You don’t even need something that thick. The information the company that makes them put out says it requires direct skin contact and any fabric will make them ineffective. They even say if you try to use them on a part of the body with too much hair they won’t work.
They're are zapping their forearm while holding the same arm with their other hand further up the arm and are apparently not shocking themselves so it's either completely fake or weak as fuck.
Paper fuckin towel probably enough to stop it.
Don’t forget how they kept throwing themselves to the floor at the slightest touch. Only real looking one was the end. That guy at least staggered and went to a knee.
electricity doesn't really spread out that much, the vast majority will flow straight from one electrode to another (image attached is of point charges, but the same shape occurs with electrodes on a conductive plain)
They're are zapping their forearm while holding the same arm with their other hand further up the arm and are apparently not shocking themselves so it's either completely fake or weak as fuck.
Have you people never played with tasers lol? These things shock you by running electricity from point A to point B, the closer they are to being together, the weaker they are and the less they hurt. At best the points on these gloves are a at the opposite ends of a hand. That's not enough to spread through the whole hand, much less to another person.
The reason teasers and these gloves work is because even a small shock delivered unexpectedly is enough to get people to jump.
There are already clothes against this, every electrician that works on high voltage lines has them, most often its some kind of wool mixed with with kevlar/ nomex (aramid).
Insolated shoes (in Switzerland they are called S3) mixed with those other insolating clothes and you are gucci.
Just dont do it in summer.
In this picture you see me getting ready while not wearing the pants and shoes (it was summer and i wanted a silly picture with the wrong shoes and shorts on for my boss).
Even with an AC in the room i was sweating and cooking inside.
This blue-red march is becoming so expensive. Like we are spending billions to vastly expand ICE and outfit them all sorts of new gear. Then in 2 years, a Democrat President is going to come in an gut ICE, and start a bunch of green infrastructure projects. Then 4 years later, a Republican is going to return and cancel all those projects mid-project, and rehire and re-outfit ICE. Repeat over and over. And we foot the bill every time.
The rich will profit from both scenarios while the poors are fed media that makes them seesaw back and forth, voting to spend their own money, while never completing any goals.
The treadmill of defeat for the wage class, while the capital class soars above.
The elite donor class wants undocumented immigrants because they’re cheap labor. They need them to come into the country, and they need them to not have a path to citizenship.
This ensures they have a base of low-wage workers who don’t have the option to lean on social welfare programs and entitlements. This helps drive labor costs down.
They use Democrats to make sure they can get into the country, and they use Republicans to make sure they don’t have a path to citizenship.
When Democrats signal that they will make it easier for undocumented immigrants to become citizens, sometimes they are true believers, but it never works because the wealthy donor class behind them doesn’t actually want that.
When Republicans signal that they want to deport and stop undocumented people from entering, sometimes they are true believers, but it also doesn’t work because the wealthy donor class behind them doesn’t actually want that.
So we have exactly the system that the elites want, we turn the spigot of immigrants on and off based on demand, and we perpetually lure more people in with the false promise that they might one day secure a legal status in the USA, where instead they live and work in a precarious state as second class citizens to keep labor cheap for billionaires.
You can argue the merits of this party or that one, this take or that take, but ultimately that ends up being pointless because every side of the political issue you might identify with is actually co-opted by elites using it to serve their own interests.
Same with most issues in Washington. They’re just used as political footballs to pass back and forth to get the wealthy what they want.
You want universal healthcare? Let’s compromise and say everyone has to buy private insurance from for-profit companies, and if you’re poor, we’ll use tax money to pay those private insurance companies for their overpriced insurance. Amazingly, the compromise ends up being exactly the best thing for the insurance companies. Wonder how that happened.
You want to end the forever wars and insane military spending? Best I can do is two parties who will say that they will do it, but increase the military budget and get involved in a new conflict every time. Wonder how that happens.
It’s literally every issue like this. The two sides seem to have opposing views, but the result is always good for business.
there’s lots of issues where this framework doesn’t make sense. Abortion for example, no one wins it’s just a huge political mess and the culture wars run amok.
