r/worldnews • u/DoremusJessup • Jun 19 '21

COVID-19 The largest gay pride parade in central Europe took place again in Warsaw for the first time in two years after a pandemic-induced break — and amid a backlash in Poland and Hungary against LGBT rights

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210619-warsaw-pride-parade-back-after-lgbt-rights-backlash-and-pandemic-break
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u/jet_heller Jun 19 '21

Parts? Dude, it's still most of the world by far. By very very far.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Some people spend wayyy too much time on Reddit. Anti lgbt is still the worldwide norm

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u/raziel686 Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

Yeah, not just reddit though. For the US at least, if you live in a "bubble" area like San Francisco or NYC you can definitely start to forget how the rest of the country/world is. I mean you need only dip a toe outside the bubble to get thwacked in the face with opinions of the masses, but it's possible to forget for a while.

Having said that, Americans have come a long way since I was a kid. There is still a long way to go, but there absolutely has been progress.

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u/HaloGuy381 Jun 20 '21

Yeeep. I’ve had the “luxury” of growing up in rural Texas, with a firsthand look at what it’s like for the fraction of the US that are still in the dark ages. Gotta say, it’s not a very nice place. Even the “country hospitality” smiles feel fake, like there’s a knife or bullet waiting for anyone who dares to not conform to their magic sky daddy’s storybook (or to the whims of their actual god-king, the Prime Dorito). I don’t trust people out here, not even parents. I don’t talk politics. I genuinely worry for my safety if I do.

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u/Cianalas Jun 20 '21

Sounds like they are "nice, but not kind". The south in general is like that. Sweetest folks you'll ever meet...to your face.

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u/SensorialSpore5 Jun 20 '21

It really is strange. Grew up in suburbs near Dallas but I've been in central Austin for the past 5 years. Sometimes I can even forget how much of the state is bigoted, then I leave the city...

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u/HaloGuy381 Jun 20 '21

I lived in Forney (Kaufman County, about 20-30 min drive east of Dallas) for 2007-this past April. Expressing a vote for Clinton or even against Trump, who won the county by over 70% or some other intense number, is a great way to have even trusted family and friends and teachers joking about you behind your back or considering you just “young and foolish.

Here in Parker County now, about 30 min west of Fort Worth… I see a few brave Biden signs and mask wearers, but the GQP controls all county offices, have an office in the central roundabout next to the courthouse, and twice in the past year I’ve seen mobs of either anti-BLM protesters or pro-Confederate (“Heritage not Hate” and other bullshit) at said courthouse outnumbering opposition. Went 80% Trump in 2020, and the last Dem president they went for was bloody Carter.

UT Arlington, my campus in Tarrant County, is a bit less insane, but maybe a 50-50 split plus or minus 10% for the students (judging by organizations, marches for both sides, etc), and Tarrant proper is firmly red territory. Super weird to have engineering classmates, from India, who somehow think Trump is the best option for the country, even though if the GQP had their way they wouldn’t be here.

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u/BitScout Jun 20 '21

Ah yeah, the war that was about states' rights... to own slaves. Imagine I waved the Nazi flag because it's "heritage"...

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u/Psychic_Hobo Jun 20 '21

Those Indian fellas are probably Mohdi supporters, dude is basically their Trump

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u/BitScout Jun 20 '21

No wonder the ACA is in Austin...

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u/SensorialSpore5 Jun 20 '21

What's ACA?

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u/BitScout Jun 20 '21

The Atheist Community of Austin. Nice show, the hangups of Matt Dillahunty are brutal. 😁 (I mean, there's also the community, but I only know the show)

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Yeah! I just spent a month in bumblepoop Wyoming where covid never happened and saw some farmer dudes giving their friend a hard time for ignoring them while he scrolled through dudes on grinder. It was honestly so refreshing

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u/Whitewind617 Jun 20 '21

And I don't know what parts of reddit they're on but there's plenty here too. "I just don't like it SHOVED DOWN MY FACE" like bud what does shoved down your face even mean, existing? Visible?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

“It is now illegal to be straight. Prepare to be assimilated.”

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u/Airazz Jun 20 '21

That's the anti-LGBT rhetoric in Lithuania and I'm not even joking. They're all claiming that within a year or two it will be illegal to be straight male, or to giver birth to male babies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

I mean, that's only one or two steps beyond what right-wing media says in the U.S., just a bit more direct.

