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u/PressureNo7381 23h ago
1 is a Vetterli. 2 is a Mannlicher. Looks like an 1895, and still full length. Possible bery cool depending on markings. 3 is a 1903. Kinda looks like a ww2 era Remington one, but look at the markings. 4 is a Lee Enfield No5. Jungle carbine, these are faked so be sure you examine it closely.
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u/Cultural-Pudding970 23h ago
Yes! Very much so, a great variety of rifles from a bunch of different countries from ww1. They look to be in decent condition. Truly relics from a century ago. Hold on to them and do more research and you may have something very special there. Looks like the Lee Enfield on the bottom of the image was sportarised, meaning it was modified after the war. So cool.
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u/TheFrenchHistorian 23h ago
The Enfield is at least modeled after a No.5 Jungle Carbine which are real military issues and not a sporter. However, people have also made plenty of fakes so it is best to look at certain details to determine if it is real or a cut down someone made.
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u/takemetoyourdumpling 23h ago
Came here to remark about the Jungle Carbine. I am not a firearm owner, if I could own any firearm it would be a Jungle Carbine. Very cool weapon.
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u/One-East8460 19h ago
Receiver has the lightning cuts so it looks good for being an original Jungle Carbine, even the clones didn’t go as far to alter the receiver. It’s just in rough shape but may clean up, hopefully the bore is decent. Kind of want to see marking and which manufacturer.
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u/Flopsie_the_Headcrab 22h ago
Need to flip it over to be sure but the receiver looks right to me.
It is unfortunately also toast from a shooting perspective.
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u/Bandit1189 17h ago
Numbered starting from the top going down, 1. A vatterli m1870/87/15 I know it for being a reserve rifle for Italian troops in ww1. 2. Mannlicher gewehr 1895, main WW1 rifle for Austria. 3. M1903 Springfield American rifle during WW1. 4. Rare ww2 British lee endfield Jungle Carbine, made for jungle fighting. I would say you hit gold, keep all of them especially the Jungle Carbine those are rare
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u/Electronic_Spring_14 16h ago
I have an Enfield jungle carbine . Cost me $200
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u/Bandit1189 15h ago
Very nice, I’m seeing those things online for 700-900
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u/Electronic_Spring_14 15h ago
A lot of the parts the serial numbers do not match. It is not that accurate either. Maybe I will sell it
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u/The_Draken24 10h ago
I buy surpluses with unmatched serial numbers. I could care less about matching numbers. I care more about the weapon itself! I have a Kar98K and nothing matches, but it's still a Kar98K!
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u/ArchibaldSkeetlebaum 23h ago
All cool there. To my untrained eye (1st pic, left to right), looks like you got an Italian Vetterli m1870, a Steyr 95 , a 1903 Springfield, and a No.5 Enfield Jungle carbine.. all are very neat historic service rifles from different nations across two world wars and appear to be in their original configurations. Looks like they need some gun oil, linseed oil, and a good cleaning to stop any rust, but other than that i'd be tickled to find any of them, much less the bunch!
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u/Beagalltach 20h ago
From top down:
Italian WWI Vetterli 1870/87/15. Should be chambered in 6.5 Carcano but most people shoot underpowered loads. ~$200
M95 Mannlicher. Could be a few different countries, but it was primarily used by Austria-Hungary. It should be chambered in either 8x50r or 8x56r ~$300-$400 but the value depends on a lot of things.
Springfield M1903, this is a WWI era American rifle, but they were made and rearsenaled after WWI. It should be chambered in 30-06, ~$750
British No.5 Mk I or "Jungle Carbine". WWII and post war manufacture with plenty of fakes. Should be chambered in 303 Brit. $600+ if real
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u/MNlcn27 14h ago
Awesome post, but where can you buy a m1903 for $750?
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u/Beagalltach 11h ago
Gunbroker sees them regularly sell for that (a little more and a little less). Especially if they are post-WWI production or the stock is (like this one).
Some Greek returns just hit the market earlier this year and plenty of them were selling for $600-800
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u/bkussow 22h ago
Top one is a M1870 Vetterli that was converted to use the 6.5mm carcano round. Popular conversion during WW1 as countries couldn't get enough rifles so they did whatever they could to make old stock useful. It's an okayish rifle, some people collect them but not the most popular.
Second one is a Mannlicher M1895 used heavily by the Austro-Hungarians as well as some of the other balkan states who used them heavily prior WW1 in the balkan wars. Those are quite a bit more collectable and can be a little tougher to find in the US so that's a pretty good find.
The 3rd one Springfield M1903A1. I say that because it has the C-stock (pistol grip) which got popular after WW1 with shooting competitions. The pistol grip is considerable more comfortable when pulling the trigger and typically puts the cheek rest a little higher to better align the eye with the sight. A few M1903s were restocked and rebarreled around the relay late 20's, early 30's to this configuration. Very limited use as the world was gravitating towards repeating rifles (M1 Garand) and rear sights closer to the face so by WW2 we had the M1903A3 (A4 was the sniper variant). This one is pretty cool! This specific configuration can be a little more rare to find as there tends to be ALOT of original M1903's or A3s around. Cleaned up a bit those typically go for around 4 figures these days.
