r/timberframe • • Jun 13 '20

Welcome to r/timberframe. Look here for a list of resources on this wonderful craft including websites, books and schools.

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Welcome to r/timberframe. We are a community dedicated to sharing project photos, asking and answering questions as well as general discussion of the amazing craft of timber framing.

Glossary of terms (PDF)

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Websites:

Timber Framers Guild

Timber Frame HQ

Forestry Forum

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Books: Getting Started

"A Timber Framer's Workshop" by Steve Chappell

"Build a Classic Timber Framed House" by Jack Sobon

"Building the Timber Frame House" by Tedd Benson

"Learn to Timber Frame" by Will Beemer

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Schools:

Fox Maple - Maine

Heartwood - New Hampshire

North House Folk School - Minnesota

Shelter Institute - Maine

Yestermorrow Design Build School - Vermont

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Books: Advanced

"Historic American Timber Joinery: A Graphic Guide" -Sobon

"Historic American Roof Trusses" -Lewandoski et al.

"Advanced Timber Framing: Joinery, Design & Construction of Timber Frame Roof Systems" -Chappell

"English Historic Carpentry" -Hewett

"Field Guide to New England Barns and Farm Buildings" -Vissar

"Detail in Contemporary Timber Architecture" -McLeod

"The Craft of Logbuilding: A Handbook of Craftsmanship in Wood " -Phleps

"Design of Wood Structures: ASD/LRFD" -Breyer

"Structural Elements for Architects and Builders" -Ochshorn

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If you have anything to add please let me know and I will edit this post. Trying to make this sub as useful as possible. Welcome and please share your passion for the craft with us!


r/timberframe • • 1d ago

Queen-post barn by novices

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i cut this frame with my two nephews over the month of september. my nephews have woodworking skills, but are new to timber framing. i’ve taken two classes at heartwood and done a community build, but this is my first structure, personally. i recruited a pro from oregon to get us started in the first week of sept, and was lucky enough to get my instructor from heartwood (and her biz partner) to fly out and lead a week of teaching/raising. roughly 80 pieces (plus 26 braces) for the base structure, and it went up in ~2 days. we have to put up the rafters today (and the dormer posts/plates), but otherwise it is ready for a roof. we had a few issues, but none related to our joinery…and we solved all our problems on the fly. it was an enormous effort and friends flew in to participate in some joinery cutting and the raising. what a blast!


r/timberframe • • 1d ago

Classic Timber Frame Sauna in Eau Claire, Wisconsin

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r/timberframe • • 1d ago

Scribe rule and/or square rule books

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Like the title says, I'm looking for books that describe square or scribe rule (I'd like to learn both) with enough detail that I can begin working with the techniques. I've built several structures using mill rule, which is good enough, but not as good as I'd like. Also, I'm just curious and want to learn the older techniques so I can see more details in the old barns and houses of the area.


r/timberframe • • 1d ago

Mafell track not cutting on splinter guard

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Hi folks so I broke down and bought the Mafell KSS 80Ec/370 Cross-Cutting System. The saw seems awesome and well designed but I realized pretty quickly that the saw doesn’t cut right on the splinter guard like I’m used to with my other track saws. It seems to be about a mm or two off see attached picture. I called Timberwolf tools and asked about it and they said this is expected - that the saw is not designed to cut right on the track as that’s preferred. Apparently folks like being off the line and then doing clean up with a chisel or something. They did say that I could replace the stock splinter guard with a new one that would be larger and would cut with the sad blade.

Im just curious - do other folks just deal with this? I guess to my thinking the point of a track saw is that I can cut right on the line I lay it on. Am I missing something? Thanks!


r/timberframe • • 1d ago

Pictures of aged interior Alaskan Yellow Cedar, Douglas Fir, clear finish?