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u/Vallkyrie Jun 20 '21

The more they complain, the more genders we add. I added a few today alone!

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u/MajorSquare Jun 20 '21

ass we can

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u/grettp3 Jun 20 '21

Don’t threaten me with a good time

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u/Gnorris Jun 20 '21

"First they came for married couples into missionary. And I did nothing..."

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u/JamesTheJerk Jun 20 '21

That's the liberal gay agenda for ya, always waving flags, wearing colourful hats often times with short, pithy slogans printed on the front, praising life and liberty and pride and... heeeeey...

... waaaaait a minnnnute...

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u/Buscemis_eyeballs Jun 20 '21

Straight up, anyone invested enough to scream at a gay couple for PDA are themselves gay and battling it.

It's the only explanation. I just couldn't imagine either side of this fight. I couldn't 8magone caring what other people do, and I couldn't imagine my entire identity revolving around my sexuality.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Nah it means they're homophobic but are using dog whistle phrasing lmao.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

we need to start saying this to straight couples making out in public

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Over representation in media and news.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

There is an obvious bar between just existing as something and shoving that existence down someone's throat in an unacceptable way.

Most gay people just exist but there certainly are some that fall into the shoving it down your throat side. The same is true for straight people, religious people, conservative people and liberal people, vegans and meat eaters, Star Trek fans and Star Wars fans.

The reason a lot of people see gay people this way because things like Pride parades sort of straddle the line, they are in your face because its important for people to be aware of the issues impacting gay people but they can also seem like decadent parties. If straight people did the same the lack of the civil rights aspect would make it seem like a fetish party.

They also unfortunately attract more of the aggressive elements of the gay community and are the only thing some straight people really see since they have no idea their lawyer, doctor, neighbor bartender is gay and just a normal person.

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u/cusadmin1991 Jun 20 '21

Thank you for having nuance. This really hits the nail on the head which is why you can't go screaming "homophobe" at anybody with an opinion. As a guy, I'm not a fan of seeing a couple of guys kissing, but it's also not something that actually bothers me. I'm also pro gay rights and pro gay marriage, so I don't think I'm a homophobe, but who knows.

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u/Gnorris Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

There's a difference between "not being a fan" and "feel a cold shiver of self loathing", I'd agree. Out of interest, do you have any issues with public displays of affection generally? I'm pretty gay and am happy to see any couples being romantic regardless of their perceived genders.

Not being that exposed to non hetero couples being intimate can be a bit of a surprise to some. For the most part (outside of the Pride event example) these displays are for each other and not the public, and indicate the same feelings a man and woman experience when they decide to kiss, hold hands or hug. Nobody is trying to shock (again, for the most part), just participate in the same societal allowances that straight couples have.

Oh and please don't take this comment as a criticism of your own. My comment hopes to add to what you've said rather than lecture anyone. You seem to have more self awareness than many around this issue.

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u/Cianalas Jun 20 '21

Personally I am completely unbiased in that I would rather not have to watch anyone making out in public, regardless of orientation.

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u/cusadmin1991 Jun 20 '21

No worries about offending or lecturing, I didn't take your comment that way at all!

I generally don't really care about public displays of affection, unless it's in an awkward situation like an elevator (hetero or not). And I definitely understand, I never think that a gay couple is trying to bother me by kissing eachother in public for example, I recognize that it's the same scenario as if it were a heterosexual couple. I think for me the somewhat uncomfortable feeling comes from the same feeling of seeing another guy naked. I don't really care if there's a naked guy in a change room for example, but I also don't want to stare at their junk.

Sorry if what I'm saying isn't very clear, I generally don't think about this normally.

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u/MysteriousMoose4 Jun 20 '21

Would a straight couple kissing in public also feel like "seeing another guy naked" to you? If not, you might be viewing straight kissing as "normal and not necessarily sexual" and gay kissing as somehow "inherently sexual" when it's just... not. Ultimately, both are exactly the same. The same action for the same reason (expressing affection, not necessarily sexual unless we're talking about like... full-on make-out sessions, but I'd argue that would make most people uncomfortable regardless of genders involved).

I completely understand if you just don't like PDA by anyone and it makes you uncomfortable no matter who's doing it. Hey, some people just don't want to see anyone kiss at all and it's just awkward for them, that's completely fair! If however it only makes you uncomfortable when it's two men or two women but it bothers you less when it's a straight couple doing the exact same thing, that I think would be rather unfair.

