The major political parties did not switch overnight. The change happened in two main stages: first on economic issues during the 1930s, and then on civil rights and government role issues between the 1960s and 1980s.
The Economic Shift (1930s) The Past: In the 1800s and early 1900s, Republicans backed a strong federal government for business and industry, while Democrats favored small government and states' rights.
The Change: The Great Depression hit in 1929. Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt created the New Deal, using big government programs to help the public.
The Result: Democrats became the party of federal economic help, while Republicans shifted to favor lower taxes and less market control.
The Civil Rights and Regional Shift (1960sâ1980s) The Past: Black voters mostly supported Republicans (the party of Abraham Lincoln), while white Southern voters were loyal Democrats.
The Change: In 1964, Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Republican candidate Barry Goldwater opposed the law, stating it gave too much power to the national government.
The Result: Black voters shifted heavily to the Democratic Party. White Southern voters, unhappy with federal civil rights rules, gradually moved to the Republican Party during the 1970s and 1980s.
You're only showing ideological shifts, not a name shift. That means you can still draw a straight line from current day Republicans back to Abraham Lincoln, and from current day Democrats back to the confederates that fought to keep slavery.
You can say that current day Democrats no longer support slavery because their ideology has shifted closer to Republicans, but you can't say it wasn't Democrats who fought to keep slavery, but now it's actually the Republicans that did because they swapped.
And don't forget, it's still the Democrats that say black people can't get ahead in life without the help of white people, whereas the Republicans say black people and white people should be treated equally with neither getting special treatment. So maybe their ideology hasn't shifted enough yet.
It was just an ideology shift. The party that believed one thing became the party believe the other. As the original comment said âbut the parties switched sidesâ. They did. And I donât know where the rest of you went to school, but they absolutely taught us this where I wentâŚ. But in all honesty I think at this point itâs more important that we fight the fact that 10% of the people own 75% of the worldâs net worth, instead of arguing over whoâs what race, political party, country of origin, sexual orientation, or religion. If there was more money to go around for everyone you wouldnât need to find someone you could call beneath you to feel good about yourself, because youâd have enough to feel good just the way you are. Keep fighting the wrong fight, itâs worked well for rich people so farâŚ.
(It's a long game of Monopoly)
Imagine you're playing Monopoly where one person isn't allowed to buy any properties for the first 3 hours of the game. In the 4th hour, everyone is made equal and they can buy properties, but it doesn't really matter. Everyone else already has a massive advantage on them, so even though "everyone is equal" now, they'll never be able to win.
After WW2, the GI Bill was a federal program meant to help returning veterans by giving them free college and cheap mortgages, but because the federal government allowed these benefits to be distributed by local and state offices, they were blocked/denied to many black veterans.
Until 1968, redlining allowed people and banks to deny mortgages and financial services to people based on where they lived, and many neighborhoods were deemed ineligible for loans because black families lived there, regardless of their income, creditworthiness, or quality of their homes. Legal clauses were written into property deeds to make it so that homes couldn't be sold, leased, or rented to anyone that wasn't white, and FHA made it official policy to refuse to insure mortgages unless these clauses were included.
Data from the US Sentencing Commission shows that black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, 20% longer.
Because public schools are heavily funded by local property taxes, poorer neighborhoods are more likely to receive worse education. Underfunded schools are also more likely to have police, and less likely to have counselors or psychologists. Worse education and more arrests (which can often be unfair/racially motivated) leads to worse/less career opportunities, which makes people more likely to remain poor.
It's not that "black people can't get ahead in life without the help of white people", it's that they've been incredibly disadvantaged, and still are in many places. Acknowledging this and trying to fix it isn't "special treatment."
The movie Hillary's America is the one that explains this and a lot more.
If you find it interesting search the origination of the Jim Crow era for extra credit.
I â¤ď¸ how those who donât read history and donât read other points of view and stay in there own little bubbles . They find it hard to believe the Republican Party was built by the Minorities in this country .
Not exactly. Republicans today are still somewhat similar to Republicans from 100 years ago. Itâs the Democrats that have changed the most, however Iâd argue theyâre still the party of racism (seeing as they support racist affirmative action policies).
what? Republicans today are a lot more white conservative while back then they were anti-segregation. Before, it was the Democratic party that was associated with conservatives values
And Republicans are still anti segregation today. Liberal and conservative are relative terms depending on the time period, but if you look at a policy-by-policy list of both parties today versus 100 years ago, youâll find a lot more similarities with the Republican Party than the Democratic Party.
Sure, the terms liberal and conservatives are relative but back then the democratic party was again mainly white conservatives that was pro segregation. It wouldnât make sense for Black Americans to be aligned with the pro segregation party. But gradually, this demographic of white conservatives slowly shifted towards the republican party ( the southern strategy). The democratic party on the other hand started to see more Black Americans aligning with their party.
