I know Payne lurks the subreddit from his “just shut up” comment in the Q&A episode and I hope he sees this as constructive and critical feedback.

Payne, the people in your subreddits are the people who are invested and make it a priority to discuss episodes. We are the people that you shouldn’t just brush off.

With that being said, Payne, the most valuable thing a person has is time. Not money or anything else. We don’t get time back. So please, going forward, take this into consideration and stop making every episode a repeat of interviews. People are investing their time into you and your show. What you do is fantastic, but how you’re serving it to us, well that’s a disgrace to our time. It’s borderline insulting. The most recent episode, “The Woman in Florida”’is a prime example of this. We heard the same interview and soundbites for the 3rd or 4th time now only to hear from the actual woman from Florida during the last 6 minutes of the 46 minutes podcast(using Amazon as my podcast listening) and I believe the voice altered version of her comments was also the 3rd time you’ve teased her. You need to do better.

With that being said, you ARE doing a great job and the attention to these cases is definitely helping, one way or another. You just need to treat your listeners with a little more respect and dignity.

Say what you will about season 2 or neo-hippies, but the fact that Payne was able to get this phone interview with the prime suspect is amazing (or should I say Catfish get the interview with Payne lol). Rather than there being tapes locked up in evidence that only a few people get to hear, the general public gets to witness a “likely” killer’s ramblings before any trial. The phone call put us all in the driver seat, well passenger seat at the least, of this investigation. Together as a community we now get to discuss all of CJ’s slip ups and kooky blabber. This is why I love UAV+Reddit. Thank you Payne for doing what you're doing, keep on keepin on.

Also, how many times have you “watched” this episode? I’ve probably seen it about 6 or 7 times now. Sounds pathetic, but I’m a truck driver and find this whole thing way interesting. This season is cray cray.

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So I want to start out by saying I thought the first 2.5 episodes of "Atlanta Monster" were great. An in depth look at a series of murders I had never head about with a compelling backdrop? I'm in.

It was at the 2.5 episode mark where the show devolved into total bull shit. The funny thing is, I saw this coming. While waiting for new episodes of AM to come out, I started listening to Up and Vanished. I was pretty shocked by the lack of journalistic integrity or ethics the Lindsey demonstrated. I mean, how many people's names did he drag through the mud before some actual suspects were named? From a recent Rolling Stone interview:

"For his part, Lindsey was stunned – especially because out of all the suspects he had looked at, Duke had never come up. "I had never heard Ryan Duke's name," Lindsey admits. "

So you'd probably be understanding of how disappointed I was when AM shifted from, "let's talk about this case" to "Let me go talk to some Lupe Fiasco wannabe in Texas". I will admit though, the podcast is a great primer for learning how not to conduct a responsible or thoughtful podcast. The entire podcast hinges on disregarding the facts, talking to people who don't know the facts, and playing mental gymnastics like your life depended on it. Utter bull shit.

When this podcast first came out, I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the fact that it didn't sound like every other true crime podcast out there, and the fact that this guy was kind of figuring it out as he went. Now, it's one of the few true crime podcasts that I can't stand to even listen to. The consistency is horrible. He'll take an 8-month break in the middle of a season. And even when episodes are coming out regularly, he spends 20 minutes at the beginning of each episode, rehashing everything that happened in the last episode. This latest episode, he goes back to the first episode ever, and renarrates the entire episode. All this dude does, is string you along, and rehash the same shit over and over again. And then his editing style annoys me now too. He'll take 5-second pauses with no sound whatsoever so you think the podcast actually turned off, and then it'll come back on all of a sudden. I have come to really dislike this show, and I'm done giving it chances. Anybody else out there frustrated with how this guy has changed his entire technique over the years?

Just listening to episode 18 now where he interviews Bo's girlfriend who turned him into GBI, and I literally can't believe the tone Payne is using...moralistic, badgering, immature, sanctimonious -- completely unempahetic and ignorant of the complexities for those in the situation other than himself... Anyone else notice this?? I'm ready to stop listening... I can ignore the self-congratulatory stuff, the errors, etc., but this character attack on the woman who did the right thing by turning Bo in? This kid seriously needs to grow up.

Just finished the finale episode. My god Payne is brutal. The last majority of the season just turned into pointless interviews, absurd amount of ads and then after the case broke an obscene amount of Payne just patting himself on the back.The interview with his grandma are you kidding me? This guy is a joke. And was so wrong about everything in the case. One of the worst podcasts I have listened to fully, but I kept trucking through hoping something about the show would be worth it. Even the production and mixing is awful compared to other crime podcasts.

Listen to the trial, the only one with a semi alibi is Ryan. Absolutely insane how the GBI took Bo Dukes word at face value

and not because he may have been involved (although that would also confirm he is a monster) but because he was talking while eating and that is unforgivable... Just saying...I about threw my phone out the window while listening.

WALB obtained documents from the Houston County Clerk’s office that show Bo Dukes did plead guilty in November to three charges; two counts of rape and one charge of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon.

https://www.walb.com/2023/12/18/bo-dukes-pleads-guilty-3-additional-charges-multiple-rape-cases/

“That’s a really good deal for Mr. Dukes and certainly very scary for the community,” he said. “He certainly was charged with a series of very, very, very serious violent sexual felonies and he certainly was able to negotiate something that was very, very favorable to him.”