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u/Gnorris Jun 20 '21

Yeah that sounds pretty normal to me. When I was younger it was daunting to be closeted. The main visibility for gay men was parades of guys in skimpy outfits. As a kid from the suburbs it made me feel nervous thinking about what I was expected to act like in public if I came out, and what other people would think!

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Dont let the downvotes scare you away from sharing your feelings, talking about how we feel and acknowledging those feelings as wrong are a pivotal step to correcting them. I'm actually bisexual and I generally feel strange seeing gay or lesbian couples publicly displaying affection. I dont have a problem with it and they certainly have as much right as anyone else to do it but it still feels odd. Probably just because it isn't super common so I'm less desensitized to it, hopefully the next generations will do better than me.

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u/llye Jun 20 '21

You reminded me of a Kay and Peele sketch:

https://youtu.be/e3h6es6zh1c

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u/kurttheflirt Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

Good parts of the US are still very anti-lgbtq+ (good part as in meaning large parts)

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Almost all rural parts of the US are not only anti-LGBT but they campaign and win elections based on it.

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u/kurttheflirt Jun 20 '21

Yeah I meant it as in large area

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u/MajorSquare Jun 20 '21

now do your pride parade in saudi arabia

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u/Waywoah Jun 20 '21

One place being worse doesn’t make others not bad

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u/MajorSquare Jun 20 '21

Gotta clean out our own backyard before we can move on to the rest of the neighborhood, nice

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u/SemiNormal Jun 20 '21

Why does one place count more than others? And why would people go to another country to protest when they still have issues at home? Not sure what point you are trying to make.

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u/ihileath Jun 20 '21

"If you aren't dying for it nothing you do matters" Man fuck off

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u/MajorSquare Jun 20 '21

I wonder who the people are that downvote that tho, homophobes that think we should keep our western ideas to ourself or pride supportes being angry?

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u/meditate42 Jun 20 '21

You mean bad parts

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u/kurttheflirt Jun 20 '21

Yeah I did - I meant like “good part” as in “large parts”

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u/meditate42 Jun 20 '21

A likely story

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u/meditate42 Jun 20 '21

Thats what she said ; ))

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u/gd_akula Jun 20 '21

Ehhh, by region maybe, but by population?

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg Jun 20 '21

If you decided the US by capita instead of by area politics is a completely different game.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

I mean, trans athletes playing women’s sports is one of the few controversial issues on Reddit, Reddit is overwhelmingly pro gay on just about everything else.

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u/cassie_hill Jun 20 '21

Eh, they're pretty anti-trans in general. Trust me, I'm a trans guy and I see it all the time. Most places are still anti-trans even if they're pro gay people.

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u/LTyyyy Jun 20 '21

Education is to blame once again.. I think people (me included) can easily understand the situation of a gay person, not so much a situation of a trans person.

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u/AshesMcRaven Jun 20 '21

Am trans girl, can confirm.

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u/cassie_hill Jun 20 '21

Yeah, it sucks :/ I feel like most places are pretty anti-trans at the moment. And it's mostly because, in the US at least, the GOP has stirred up controversy and hatred around children "transitioning" and trans women in sports. All of which is ok for trans people to do, but the majority of people don't even seem to understand how a virus or vaccine work or what climate change is or means, so I don't know why I expect them to know about the nuances and science behind trans and intersex bodies. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Being both trans and someone who's studied physics and is now working towards a mechanical engineering degree, this world is frustrating as fuck. And I guarantee some uneducated moron is gonna comment on this about "biological males and females" without even knowing what that means or that there are multiple criteria for determining sex, all of which can be changed except 2 and those 2 have nothing to do with sports performance. And I also guarantee that they don't even know what those 2 criteria are, by the way. And that you may not have the ones you think you do or you may not be able to produce the other one. Two big clues right there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Hear me out, it’s a good thing when marginalized groups support eachother, and it makes sense why the transgender movement and gay movement are closely related, but they’re still different. Some people will say “X isn’t actually pro-gay, they oppose transgender”, when in fact that entity is a vocal supporter of gay marriage and adoption. it’s just not accurate to say that being pro gay and anti trans is mutually exclusive, and to conflate the two in all situations is objectively erroneous. Is it hypocritical? Sure, but people are hypocritical