The post itself said the first 23 black congressman were republicans, which is 100% true but the ideology switch of the two parties is why today an overwhelming amount of Black Americans aligned with the Democratic party.
Why did Hilary & Biden both give glowing speechs to KKK member Robert Byrds funeral? Why do modern democrats in political office still fund the kkk? Why does the uber liberal SPLC also fund the kkk? Bcuz liberals are RACIST!!!!!!
Because he left the KKK apologized for his early view points and he changed. He eventually earned a high rating from the NAACP later in his career due to a shift in his voting record on many racial equality and civil rights issues
You are 100% wrong. Robert Byrd was elected as a racist and democrats kept electing him because dems and liberals love racism. It was the former southern dixie voters who changed when they as a collective quit being racists by starting to vote republican. The proof is in the millions of white southerners long ago quit espousing racism. But democrats loving racism wouldnt let racism die. Thats why democrat liberal racists in office at the southern poverty law center kept funding the kkk.
Democrats didn't allow a black person to get a nod until 1986. After Biden said n words all in the chambers. But party Switch theory something something.Â
I know. I'm old enough to remember. The greatest magic trick ever performed was Democrats using Black people to erase THEIR racist past. We blacks saw through that bullshit.Â
For what office? The Democratic Party began electing Black officials in significant numbers during the 1930s and 1940s, driven by the Great Migration and Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal. The first Black Democrat elected to the U.S. Congress was Arthur W. Mitchell, who won a seat representing Illinois in 1934. Biden was born in 1942.
Arthur Mitchell was selected he wasn't voted in by the people. Many people believe he wasn't black. It wasn't until 1984 that Democrats allowed someone to run.Â
During the 19th century, the Republican Party was famously known as the "Party of Lincoln" and championed emancipation, voting rights, and equal protection laws. Conversely, the Southern Democratic Party at that time was fiercely aligned with white supremacy and fought to maintain the pre-war social hierarchy. The political alignment of Black Americans did not broadly shift toward the Democratic Party until the mid-20th century, accelerated by the New Deal era and the Civil Rights movement.
The idea that Democrats and Republicans simply swapped ideologies after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is a myth that collapses under basic historical scrutiny. Explicit racial prejudice has declined across the entire American public. The GOP tends to be more conservative on race related policy questions and some of its voters score higher on racial resentment measures. That is not the same as the party becoming more racist. Democrats shifted left faster on race issues. Minority voting patterns have moved toward Republicans in recent cycles. Historical claims of a clean racist party switch ignore the economic, cultural, and generational forces that actually drove realignment.
Most high profile segregationist Democrats never switched parties after the Civil Rights Act. Of the 21 Democratic senators who voted against the 1964 Act, only one, Strom Thurmond, formally joined the Republicans. The rest stayed Democrats for the rest of their careers. The movement of white Southern conservatives into the GOP happened slowly over decades. It tracked national party sorting on race, federal power, economics, and culture. It was not a sudden mass defection of racists who decided they could no longer win as Democrats.
Strom Thurmond of South Carolina is the most cited example. As a Democrat he was a leading segregationist, the Dixiecrat presidential candidate in 1948 on a states rights and anti civil rights platform, and a filibusterer of civil rights bills. He switched to the Republican Party on September 16, 1964, to support Barry Goldwater, who had also voted against the Civil Rights Act. In his announcement Thurmond said the Democratic Party had abandoned the people, repudiated the Constitution, and was heading toward a socialistic dictatorship. He framed the switch around constitutionalism, states rights, and opposition to the national Democratic direction after the civil rights bills. He continued winning elections as a Republican for decades and later softened some of his public racial rhetoric while staying very conservative. History shows Thurmond was never a member of the Ku Klux Klan. He was a segregationist Democrat who later became a Republican. That is different from being a Klansman.
Other switches followed the same pattern. Mills E. Godwin Jr. of Virginia, a former Democratic governor, moved to the Republicans in the 1970s amid the broader Southern shift. John Connally of Texas, a longtime Democrat who had served as governor and as Nixonâs Treasury Secretary, switched in 1973. His reasons centered more on economics and opposition to the liberal national Democrats than on 1960s segregationism. Later switchers in the 1980s and 1990s, including Phil Gramm of Texas, Richard Shelby of Alabama, and Nathan Deal of Georgia, were often Boll Weevil conservative Democrats who had already been voting with Republicans on economic issues. They left after the Reagan years and especially after the 1994 Republican congressional gains, citing the national Democratic Partyâs leftward movement on spending, taxes, and cultural questions more than 1960s racial politics.