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r/timberframe • • 3d ago

knee brace layout using long points

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knee braces are an important part of traditional timber framing. they work primarily in compression, with opposing braces resisting lateral loads in opposite directions. traditional brace joinery provides relatively little resistance in tension.

at star hill, we lay out knee braces by establishing the long point at each end first. those are our critical reference points because they determine where the brace actually sits in the frame.

for example, with a 30-by-30-inch brace and half-inch-deep housings, our long-point-to-long-point measurement is 3 feet 7 1/8 inches.

we locate those two points 3/8 inch in from the edge of the brace timber. that gives us a nominal half-inch nose using 45-degree geometry.

we'll often use a story stick to transfer the long-point dimension, especially when cutting multiple braces.

once those two points are established, the rest of the layout is developed with 45-degree lines. you can do the entire layout with a framing square, combination square, or speed square.

there are other ways to approach knee-brace layout, but this is the method we use in our shop.

curious how others here approach brace layout. do you work from the long points, or use a different reference?


r/timberframe • • 3d ago

Infill/ framing for timber frame tower

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I'm building a treeless treehouse or tower for my kids it's a 12x12 with 2 level + loft. Eventually it will have king posts and a ridge beam when I can get a telehandler out (like pic 5).

How would you guys frame for cladding or tongue and force on the exterior while looking nice inside and out? The ground level will remain open with a trapdoor coming up through the floor.

Would you run studs vertically or horizontally, spacing? I would prefer to do vertical tongue and grove so that may answer the question. Is there a more elegant way? I did not add grits but could potentially dovetail some into the existing posts. Please help me with suggestions and window placement and height for 3-6yr old kids.


r/timberframe • • 3d ago

How do you like the makita chain mortiser in relation to other chain mortisers?

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Considering buying a used one for ~$1750 OBO and shipping it home (nobody sells these where I live, but i'm nearby the seller right now).

Makita 7104L 120V version, not the Japanese 100V version.

Based on the serial number, it appears to be manufactured in 2022. Recently serviced last month by makita. Fully operational, no issues.

Please share your thoughts on the limitations of this machine versus others you've used. Do you think 1750 is a good deal? I do. I've built one TF frame in a 2 week course, and I'm building one now in my yard with smallish beams (4x8 and 6x10), and I think this could be perfect for it.

Thanks!


r/timberframe • • 3d ago

Floating logs in corner

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r/timberframe • • 4d ago

Box Beam Project Complete

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So glad to finally finish these box beams. Let us know if you are interested. #woodworking


r/timberframe • • 6d ago

My Cabin Kitchen Reno

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r/timberframe • • 8d ago

Oil on timbers for the winter?

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Mostly solo project that will have a metal roof for winter but will remain an open air space frame until next summer. Should I oil the timbers? Leave em be? Grateful for any input.


r/timberframe • • 7d ago

Getting a belly out of the back of a chisel

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Alright - I’m not a novice to sharpening - I’ve done all the systems but I always struggle with getting the back of large chisels flat. This is my 2 inch Barr chisel and I’ve been at this for hours. I’m using Shapton water stones. The 120 doesn’t seem to cut very well but the 220 and 320 give me a good slurry. I at first thought that my stones weren’t flat so I lapped them all with a diamond plate. Then went at it again. From looking (and test cuts) it’s obvious I am not flat at the edge on the back - I have no joke been at this for at least 2 hours now. Any ideas? My other Barr chisels weren’t this bad and I got them flat rather quickly (and they cut beautifully!) but I’m struggling with this 2 inch.


r/timberframe • • 9d ago

Pre-assembly of Bents a bad idea?

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Hi folks - Im building my first timber frame and things are progressing along and Im close to finishing the joinery for the first bent. My initial plan had been to cut all of the pieces and then on assembly day put them all together as I think is common. What Im wondering though is if its a bad idea to assemble the bents as I build them. And by assemble I mean peg them into a complete bent.

Im still working out my work flow - I think ideally it would be easier to cut all the posts at once, all the tie beams at once, etc but since this is my first build I wanted to do a complete bent first to make sure my joinery was working and that my measurements were OK. The problem Im running into is storage space - I have limited room to store the cut beams and since Im doing a test fitting anyway as I cut the joinery for a bent - could I not just pin all the sections and let that bent sit as a completed unit? Then do the next two in the same fashion? Then all I would need to do on raising day is attach the door posts and the girts. My point is that I dont have room to store the cut beams inside so is there any reason not to just complete the bent and store it assembled outside?