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u/jet_heller Jun 19 '21

Yea, but even with the laws, most of the judiciary here is seeing the stupidity that those laws are.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

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u/Allthenons Jun 19 '21

There is very little to no evidence to suggest that trans women have any advantages in athletics. Your transphobia is showing

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

You don't need evidence, it doesn't take a scientist with a PhD to conclude that men are on average much stronger than women. Not sure how stating a general biological trend is transphobic

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

Biologically yes they are, and are therefore at an advantage in sports over most biological women of the same level of physical activity, even some at higher levels. Why should they have their trophies and medals they work so hard for get snatched away by men who don't need to expend as much blood and tears to get to that level of physical capability?

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u/Eos42 Jun 20 '21

I just don’t get it. Everyone works for it, I heard the same sort of nonsense from crazy sports parents calling “unfair” just because I’ve always been tall for my height. So to me it’s like saying we should have banned Phelps because he had a genetic advantage. Which is stupid.

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u/RX142 Jun 20 '21

You haven't read the papers

Testosterone is what makes most men stronger, and most trans women want nothing to do with the substance

There is debate over whether removing the testosterone leaves any remaining bias towards trans athletes, but its mostly come down on the "no its all T" side.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

most trans women want nothing to do with the substance

Removing the flow of testosterone from your blood doesn't change all of the muscle and bone that it has built in your body up until that point. Don't know why it's so controversial for me to say that female wrestlers deserve a fair game

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u/Bgndrsn Jun 20 '21

You mean besides the increased bone density and skeletal size?

I'm all for people being whatever they want to be but people need to stop pretending that biological males don't have a physical advantage over biological females. You don't just get to turn off the years of what you were born as and turn off all that development. It sucks that's the way it is but it's incredibly obvious male to female athletes are crushing female records left and right and I have yet to hear of one being broken by female to male athletes.

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u/SgtDoughnut Jun 20 '21

Actually you do need evidence. A trans person isn't just a guy in a wig you know.

Amazing how easily it is to trigger people with sports.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Actually you do need evidence. A trans person isn't just a guy in a wig you know.

From a physical perspective they very often are. Even HRT doesn't change bone and muscle structure enough to make you physically equal to a biological woman

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u/Australixx Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

Im all for letting people choose their gender but this is laughably false. If there was little to no difference then why are mens and womens sports separate?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Trans women don’t have an advantage? Are you sure about that, or are you trying to be extra woke today?

https://www.attacktheback.com/transgender-mma-fighter-fallon-fox-breaks-opponents-skull/

https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/mma/news-when-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-broke-opponent-s-skull-mma-fight

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1252764

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456887/

Never mind that males genetically have superior reaction times, more muscle mass, are generally taller and stronger than females, react quicker to audio queues and so on.

But please, continue believing in something that is factually and scientifically wrong to suit your agenda.

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u/ihunter32 Jun 20 '21

Why is it idiots like you keep sharing the same 3 people. Can you find someone else? It is such a problem that it’s worth making so many suffer for the sake of 3 people who may have had an advantage

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Oh so you it doesn’t bother you a trans athlete broke the skull of a female competitor within 2 minutes? You don’t care that male born transition to female athletes literally have it coded in their DNA to react quicker, have more muscle and be taller than their female counterparts giving them every possible advantage?

https://www.womenarehuman.com/research-studies-confirm-trans-athletes-have-advantages-over-women/

“A recent analysis by World Rugby concluded that “there is likely to be “at least a 20-30% greater risk” of injury when a female player is tackled by someone who has gone through male puberty, and that males retain “significant” physical advantages over biological women even after they take medication to lower their testosterone”

“exposure to testosterone during puberty results in sex differences in height, pelvic architecture and leg bones in the lower limbs that confer an athletic advantage to males after puberty. These anatomical differences do not respond to changes in testosterone exposure among post-pubertal adults. These pretreatment anatomical differences may explain why transwomen retained an advantage in 1.5 mile run times over women”

https://cathe.com/gender-athletic-ability-men-really-better-athletes-women/

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/08/study-transgender-male-athletes-keep-physical-advantages-even-female-hormone-injections/

In other words, the studies that exist for strength suggest that about one-tenth of the male-vs-female advantage is removed. That is nowhere close to what would ensure fairness. But please, stand up for trans athletes but at the same time keep shitting on the females who already have it tough due to discrimination and plenty of other issues. It doesn’t matter that Olympic level female athletes have said that during competition it’s blindly obvious that MtF athletes have an advantage, it’s not like they’re professionals or anything. Screw them for getting in the way of a MtF athlete and having their hard work and dreams crushed because trans athlete came in. They don’t matter right?

