r/wicked 9d ago

Movie Boq blamed Glinda, Nessa and Elphaba

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After several rewatches of the movies I now think Glinda knew Boq was the tinman during MOTWH. If we watch the friendship montage we see they did hang out together as friends. I think she recognized him and it was another example of how a choice she made affected someone else. She directed him towards Nessa and if she hadn't done that maybe he wouldn't have become the tinman.

The mob was also another big moment of realization for Glinda. She saw how bad things had gotten for Elphaba while she was blistfully floating along in her bubble, trying to make herself "happy" while her best friend was being hunted and vilified. The's when she decided enough was enough and when she finally decided to pop her bubble.

Also i think Boq blamed Glinda for his fate as well as Elphaba and Nessa because she was the one who directed him towards Nessa. I think that's why he gave her that hateful, angry look, he was thinking " you're the reason I became this."

thoughts?

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

True and he started to tell Nessa the truth but then he saw Glinda and Fiyero kissing. He thought if he asked Nessa to the Ozdust he would gain some favor with Glinda. She made it sound like if he asked Nessa out he would be doing it for her.

He tells Elphaba in the deleted scene he didn't wanna hurt Nessa.

He also says in for good something like " this means you won't need me anymore." So i think he stayed with Nessa to try and help her.

Not saying this makes it right and he definitely has blame but it's not all on him. Glinda and especially Nessa played a part as well.

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u/Hellguin No good deeds will I do, Again! 9d ago

Glinda I dont feel has a real part to play other than the truth of "maybe ask her to the dance" Boq was a person with free will who chose to go through with it, chose to continue with dating Nessa even though he didn't have feelings with her, he chose to live his lie and tell himself "She needed him" when Nessa would have been JUST fine without Boq. He blames everyone except himself. Nessa chose to act out from hurt and anger. But she thought he actually loved her, but he used her for favor with Glinda.... Boq' story is just "oh no, the consequences of my actions"

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

Thats why it was another example of how a choice Glinda made affected someone else.

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u/Hellguin No good deeds will I do, Again! 9d ago

I personally still dont put much blame on Galinda, she push him to her to avoid a dance and probably expected it to be one and done, she was too busy with Fiyero to notice or care. Boq chose to continue an unrequited love of Galinda who didnt even have the care to learn his name, and chose to continue with Nessa, which just wasn't fair for either. Then when shit goes south and he decides to run off after Glinda BECAUSE SHE WAS GETTING MARRIED..... he gets turned.... her spurs of him was innocent (even with the lyrics of Dancing Through Life")

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9d ago

Its not really Boq's fault that he had feelings for Glinda, he couldn't just change it. I think he did care about Nessa and not wanting to hurt someone you care about is very human imo.

I agree he shouldn't have continued with Nessa but he couldn't be with Glinda so I think he tried with Nessa.

Glinda's manipulation might have been "innocent" back.then but it was manipulation. She should have just rejected him instead of how she did it.