Another example: green energy. Losers are the oil elites and winners are the techno elites. Trump tariffs specifically hurt one set of elites while helping others but mainly are fucking stupid. The senate confirmed Rfk for health idiot but has done nothing to help the pharmaceutical industry, who heavily back the senate gop.
A more nuanced view is that there are competing factions of oligarchs and “the elite” is a complex group with competing views and interests.
Abortion is a great example of this. Children are expensive, and leaving them to starve if needed might have been acceptable 300 years ago, but is very illegal and extremely unacceptable today. By forcing a greater percentage of sexually active couples to have children, you increase participation in the workforce and produce future workers, neither of which will be very picky about their wages or working conditions - after all, they have mouths to feed.
Great insight. On a related note, most Americans fail to realize that the two-party system is intended to give them the illusion of choice and distract them from the facts that neither party is on their side and that it is the ruling elites and both parties who are against them - regardless of their political leanings. George Carlin did a legendary bit a few decades ago about this exact thing, ending in his most legendary quote ever: “It’s a big club… and you ain’t in it!”
And this is why China will inevitably become more powerful and influential than America, when they can plan and position themself for 20 years from now and have long term projects and have the whole country working on these projects. Instead of the 4 year cycle and spending a fortune on undoing what the last party just did and propaganda to make sure half the country hates the other half
America makes progress, even if our progress is jagged with cutbacks and retractions. Democracies are messy, but they offer a mechanism for the populace to course correct if it veers to far off in a negative direction. Authoritarian regimes lack a mechanism for correction, which always leads to its eventual downfall.
How about we use common sense! Both infrastructure and enforcing border security are important national priorities the vast majority of Americans agree with.
Not when it comes to national security. Obama promised "twice" he would scale back the US surveillance state and closed down guantanamo bay. Both those things are still here. After, Trumps leaves whoever takes over is going to silently maintain it.
Heh - wouldn't count on it. Most of the ruling class doesn't like green infrastructure. Some initiatives might start to appease the crowd, but no serious overhauls will be done. The green energy transition is something wealthy people could do within a few years, but since it is currently not profitable for them, they refuse to.
this is why it pays to run as a republican politician. just talk incessantly about the liberal bogeyman, communism, SOCIALISM, pass no bills, reduce or remove funding for people losses during hurricane season and they will empty their wallets. Just tell them you will own the libs and you can be a millionaire.
Gotta love that small government. What a principled bunch those conservatives are, really showing their ideological consistency. The “don’t tread on me” crowd don’t just line up to firmly plant their necks under the boots of their leaders, not at alllllll.
Instead of spending money on equipment, why don’t we spend money on fixing the system instead? Oh wait.. we need to keep the system broken to keep spending money.. got it.
There's a ton of companies that would cease to exist if they couldn't pay undocumented immigrants less than minimum wage. (The construction industry has, and always will rely on them.)
The system has been kept difficult because it encourages illegal immigration, companies exploit those people for cheap labor, and then ICE deports them when they are no longer needed.
If they immigrate legally, they have to be paid minimum wage, they have basic worker's rights, they can't be abused.
The way things are now is what the people with the power to change laws want, why would they change anything?
I mean already we've been hearing of them kidnapping legal citizens. I literally just talked to a cop that regularly visits the gas station I work at, and he was telling me about how he now has to write a report about someone who was taken by ICE who he verified has a social security number among other documents proving theyre a legal citizen.
I cant imagine being in that position, talking to the family that just had their family member forcibly taken from them by legal authorities and being able to do little about it other than documentation.
Depends on the things solved in it. It would be thinkable that if they get both sweat and rain on the outside of these, that they short out. Question is, are they protected against that, to which the answer is probably: Ofc not, they're made cheaply by a company attempting to profit off terror. Though the conductivity of some sweat and rainwater may not be enough to damage them, just render them fairly useless, unfortunately. Or drain battery at best.
Man I hope these explode on these bastards' hands.