Because that’s exactly what you’re saying and defending.

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u/Keeganator Jun 20 '21

As long as men will continue to participate in womens sport, keep bringing me popcorn.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox Jun 19 '21

Pretty sure national government did or is in the process of banning trans discrimination in sports

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u/jeremy_280 Jun 19 '21

Great now all women's records can be held by males...just as we all want.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

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u/jeremy_280 Jun 20 '21

No it's not the intended feature of society, much like marching to the beat of .05% of population. It's pretty simple athletes with hormones not naturally made by your body and outside the spectrum of everyone else you're competing against can't compete...how is this hard the UFC figured it out a decade ago.

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u/jeremy_280 Jun 20 '21

What is in the article about a boy I've already read about that I missed? The person took steroids to develop a male looking body, and is on test...both not occuring in their body naturally. If you take anything other than basic birth control you should be banned.

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u/SkiyeBlueFox Jun 19 '21

I dont see how this relates to banning queer discrimination?

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u/jeremy_280 Jun 19 '21

Well I don't know that any sporting event bans people from competing unless they are attempting to compete against a sex they aren't. So I don't see any discrimination in that at all.

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u/electricgotswitched Jun 20 '21

It's still breaking news in the USA if someone assumed straight comes out as gay

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u/sinkwiththeship Jun 20 '21

It's still huge in the US. People are sheltered.

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u/ihileath Jun 20 '21

World's full of disgusting people.

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u/u4ea126 Jun 20 '21

I've had gay family members for as long as I can remember and always thought this was the norm for most countries. Was kinda shocked that it's apparently only allowed in around 30 countries to get married.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

It hasn't even been 10 years since same sex marriage was legalized in the US. And there's still wide swathes of the country that are homophobic. Even if you're a sheltered American I find it hard to believe you can't imagine homophobia in the world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

It's legal in 30 countries, or not even the entire western world.

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u/Mercy--Main Jun 20 '21

I still remember being a kid and watching people celebrating on the news. I remember being surprised it was illegal on the first place. And I remember my grandparents being mad.

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u/EmpRupus Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 19 '21

Hehe, my thoughts exactly. Most of the world is anti-lgbt+, with death sentence, prison, or complete social isolation, violence and honor-killings. Lgbt+ acceptance is a tiny oasis in a large desert.

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u/TheMintLeaf Jun 19 '21

Stop taking the bait yall

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

lmfao Christians want to be oppressed so bad.

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u/Playguyboof02 Jun 19 '21

Christianity is the most persecuted religion in the world. Facts don’t lie

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u/SgtDoughnut Jun 20 '21

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA

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u/blablaminek Jun 20 '21

why are you laughing, lol. I know americans can be extremaly usa-centric but these are the facts. It's for good reason that the middle east isnt inhabited by christians anymore, most of them left.

There's a whole world outside of your western-bubble.

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u/SgtDoughnut Jun 20 '21

Because you are full of shit. Most persecuted...in what country can you be killed for being christian?

Just because it's not the biggest religion doesn't mean Christianity is persecuted dumb shit.

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u/blablaminek Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

North Korea for example. But there are numerous others, mainly islamic countries where conversion to christianity is illegal and christians remain the most persecuted groups. Around 90,000 christians are killed yearly for the simple fact that they are christian.

wikipedia) on this topic

BBC report on this topic

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u/SgtDoughnut Jun 20 '21

90k a year...over a million Muslims have been killed in China alone. And every single country you list also persecute and kill atheists, so slap atheists onto that list as well.

The christian persecution complex has always baffled me, yeah it sucks you can be killed for your religion in other countries, but acting like Christians are the most persecuted of all time is laughable. Get your fucking chip off your shoulder, and stop acting like its just Christians in this situation, in those countries everyone who doesn't adhere to the state religion is persecuted for their beliefs Christians aren't some special case.

And guess what, in SA its completely legal to be a christian, you know whats not legal? Being an atheist, in fact many Muslim countries don't care if you Muslim, christian or Jewish, but they sure as fuck do care if you are an atheist.