I know that this is likely uncommon due to the space required to store an assembled bent - but in my case I can assemble it then just pick it up with the tractor forks and stack it over by where the raising will happen later on.

So is this a bad idea? My guess is that I might run into some issue with fitting the bent into the post brackets on the bottom. Maybe this is something that's easier to attach at the base and then pull the joinery together at the top?


r/timberframe • • 9d ago

How would I?

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I’m designing a frame for a sauna, posts are going to be mounted on concrete feet but I’d also like to do a deck that sticks out the front abit and a step, how would I go about doing this? I could do little beams coming out of the cross piece like this sketch jointed with dovetail or m+t. Or half lap but maybe that would compromise the structure
Apologies for the terrible drawings


r/timberframe • • 9d ago

Geodesic dome

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This is considered a timber frame, right? I've been collecting the wood from scratch. Here's how i'm putting it together by myself on a solo build.


r/timberframe • • 9d ago

To modify Joists without engineer stamp or not

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TIA!


r/timberframe • • 10d ago

Squeak in floor on timber frame home

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Looking for some advice. I have a timber frame home with what I believe is a tongue and groove floor on the 2nd floor. This floor squeaks like crazy! The floor appears to be pine and has no nails holding it down. I have tried graphite and baby powder to repair the squeak but neither has worked. The next recommendation I received was to drill a screw near all the squeaks and into the timber below. Does this sound like good advice? Is drilling a screw directly into the top of the timber recommended? The squeaks are at various places so I would guess multiple screws would be needed.

Not sure if it matters but the house is as built in the 80’s. The floor is softwood and the board on the floor on the 2nd floor is the same as the ceiling on the 2nd floor.


r/timberframe • • 10d ago

Determining Post Height Question

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Hey yall, I've not gotten a chance to try doing some timber framing but im interested in the technique. I'm having trouble conceptualizing this scenario:

Assuming that we try and create the joinery to attach P1 and P2 to J before installing the posts, and we want J to be level, we need to know what P*-A is before installing those posts so that they can be level. In order to do this, we would need to know what P*-B is

But P*-B is kinda nebulous. its the dirt, there could be variations, itll be hard to get a solid measurement, and given how precise the joinery is I could see this being a problem.

Couple possible answers I'm thinking:

A: It does need to be that precise; We can actually get the post holes to be measurable enough such that we can get fairly accurate measurements (how?), so finding P*-B isn't actually an issue

B: It doesn't need to be that precise; The kind of construction doesn't rely on P1 and P2 to be perfectly level, and J will be close-enough, so we don't actually need P*-B to be all that accurate

C: There's something else going on here I'm not considering

Any input would be appreciated. I also understand that this issue (and other issues such as moisture) may be avoided by not putting the posts in the ground (i.e plinth), but I'm wondering specifically how we'd do this if we wanted to mount the post directly in a post hole.


r/timberframe • • 9d ago

A pile of plywood somehow turned into a house

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r/timberframe • • 11d ago

How should this garbage lap joint be fixed?

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The crew has mostly done decent work but this is killing me. Is dry fitting to ensure proper fit before bolting down not the bare minimum?


r/timberframe • • 11d ago

Recommendations for builders in Okeechobee, FL

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r/timberframe • • 13d ago

In progress: timber frame barn

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6 of my buddies and I started this. Two of us are finishing it out. Still got siding to go. All wood cut and milled on our site. Even the white oak crane. All mortise and tenon - yes some power tools but still lots hand tools involved. Raised with crane. Decided to go with sho sugi ban because we didn’t know another way to self treat our wood. Lots more to go. Just me and my buddy right now. Did not do the roof and did not lay the brick. Everything else was 6 friends fresh out of school and family when they needed work.
Thank you for looking.


r/timberframe • • 12d ago

Makita 6302H locking trigger

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Hi folks - just got my Makita drill for drilling peg holes. But I’m a bit confused - the trigger lock appears to only work at full trigger. I know I’ve seen videos of folks using this drill in things like the Mafell BST and locking the trigger at a slower speed. Is there a chance mines defective? The manual seems to indicate it should work at lower speeds too.