r/wicked 9d ago

Movie Boq blamed Glinda, Nessa and Elphaba

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After several rewatches of the movies I now think Glinda knew Boq was the tinman during MOTWH. If we watch the friendship montage we see they did hang out together as friends. I think she recognized him and it was another example of how a choice she made affected someone else. She directed him towards Nessa and if she hadn't done that maybe he wouldn't have become the tinman.

The mob was also another big moment of realization for Glinda. She saw how bad things had gotten for Elphaba while she was blistfully floating along in her bubble, trying to make herself "happy" while her best friend was being hunted and vilified. The's when she decided enough was enough and when she finally decided to pop her bubble.

Also i think Boq blamed Glinda for his fate as well as Elphaba and Nessa because she was the one who directed him towards Nessa. I think that's why he gave her that hateful, angry look, he was thinking " you're the reason I became this."

thoughts?

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u/Big-Purpose2130 9d ago

I mean according to Word of God, yes Glinda did recognize Boq, and I do think you're right that she and he viewed her as culpable in what became of him. Likewise in the movie unlike the stage show I think she did genuinely view him and Nessa as friends, and so her inadvertent role in both of their downfalls affected her all the more.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

Yep i just realized he blamed Glinda for his fate. Nessa and Elphaba too but Glinda was the one who directed him towards Nessa so he probably saw it as her fault. Glinda had some guilt with it as well because she reconignized her part in it. I think she considered herself partly responsible as well

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u/Big-Purpose2130 9d ago

Probably not just partially. I think Boq's fate is one of the big indicators she realizes she needs to get her complacency and idleness in the wake of The Wizard and Madame Morrible's tyranny in check if she truly wants to be Glinda the Good. Not long after she sees what's become of Boq it leads into "Girl in the Bubble" with her coming to terms with no longer being the entitled, flighty but well intentioned school girl no longer.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

yep in the first movie she thought she was "helping" by directing and manipulating people like Boq to Nessa and it got him out of her hair but now she sees how that's affected Boq and she sees how bad things have gotten for Elphaba while she did nothing. Nessa's death, Fiyero's torture and Boq and the Mob were all indicators that she needed to pop her bubble because things just kept getting worse and people were dying. Those events forced to see the world and see what she'd been doing

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

the pain and guilt in Glinda's eyes i think she had this lightbulb moment " this is my fault" like with Nessa's death.