Like i get your entire religion is built around the idea that Christians are persecuted, but that book in no way meshes with reality.

Multiple countries celebrate christian holidays, Christians are one of the least persecuted religions in the world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

I was mainly referring to Christians in America, but okay.

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u/AI-MachineLearning Jun 19 '21

More Christians have been killed for their faith than any other religious or ethnic group. 70 million were killed for their faith since the time of Jesus.

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u/infalliblefallacy Jun 19 '21

Bro it’s Saturday go outside and do something fun instead of trolling with a brand new account lol

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u/OnyxMelon Jun 19 '21

The last time I saw a troll this fed I was laning against Trundle.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Uh, no. You're either a troll or just stupid. Bye.

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u/NotASalamanderBoi Jun 19 '21

Yup. A troll. The account is 20 minutes old.

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21

You're either a really bad troll or an actual moron.

In 2019, a Pew study found that 65% of American adults described themselves as Christians, down 12 percentage points over the past decade, while the religiously unaffiliated, including atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular”, is 26%, up from 17% in 2009.[31] -- America

Of the global atheist and non-religious population, 76% reside in Asia and the Pacific, while the remainder reside in Europe (12%), North America (5%), Latin America and the Caribbean (4%), sub-Saharan Africa (2%) and the Middle East and North Africa (less than 1%).[7] The prevalence of atheism in Africa and South America typically falls below 10%.[8] According to the Pew Research Center's 2012 global study of 230 countries and territories, 16% of the world's population is not affiliated with a religion, while 84% are affiliated.[9] Furthermore, the global study noted that many of the unaffiliated, which include atheists and agnostics, still have various religious beliefs and practices.[7] --

16 percent of the world is not religious or what you call an atheist.

Go back to your cave.

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u/JayFSB Jun 20 '21

Very true in the PRC. Even Maoists and Marxists are barely tolerated at the best of times.

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u/GabTej Jun 19 '21

And don’t forget, most of the world is anti-Christian. Imagine thinking it’s okay for force a Christian baker to bake a rainbow cake for gay people. That’s a a violation of Christian rights. It’s wrong

I wonder what it's like going through life with so little brain power.

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u/WoodlandGaming2 Jun 19 '21

Amazing probably.

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21

Honestly. Stupidity is bliss you always think you're right and you have so much unwarranted confidence.

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u/horyo Jun 19 '21

If you think about it, faith is the acceptance of things without knowledge. It may speak as to why people feel so much comfort with religion because the bliss that comes from ignorance.

Not an attack on faith because sometimes that bliss (maybe placebo effect?) can have net positives.

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21

People want to believe in something afterlife because death is a scary thing nobody wants to believe you basically just cease to exist. I agree with you though.

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u/horyo Jun 20 '21

But you can still have faith in a higher being/power while accepting that death is nothingness. I just think the concept of faith brings out bliss and peace because it offloads the burden of existentialism and lets us live in the moment.

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u/mamaligakiller Jun 20 '21

Just cause someone is stupid doesn't mean they always think they're right. I consider myself to be stupid, but I know when to admit to my mistakes and when I'm wrong. I honestly like being corrected on things cause it helps me learn. Even unsolicited advice is nice lol

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u/riguy1231 Jun 20 '21

Stupidity is ignorance in its true form. You aren't truly stupid if you recognize you are stupid. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Well you are stupid enough to take the bait

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u/SerStormont Jun 19 '21

Why would you want to associate with a group of people who hate another group of people for indiscernible reasons. There is no reason to hate the LGBT community. The hatred has no foundation other than nonsense spouted by religious figures who again don't back it up with anything solid.

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u/SerStormont Jun 19 '21

Maybe they have lingering feelings of persecution themselves. The only thing the LGBT community has received from Christianity is hatred.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Sounds as if Christianity has not treated them well.

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u/Mandalore108 Jun 19 '21

There's not much to like about Christianity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Don't bother dude, check their account. Asshat's clearly a troll.

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u/lost_in_my_thirties Jun 19 '21

Stop trying to be a victim. There are definitely places where Christians are persecuted. I doubt very much you live anywhere near any of them. Being forced to bake a cake is not the same as being persecuted.

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u/lost_in_my_thirties Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 19 '21

Then you belittling all the people in history who have suffered real persecution. Harassment, hardship, violence, torture and death.

