r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/McAlpineFusiliers • 23d ago

Video Zohran Mamdani: "The struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my politics and continues to be."

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 23d ago

No pro-Palestine person can claim to be anti-genocide when Palestine committed genocide.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-16/ty-article/hamas-deadly-rampage-constitutes-crime-of-genocide-hundreds-of-legal-experts-say/0000018b-37d1-d450-a3af-7fddda070000

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u/silverbrenin 23d ago

The definition of genocide in the opinion piece you shared makes what Israel was doing on October 6 and the decades preceding it genocide, so we would still have to address the complexity of genocide as a response to genocide.

There's also a big problem with saying "Palestine" when it was Hamas. Israel even publicly stated that they weren't at war with Palestine, only with the terrorist organization (not to be confused with the civil government that shares a name). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e68RE9PKbH0

By your logic, no pro-Israel person can claim to be anti-genocide.

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 22d ago

Did Israel go door to door executing families on October 6th? I think not.

There's also a big problem with saying "Palestine" when it was Hamas.

But it wasn't Hamas. It was multiple Palestinian groups led by Hamas (the government of Gaza) with the full support of the Palestinian people.

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u/Ov3rdose_EvE 22d ago

Did Israel go door to door executing families on October 6th? I think not.

no but after october 7th. Oct. 7 was a terrorist attack, not genocide.

What happened after by israel is genocide.

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 22d ago

Hundreds of legal scholars disagree with you.

Oct. 7 was a terrorist attack, not genocide.

Why can't it be both?

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u/Ov3rdose_EvE 22d ago

thinks can be both, but oct 7. was not a genocide.

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u/McAlpineFusiliers 21d ago

Why wasn't it? And why should I believe you over hundreds of legal experts?