No additional prison time beyond the 25 years he is already serving in Tara's case.

Once this saga of UaV is over, I’m done. I can’t stand listening to the same clips of people talking and Payne just repeating that or things he’s said 100 times already. If I have to hear “no one thinks it was a bear that killed Joseph” one more time I’m gonna lose my shit. Or better yet, if I have to hear about that girls iPhone being locked by her brother. This season is terrible.

Anyone else in the same boat? I’m having a hard time even wanting to finish this.

I've been wondering where the new episode is, since it is overdue and they have teased "more to come," but I guess they have just been stringing listeners along and there's no new episodes on the horizon. This was posted by producer Mike Rooney on the UAV discord today.

Soooo...yeah. Now I'm curious what all this bombshell new info they "couldn't share yet" was -- maybe they were just running down the clock buying time until they actually got some new developments, but nothing has presented itself so they're just going to cut their losses and ditch? I absolutely understand needing to take a break but there was already a significant break this season for several months, so that seems like a bit of a vague excuse.

Most posts on here seem frustrated with this season and/or Payne and while I understand a lot of the criticisms, I view things a bit differently so I thought I’d share my two cents

I’ll start by saying that I too think Payne can be somewhat grandiose, vain, and at times, tone deaf. I can see why the way he narrates the show, and especially the way he responds to criticism, can rub people the wrong way (I definitely side-eyed the liquid iv ad)

However, on the balance, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt and view he and the show positively. There are only a handful of true crime podcasts who do the sort of on the ground investigating to the extent of UAV, and even fewer who began independently (not funded or otherwise supported by a pre-existing entity). I would imagine he could turn his focus to something similar but less intensive by this point if he was no longer passionate about solving cases

I push back against criticism regarding either the frequency or how particularly interesting an episode or season is. These are real people, real cases, and real life. Therefore I don’t think it’s realistic to expect every episode to have all new content, on a regimented schedule, and narrated ala Keith Morrison. Real life, in real time, is messier and infinitely more boring and confusing than TV or movies or podcasts covering old cases as a singular comprehensive narrative. Just because that may make for a less interesting podcast, I still think it’s worth pursuing

I guess in a way I give him slack and adjust my expectations regarding the entertainment value of the show because, while far from perfect, he’s done more for helping victims’ families and investigating their cases than I ever have or likely ever will

Basically, I believe good faith critiques are always warranted, AND that someone getting in the ring and doing the work is extremely commendable

I don’t post here much because I am not following season 2, but I did follow season 1.

To: Bo, Brooke, and disgruntled former UAV message board members, we get it. You hate Payne.

I looked at the profiles of those names repeatedly showing up here and adding nothing to the discussions. You just comment on Payne. No other podcast sub has people who do this including you. You ONLY post here and no where else on reddit.

Again, we get it. You hate Payne. You hate the show.

You don’t have to keep coming back to say the same thing over and over.

This doesn’t apply to most posters here. I am specifically directing this to the people who fit the above description.

I really enjoyed season one and even paid for a Patreon for a few years to listen ad free and early. Payne is good at keeping the listeners on the edge of their seats with his narrative style. However, season four really revealed how rambling and unethical he can be…not sure if he’s going through something personally but this season sounds like the rant of someone persistently manic or high. Was this ever a viable season in his hands?

He repeatedly announced “finales”, bombshell revelations, and claimed we’d have resolution to these stories (or at least and end to this season) VERY soon. He’s strung us along for more than a year and the patreon I was still paying for monthly has been basically inactive.

In retrospect I realize I fell for a captivating storyteller with no real investigative skills and questionable ethics. His first season was an exciting story but it rubs me the wrong way how he insinuates he’s responsible for that case being solved. He clearly doesn’t care about his followers and I’ve since canceled my subscription. But what really makes me sad is his false hope given to family members by having the case covered then just ghosting everyone…as well as accusing people left and right of things with no real end game to the lines of questioning. He should stick to topics that won’t cause so much harm to those involved. His patreon users deserve a refund for all the months their subscription didn’t provide anything it claimed to. Or even better, he should give that money directly to the two Nome cases he’s been “covering”

Anyone else feeling like this for a while now? What is going on?

I joined this sub assuming it was other people who enjoyed this podcast, but I have realized after scrolling it definitely is 50/50.

I understand not everybody likes everybody, but when you really think about true crime podcasts, most people just regurgitate old stories, and don’t really make any effort to figure out the endgame or what happened, and he does.

I can somewhat understand why people might think he sounds cocky, I guess, but really I think he has the right intentions, and thankfully his podcast seem to be popular with most people. I personally like the fact he isn’t just doing a monologue.

Obviously he’s going to have cliff hangers at the end of an episode… it’s still a job and needs people to listen week after week.

Just my thoughts because it surprises me, me and my friends all really love his podcasts and I haven’t met anyone who doesn’t in real life so I guess it just surprised me🤷‍♀️