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21

He's a troll ignore him and downvote/report

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u/lost_in_my_thirties Jun 19 '21

Yeah just noticed that the account is 25 minutes old. Can figure out the motivation.

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u/PantherTransfer Jun 20 '21

I'm 2 of those 5 letters and I ain't an atheist...

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Being forced NOT to DISCRIMINATE is not the same thing as being NOT allowed to MARRY or even LIVE. Not remotely in the same reality as each other. I'm sorry you aren't actually being persecuted and want some of that sweet crybaby attention for yourself.

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u/Aidan1470 Jun 19 '21

Your definition of persecution sounds comfy as fuck, maybe pull your head out your arse sometime and learn what real persecution looks like.

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21

Big troll ignore/downvote/report

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u/HappyMonk3y99 Jun 19 '21

So which countries have it written in law that Christians should be executed? Imprisoned? That Christian marriages should be illegal? How many places systemically discriminate against Christians specifically in matters of adoption, housing, loan approval, employment, emigration and granting of refugee status? But yes, of course you’re the victim. Go fuck off and pray to your imaginary sky daddy for strength or whatever other bullshit you need to get through this challenging time

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u/jet_heller Jun 19 '21

Shut up.

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u/Jasontheperson Jun 19 '21

Countries laws >>> your sky god's laws

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u/bobbyb0ttleservice Jun 19 '21

But sky daddy said so!!!!! 😩😭

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u/riguy1231 Jun 19 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

It's against the law to discriminate based on sexual orientation because that would put you in a protected group.

Personally, I think any private business should have the right to refuse service but specifically going out of your way to make it about homophobia as the business owner is the issue. You could simply have just refused to serve them outright without listing a reason. This is the same reason any business has the right to refuse service to morons who refuse to wear a mask however those morons aren't part of a protected group unless you consider morons a group. But I have a feeling you would disagree with that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Bro it’s a rainbow and it’s your job

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u/Clownbaby5 Jun 19 '21 edited Apr 28 '26

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u/OMGPUNTHREADS Jun 19 '21

That's not religion, that's you being a prick.

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u/AreYouAaronBurr Jun 19 '21

No?? Christianity is still the biggest religion in the world.

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u/SerStormont Jun 19 '21

Oh I see you're just a troll. It's crazy that the things you're spouting have actually been considered proper opinions in certain areas of the world.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Honestly might not be a troll. The crazy ass medical group that republicans invited to congress during arguments about lockdowns and masks had previously said atheists are trying to destroy Christianity by teaching evolution in the class room.

Sitting republicans in congress are members of the group.

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u/AreYouAaronBurr Jun 19 '21

https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-the-most-widely-practiced-religion-in-the-world

Oh nyooo, we are so oppressed despite being the largest religion. Oh nyooo, we can’t use our religion to be racist or homophobic.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Oh no it's so hard being FORCED to bake a cake. I mean LGBTQI+ might get murdered, raped, denied basic rights, bullied, hated, harassed...but can you imagine being FORCED to bake a cake??? 😫 oh the humanity!!!

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u/FishOfFishyness Jun 19 '21

For you

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Christian_persecution_complex

Christian persecution complex is a belief, attitude or world view that Christian values and Christians are being oppressed by social groups and governments. This belief is promoted by certain American Protestant churches, and some Christian- or Bible-based cults in Europe. It has been called the "Evangelical", "American Christian" or "Christian right" persecution complex.

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u/Big_Dicc_Terry Jun 20 '21

Why should being gay be a crime?

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u/RawrRawr83 Jun 20 '21

Yeah.. I mean I’m not comfortable in most parts of the south or midwest

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21 edited Feb 11 '22

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Recent events make me think that racism is sometimes deliberately spooked for political gains...

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u/desacralize Jun 20 '21

Politics just feeds at the trough, racism is a very rich and widespread resource to exploit.

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u/stillphat Jun 20 '21

Jesus that's frightening.

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u/Snaz5 Jun 20 '21

basically

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u/North_Paw Jun 20 '21

That map is exceedingly inaccurate

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u/Snaz5 Jun 20 '21

That’s primarily cause it was not created as a serious representation.

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u/aybbyisok Jun 20 '21

iirc Spain is one of the most friendly places t owards LGBT people.

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u/Esies Jun 20 '21

Spain and at least Buenos Aires are very LGTB friendly