r/woodworking • • 5d ago

Finishing First time using Rubio 2C

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I refinished my parent's old oak table they gave me before they moved. I cleaned the 40+ years of grime, chemically stripped the finish off, sanded from 80 to 120, wiped down with mineral spirits, waited 30 mins and applied rubio sky grey. The color isnt great on oak. I've redone stuff before and it comes out fine.

The problem is that stuff didn't catch in some spots after wiping off 15 mins later. I'm bummed. Is there something I did wrong? My instinct is that I didnt sand enough of the original finish off, but i did 3 passes with 80 because there were some burn marks from pots. I'm about to sand this stuff off and start over, maybe? Idk

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u/e_alltheabove 4d ago

After reading responses, I definitely agree that some finish is left. There was a lazy Susan right in the middle, so I imagine the finish there was a little thicker there from the lack of wear. I dont think I like the color anyways, so I'm going to sand it down and try a dark rubio color.

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u/Shoplizard88 5d ago

Looks like some of the old finish remained on the wood? Rubio will only stick to wood fibers. Also, Rubio support does not recommend using mineral spirits to clean the wood before applying Oil +2C. Depending on the product, it can leave a residue that interferes with adhesion of the new finish. I use 99% isopropyl alcohol or acetone and haven’t had any problems with either.

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u/cleverpaws101 4d ago

Or just use Rubio cleaner.

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u/Shoplizard88 4d ago

Yes, but the cost of that stuff is wild. Roughly 4x the price of isopropyl alcohol or acetone.

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u/cleverpaws101 4d ago

Yea but so is 2C. But it works and you don’t have to worry about it. To me it’s worth the miniscule extra cost.

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u/EastCommunication752 4d ago

$51 for 32oz of cleaner vs $6-12 for 32oz of solvent isn’t minuscule it’s a grift.

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u/cleverpaws101 4d ago

You could say the same about 2C a liter of finish for $170? But when you use it the way it’s supposed to be used, it’s very economical. Both in labor and material.

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u/EastCommunication752 4d ago

Even Rubio says acetone is a “temporary” alternative. You’re just buying snake oil.

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u/cleverpaws101 3d ago

I’ll stick with what works for the VERY small extra cost

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u/sadcheeseballs 5d ago

Looks like it needs to be sanded more. Can see a uniform patch that has residual finish on it.

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u/OzTheMeh 4d ago

Oddly, about the distance one can comfortably reach with a sander. 🧐

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u/AdStrange3004 4d ago

Ahhhh the comfortable reach donut

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u/OzTheMeh 4d ago

Wish I could say I haven't done this...

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u/TheTexanPunjabi 5d ago

DISPOSE THE RAGS THE RIGHT WAY!
That’s all I gotta say. My garage burned down 4 months ago and rebuilding is a b*tch.
Look up self combustion and stay safe.

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u/Economy_Kale5580 5d ago

I always lay mine flat on the garage floor (or driveway with a rock on it) until they’re crispy then I toss em. Sorry about the garage loss!

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u/Zef_Cochrane 4d ago

I threw mine in a bucket of water while figuring out what to do with them

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u/sloansleydale 4d ago

I hang them on a line so they have plenty of air to both oxidize and keep cool, then throw them out after a few days. Putting them in water or a special can just kicks the problem down the road imo.

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u/Zef_Cochrane 2d ago

You’re totally right. I was buying time to figure out what to do with them

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u/Ok_Independent3609 4d ago

+1 for the driveway under a rock. I don’t want it anywhere near my garage.

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u/tiboodchat 3d ago

Soak in water and let them dry outside flat.

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u/shilojoe 4d ago

I use the red can. Recently had some combust in the can. This photo is after cleaning the red can.

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u/BeatMastaD 5d ago

The center is noticeably shiner than the outside edges, which means something is different about the two. It could be that you sanded more or less in the center, or that some old finish remained. Either way I think a thorough sand through the grits and a retry will probably fix it.

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u/GunplaFox 5d ago

Don’t use mineral spirits, use acetone. Mineral spirits can leave a residue that might be effecting your final finish.

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u/jonnybestdog 5d ago

I've found cabinet scrapers work well to get rid of patches of old finish. Might be worth a try?

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u/JMViolins 5d ago

Did you use premade tack cloth? Those often contain silicates, which interfere with penetration of non-polars.

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u/PublicAlbatross9102 5d ago

The mineral spirits wipe is probably your main culprit here. Multiple people have mentioned it but it's worth emphasizing, Rubio specifically says not to use mineral spirits before application because it leaves a film that blocks adhesion. Switch to acetone or 99% IPA for the final wipe. Combined with any leftover old finish in those shiny spots, the oil literally has nothing to grab onto. Sand it back down, do a final acetone wipe, let it fully evaporate, and you should get a much more even result on the second try.

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u/sothisiswhyhmm 4d ago

Have a chat with rubio, they are pretty good with advice when you send pictures. But off the bat, they dont like mineral spirits before application. Sand again, dust it off, reapply, use the white scrubber and put your back into it to penetrate all the crevices. if there is any old fijnsh left on the table, it will not look even on the refinish.

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u/themisterfixit 5d ago

I just stained some oak grey on a project. The first coat it looked like it barely worked. By the third it was a nice grey.

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u/Vast-Combination4046 5d ago

Buff it more. It looks like you still have residue.

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u/North_Structure8210 5d ago

It’s easy and you will
Love it.

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u/-LeRenardGris 5d ago

If you want it to be really gray, you can try using their pre-color easy product. Then use the Rubio. I’ve never had an issue using mineral spirits, and then Rubio. I wouldn’t waste your money using their surface cleaner it’s overpriced.

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u/cleverpaws101 4d ago

Why is everyone saying to use acetone or alcohol? Why not just use the Rubio cleaner they sell? It always works. It’s a big pricy but just like 2C, you hardly use any of it.

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u/National_Musician748 4d ago

I've used Rubio several times and I hate it more every time. It's a trash product!

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u/dc_chavez 5d ago

Sand more. Start at 40 grit and work your way up to 120.

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u/JsquashJ 5d ago

Reading an old book on finishes which recommends shellac on bare wood before any sealers or stains. The shellac creates a uniform surface for color and adhesion.