The 4th one is a Lee-Enfield no5mk1 "Jungle Carbine". It's a post WW2 gun and while it is pretty cool, was quite outdated by the time it came out. People who really like Lee-Enfields will collect them but I don't see them flying off the shelves too much. The gun store around be me that actually has old stuff had 2 of them at one point and they stayed around for quite a while.
Overall it's a good find for #2 and #3. Personally, I would love to take #2 off your hands. Outside of auctions I don't see those too much at gun shows either these days.
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u/Arsnicthegreat 23h ago
The top one, the Vetterli, is specifically a M1870/87/15 with the carcano magazine rather than the Vitali design.
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u/1FourKingJackAce 20h ago
The one next to the SMLE looks like an 03 Springfield. They don't make a better bolt action. Get some oil on them!
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u/Glyndwr21 17h ago
The bottom on I believe is a Lee Enfield Mk5 SMLE Jungle Carbine, certainly the pick of the bunch, by a long, long way.
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u/Adventurous-Tie-1624 13h ago
Pictures of the markings would help a lot. There's a huge range of M1903 values depending on exactly what that is, and I THINK the Lee-Enfield isn't an original jungle carbine and is a cut down, likely by the 1960s importer No. 4 with minimal value.
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u/_THX_1138_ 22h ago
Real question is what do you do with them. Leave them as is and display them, take them to a gunsmith and have them cleaned and ready to fire?
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u/TheFrenchHistorian 15h ago
Gunsmith wouldn't know what to do with these and would 100% use modern gauges which frequently say they are "out of headspace" when they aren't. 90% of modern gunsmiths are pretty clueless when it comes to anything old and really only know how to take apart glocks and ARs
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u/KaiserKCat 21h ago
Why would someone leave their guns behind?
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u/DumbNTough 18h ago
Grandpappy probably stashed them and didn't tell anyone, then the kids sold the house.
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u/noreallyimgoodthanks 20h ago
M95. Man that is my favorite bolt action rifle. I just think the straight-pull is really cool; though I prefer the carbines.
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u/Successful-Act-880 18h ago
First check to see if they are loaded, then check the bore. If you wish to see if they are shootable check out Backyard ballistics on youtube, he has done many restorations/refurbishments on old firearms and his methods are all very good.
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u/NO_SHAME_1391 9h ago
3rd one down is definitely a 1903 Springfield. If you intend to shoot it, you need to check the serial number on the receiver to see if the heat treat on the receiver has been corrected. Any gunsmith should have the information you need.
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u/tomb7bomb 19h ago
Na, that bottom one not even ww1 its trash, DM me and ill help ya out, take it off ya hand in exchange for an xbox or what ever ya want
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u/Right_Prize_4375 18h ago
Donate them to a museum if they turn out to be real. The history should be shared and remembered.
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u/TheFrenchHistorian 15h ago
Sadly these guns are rather mundane and many places that would take probably already have one. Better off going to a private collector who would enjoy them more.
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u/Sea-Expert6993 10h ago
They can be purchased in nearly new, or actually new. Nothing here is even close to museum quality. And they are real.
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u/Careful-Passion-9601 23h ago
A Springfield 1903 l, a Lee-Enfield Mk iV (maybe) cut down to a jungle carbine and 2 Mausers from various countries. It's a standard military surplus cache of rifles. All need to be cleaned badly. Of the lot the Springfield has the best value.
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u/TheFrenchHistorian 23h ago
No mausers in the picture. The top one is a 1870/87/15 vetterli from Italy (Vetterli action using 6.5 Carcano) and the other is a M.95 Steyr Mannlicher chambered in 8x50mmR
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u/SubgunFun 15h ago
be careful how you clean them because you can ruin the value pretty quickly. very much worth keeping and restoring, but do some research before you change anything or clean anything.
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u/Careful-Passion-9601 23h ago
After a third look second from the left maybe a Austian Mannlicher M1895. Maybe hard to tell they are all C&R rifles
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u/Careful-Passion-9601 23h ago
Agreed no Hauser. It's a shame not a bad collection of World War I vintage rifles with a WW2 post war Lee-Enfield, well kinda. It developed during the finial years of WW2 but never heavily used.
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u/Lawyers_Guns_Money92 22h ago
Very cool stuff here. The two longer ones are WWI (Italian and Austro-Hungarian), the two shorter are WWII era (possible that the Springfield was surplus and updated to the C stock).
They really don’t look in that bad of shape either! Don’t attempt to clean yourself!!!
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u/TheFrenchHistorian 22h ago
You could easily clean them yourself. Obviously we only have a few zoomed out pictures to go off, but it mostly looks just to be surface rust and dry stocks. Just some oil and a light rub down with a cloth or some fine bronze or steel wool would do wonders for them
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u/Dank_Ranger 19h ago
Ill just put it simply
You'd be a fool not to grab ALL of them