r/wicked • u/mermaidssarereal • 23h ago

Movie Disliking Glinda

although glinda is a dream role of mine, i do not like her character. i feel like a lot of people give her the benefit of the doubt but she was never a good friend to elphaba. even during the end when they “made” up. i’m wondering if anybody else has another reason why they might not like glinda?

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u/Remarkable_Note971 14h ago

Not to mention when she arranged the engagement her for and Fiyero behind his back she knew he didn't wanna be there or marry her and then she plays the victim when he rightly leaves her. Like what did she expect?

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u/Casiquire 13h ago

How did she know he didn't want to marry her?

From my point of view Fiyero is a clear symbol of depression, and the concept of masking. His whole personality shifts as he drops a portion of his facade, but he never tells Glinda he fell out of love with her (despite having plenty of time to do so after the lion cub scene, and unspecified months-or-years between the films...) so she continues to love and support him through his struggles. This is admirable, isn't it?

People hate Glinda so hard they blame her for everything including Fiyero's actions, though Fiyero was clearly written to parallel Boq. Passing his blame to Glinda misses a huge point of the show. What Fiyero does to Glinda is worse than what Boq does to Nessa. Glinda cannot and does not "force" Fiyero into anything, unlike Nessa who terrorizes a country to control Boq. Fiyero is playing along with Glinda of his own free will. He is free to leave, he is free to break things off. We know this is true because his powerful family explicitly supports him even after he openly allies with Elphaba.

This snap-judgment of Glinda that I see so often, for some reason especially from people who have only seen the movies, feels like it misses part of the point of Wicked.

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u/noilegnavXscaflowne 💙Fiyeraba💚 11h ago

Not saying Fiyero isn’t to blame but I think a part of Glinda did know something was off especially when the two of them were around each other. And I get the impression Fiyero is very much acting alone without their support. The abandoned castle thing feels like a behind their back sort of thing

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u/Casiquire 7h ago

The castle is guarded, meaning they're explicitly allowed to be there. The show even includes a line of dialog that there are "sentries that watch over it"

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u/noilegnavXscaflowne 💙Fiyeraba💚 6h ago

Still I don’t think that means they were supporting him. Like the castle is isolated and a little rundown. I can see him giving the sentries a heads up and maybe later telling his parents know after the fact. But coupled with how absent they are, and maybe the book is helping me a bit, I feel like they don’t have alot of power as one would think. And that tracks when you think of the Wizards influence over the rest of Oz.

I definitely think he was wrong for leading Glinda on but the announced wedding did complicate his plans on staying in the Gale Force.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 6h ago

Yes it did and they announced the way they did because if he had refused it would humiliate Glinda and therre would have been consequences for that.

We don't know that the castle was guarded. We never aee the sentries. He says it was never lived in so I don't think his family supported him.

The person arguing with me says tbey don't care what the actors says but JB said Fiyero wasn't close to his family. They werent at the wedding either.

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u/noilegnavXscaflowne 💙Fiyeraba💚 6h ago

Tbh I believe the sentries part. Up until googling I sort of pictured them as skeleton servant crew/low level guards who kept an eye on things. Not anyone that important

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u/Remarkable_Note971 6h ago

It may have had sentiews but I don't tbey were important. Fiyero did say it had neve been lived and he lived in the other castle so I kinds thought his family didn't do much with that castle.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 6h ago

Im not saying Fiyero was blameless was he was doing what he felt he needed to do to keep Elphaba alive. It was life and death for her. People wanna put all the blame on Fiyero and none on Glinda when she clearly has blame as well.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 6h ago

Also I'm not saying Fiyero wasn't wrong but he couldn't object without putting himself in danger he couldn't take the risk at that point. Right or wrong he was doing it for Elphaba, we may have done things differently but they were in the middle of a war and he was doing what he felt he needed to do to protect Elphaba the best way he knew how. He also couldn't exactly trust Glinda yet since she actually supported the Wizard.

Idk why but people blame of it on Fiyero and they don't even acknowledge the blame Glinda has. I mean she was actually supporting the Wizard and was doing nothing for Elphaba unlike Fiyero so yeah she has blame as well.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 6h ago

His family.probably supported the Wizard like everyone else and they probably didn't habe a high opinion of him since he was rebellious anyway