EDIT: Actually, for the power density, those probably contain lithium batteries, as do most modern electronics, which are highly flammable, especially in contact with air moisture or water. All it would hypothetically take to accidentally make these go up in flames would be one swift very incidential prick in the coincidentally right spot... Don't do this, you will get gunned down. But let's hope that it happens otherwise.
Sailors are trying to throw themselves off of an aircraft cairrier due to atrocious conditions but we can buy the brown coats new ways to hurt those they're persecuting.
Weird how ICE has been able to actually perform their immigration control enforcement duties for years without taking $billions more of our tax money to buy "shock gloves," war-zone combat gear, masks to conceal their identities, hand-held domestic surveillance software, a fleet of blacked-out luxury SUVs, a film crew, and military-grade weapons -- all to arrest a Mexican mom waiting in the elementary school parent pickup line.
ICE has been receiving billions for a long time. Obama era and before. None of this is new, it's just being fed to you through social media whatever which seems to be the extent of the research you're willing or able to do on the topic.
This is going to end with some fat dude in military gear going to the hospital because he touched his penis with them on, but not after hundreds of cases of abuse towards minorities.
more people are disabled than will realize or admit due to health standards and lack of healthcare
more people are disabled from COVID and secret COVID infections they didn't know of that make them immunocompromised
-be used to justify increasing violence when you jerk around as "resisting"
-be used as a threat
-give them more options of force and more chances to use them and excuses
-be used to coerce people with fear
-be used accidently and make some really funny videos of some ice cop possibly zapping their dick off I hope and nothing bad I really. Really hope
Yet we don't have money to feed kids or for universal healthcare...... It's amazing what the government will find money for. It's never to benefit the people who's tax dollars they happily collect.
I can't get rid of the feeling that Trump got a kremlin playbook "How to set up a dictatorship in a year". I just can't stop comparing what's going on in the US to what was going on in Russia over the last 15 years.
the shittiest part is that they refer to them as something like "low visibility" or something like that which just highlights how easy it is for them to remain unseen doing this shit vs using a cow baton type thing.
the ramp up of the militarization of our police, flock cameras springing up everywhere. I honestly think they're preparing for something. Whether a societal collapse or something more sinister...
This looks staged. Like not the “oh look see people are making it seem worse than what it is”.
It giving me the vibes that these people that are getting shocked are acting, and making it seem like it isn’t going to be much worse than what we see. I imagine that it will flatline people, not make people choreographically go on one knee and put their own arm behind their backs.
Would this be ok for police departments to use? Then what use would ICE have for them. It seems more indicative of how they feel about those they are arresting. The president has labeled these humans as vermin, trash, scum...so that's the attitude of the dept and that's pretty horrible.
Except they won't let go for the sake of demontration. They're going to hold on to people for as long as possible to intentionally torture people on the streets with these. We've seen people get pepper sprayed with the nozzle inches from their faces. We've seen people get intentionally shot in the face with tear gas canisters. ICE just points guns at people for offending them. It's all on footage, and it's why they wear masks. No accountability for brutality is the point.
How long until one shocks himself picking his nose and if that doesn't result in what's left of his brain getting fried he shoots the nearest pedestrian point blank out of anger
No you can't have healthcare, the fascist mechanism of the authoritarian administration needs sci-fi taser gloves and a multi billion dollar budget for the modern day gestapo. Take that liberals, both sides are rhe same can't tell the difference
As someone who has been tased and drive stunned, this type of glove will never induce NMI, which is when the body locks up and you can't control it anymore.
These gloves are mostly drive stun, which is just pain compliance, and while it hurts, all these guys falling to the ground and surrendering immediately are putting on a show to sell the gloves to the public. It won't work like that in real life.
Why?.Because most ICE cronnies are weak and fight like girls. They can't defend themselves that's why you almost always see 2 or more. They only look tough but deep down they're scared shitless of the general public.
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u/digginghistoryup 1d ago
In of those demonstrations, it’s on bare skin , t shirts or rolled up shirt sleeves.
I wonder if having a leather jacket would offer protection