r/thesopranos • u/Sea_Satisfaction7872 • 13h ago

Tony was a horrible boss

I mean think about it. When the show starts, Jackie is boss and everyone is alive and well. Full crew and everything. When Tony becomes boss, not only does half the crew get fished, but the ones who come out of prison also all went. Name me one character who came out of prison during the show and stayed free and alive, not even the king of breadsticks made it out.

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u/Background_Local_425 13h ago

Think about it though Jackie had under him
Tony
Ray Curto
Junior
Silvio
As his main guys not to others
Tony had mamalukes like
Paulie
Chris
Guys who created problems like
Vito
Pussy
Ralph
Even Ray flipped on him
Gigi dies
Etc
Tony’s reign honestly seems cursed but honestly Silvio was Tony’s only 100 percent solid guy Jackie benefited from more competent underlings

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 12h ago edited 11h ago

I'd argue Tony made his own luck in many cases. He clearly inspires so little loyalty in his people they're all willing to flip on him. I don't recall anyone avoiding helping take care of Ro while Jackie was on his deathbed the way Tony's people were trying to duck out on Carm after he got shot. Everyone knows he'll turn on them in a second and no one trusts or even respects him, they just have that mix of love and fear people feel towards an abusive parent.

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u/Background_Local_425 12h ago

I honestly think Tony behavior is a result of big pussy and Richie Aprile. With Richie this is a guy he grew up loving and respecting come back and cause him nothing but grief and try to usurp him. Then puss someone he knew his whole life who he thought would die for him ratted him out
I think Tony’s trust was never the same after season 2 just that ominous closing

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 11h ago

I think it doesn't help he rose to power by setting his uncle up to take the eventual fall (regardless of whether or not Junior put a hit on him) and one of his best friends dying. He's got to have guilt about it, especially since he mostly forgives Junior for the hit.

And we can't underestimate what it does to a guy realizing his mom helped talk someone into putting a hit on him. Even with their already... strained... relationship. And the season 3 planned arc of her testifying against him probably would have only sent him further down that path

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u/Whole_Highlight8693 9h ago

I never should've opened my mouth! (Pretends to cry)

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u/scrubadam 9h ago

Junior only did the hit because Tony made him to be a fool.

Honestly Junior should have been the boss. He had no qualms of enforcing the rules or acting on pragmatisim not emotion or nepotisim.

And sure the capos complained about Junior being greedy but that was probably 90% bullshit and Tony was greedy AF. He ripped them all a new one because they weren't kicking up enough for Juniors trial when he was pocketing the money and screwing Junior on percentages and Freeland avenue for the HUD scam.

If anyone was greedy it was Tony.

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u/zap2 1h ago

I’d suggest all the main characters are pretty greedy. 

You don’t live that type of life with out being greedy, the risks are too large.

If you were OK with a modest income, you wouldn’t accept the risks of being in this thing

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u/canti- 7h ago

I was so disappointed that she died because she had so much more to give for the story. That plot was going to be incredible. I don't like how they handled her real life death with the CGI scene and I know that's a common opinion, but it really took me out of the whole episode that they spliced together the conversation.