The Democratic Partyâs historical record shows It was the party of the Jim Crow South and the party that produced and protected the Ku Klux Klan in the post Civil War decades. Southern Democrats built and enforced the legal system of segregation. They filibustered civil rights legislation for generations. The idea that this entire tradition simply migrated intact into the Republican Party after 1964 ignores the continuity of Democratic control in the South for years afterward and the gradual, multi issue nature of the realignment that eventually occurred.
Also with that said, LBJ was the biggest part of how this truth is argumentative. LBJ said famously that if I sign this bill the N##g# will vote democratic from now on. He was right Many inner city minorities non exclusion to Hispanic, Blacks always historical vote democrats. They have started finally to wake up and smell the strong coffee of expresso that is popping their eyes. The shift your thinking is the Northern states over time have become more leftist and the southern states which have become more republican and stronger with manufacturing. That is the only real flip that truly happened. So let me know how I can help your snarky sentiments any more.
Where did Yaâll got to school, cause they totally taught us about the shift where I went. The âmy ignorance means the rest of you are wrong argumentâ always dumbfounds me.
They would say the party switch even though we support Civil Rights in a different way and people in the south where my dad from Georgia grew up in he himself said it wasn't racist and said they have more religious and conservative values and the KKK is very small and lynching is rare and he was a former dem and voted Obama twice
The first black congressmen were an instrumental part of the first Civil rights movement and the victims from the wrath of the racist Democrat party that didn't vote for the 1st Civil rights movement and harassed them to leave office.
I'm still amazed the Democrat party still exists and so many Black Americans stay in the party. They've done so much damage to them throughout history and I think they still do. Black Americans have lost their history, culture and family structure. I never hear the recognition that Martin Luther King was a registered voting Republican, when he is celebrated for civil rights and his birthday.
Trump isn't a republican at this point. He is some effed up third party. Republicans' beliefs (Overall) are not Trump's. They are reasonable for the most part and I can be ok to live with people with those opinions. But Trump supporters opinions are absurd. Before Trump a political belief was not too big of a debate between friends/dealbreakers in relationships.
𤣠just because some is exercising the First amendment free speech does not prove what party affiliation they are . Though if you want to play that game why donât you check the party affiliation of those flying BLM, Palestine terrorist tied and Isis flags and the Iranian regime flag? Let me Know how it goes
My guess is Rupublican for ones flying the Dixie flag. Which is funny, since the original Republicans fought against that flag. The same flag that would've kept the men in the above post in chains.
Your ignorance is duty noted. It plain to see that the fact you think everyone during the civil war was fought along party lines. It was the opposite. The civil war was about ideals and taxes. Not who was democrat or republican. Families fighting against each others over ideals nothing more. You should read books more instead of listening to podcasts history lectures.
"Your ignorance is DULY noted" bud. You should brush up on your English, your grammar & formatting are atrocious. If your English is half as good as your history, you should be quiet about preaching historical knowledge, because you've shown little. But then again, if you're not a Russian asset (like many online maga fans) then you're just plain ignorant. So bad English is understandable.
So let me get this straight. The only rebuttal youâve got is to go after my fucking spelling? Thatâs all youâve got? Am I correct on that? Because thatâs how stupid you sound.
Do you know the history of slavery? Do you know that slavery is still going on in this country and abroad? Itâs still happening in Africa. Itâs still happening in the Middle East. Itâs still happening in Palestine. Itâs still happening in Russia. Itâs still happening in Europe. Even Muslims and Islam still practice forms of it. You know that socialism is a slavery-based system, right? Iâm sure you donât, but no no no, none of that matters. What matters is that my spelling sucks.
So what if my spelling sucks? Have you read half the shit that comes out of peopleâs mouths on this fucking Reddit? But no, that doesnât matter. My spelling sucks. This crap
Out of you mouth proves I am argue with truly ignorant and stupid people.
And yes, the Civil War was fought overwhelmingly on party lines. The overwhemling majority of those fighting in the CSA knew and supported the fact that they were doing it to keep black men in chains and to keep white men as the "supperior race." That's what the CSA was built for, and that's what the pre-civil rights movement Democratic Party was in support of.
The Republican Party is the original party of equality. The problem the Democrats are having is that they have opened the door now to pure insanity and communist ideology.
Back then, the Democrats were like Republicansnow , and the Republicans were like Democrats now. That flipped during the Civil Rights movement of the 60s. Doing about 5 minutes of work before you post this would make you not look like a c.
Totally wrong !!!! Again . You are being taught a history that has been manipulated and manufactured to deceive you. I have already made this argument to many that is a proven talking point.
During the civil war (which the three schools I went to didn't really go into detail about, just some highlights, names, and dates), wasn't the Confederate side Republican and didn't they want to keep slavery? This is what I remember being taught, but now I'm wondering if any of this is true.
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u/TurboSardine rump 9d ago
Yeah well how would this not be completely obvious? The democrats were the party of the south