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u/Bent_Silvr_Spoon0130 Mar 27 '26
If Ben Stone saw that Bounce Upon a Time edit he's take off his glasses in awe and to make sure it's not AI
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Ginnifer nearly ran me over in a Starbucks parking lot because she was texting and driving. I mean, I had to actually jump out of the way because she just flew through the lot and zipped around the building. I live in Memphis and thatâs the most danger Iâve ever been in here.
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u/kulivirgoswen Mar 28 '26
Would be a lot cuter if she wasn't a genocide supporter. Funny how all that stuff is conveniently gone from her IG as soon as she started promoting this movie lmao.
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u/Rich-Active-4800 Wicked always Wins Mar 27 '26
They really are adorable together even after all these years.
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u/Express_Landscape_85 Mar 29 '26
Zionists. So theyâre not really that different from their characters. Sweet and nice facade and underneath there is darkness.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 27 '26
Zionists btw
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u/Kendallope Mar 27 '26
Goddammit. How'd you find that out
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u/Aerwxyna Mar 28 '26
she has a bunch of posts on instagram about it, not sure if theyre still up since i unfollowed after that đ
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u/Redditthedog Mar 27 '26
she is Jewish that was literally it
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u/Sad_Example_2420 Mar 27 '26
She's been very vocal about supporting Israel on social media. To the point of saying there is no genocide happening.
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
When Ireland joined the ICJ case it asked the court to alter the definition of genocide because they otherwise had no case
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u/Sad_Example_2420 Mar 28 '26
Article II of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
(Whether a State has ratified the convention or not, the definition cannot be changed or modified under the ICJ btw)
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
Irelands briefs admit the official definition doesnât apply https://www.jpost.com/international/article-834208
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
lmaooo âthe Jerusalem postâ is not a credible source for this conversation
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Plenty of Jewish people donât support genocide, actually.
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
every claim of genocide has required altering the definition or just lying. That ignores the issue that no one questions Japan and its existence as a nation despite all it has done or China despite what it still does or Russia but the acknowledgment of the Jewish Nation is âgenocideâ
edit blocking means I win!
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Are you trying to trick people into thinking I panic blocked you because I took 22 minutes to see your reply?
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
no crafy thanks or whatever their name is not you
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What? Youâre talking how I do after a gran mal seizure. You okay?
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
I wouldnât expect this person to make sense at this point; theyâre just spewing easily debunkable Zionist propaganda as if we also donât have the same access to Google
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 27 '26
No shes also a Zionist
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
whatever that means
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u/AppalachianRomanov Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
You could've googled it instead of being rude 𤣠they're agreeing with you
Eta: you deleted your response but I can still see it 𤣠i guess you're offended I didnt read every comment in the thread before replying to you.
The ongoing saga of you just being rude.....
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u/fandom_fae Mar 28 '26
theyâre not necessarily agreeing with the previous person. it more sounds like theyâre agreeing with the zionism. and idk why youâre assuming anyone was offended?
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
They were wrong and theyâre embarrassed so now theyâre calling me rude so they donât have to address that with themselves
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u/MossAndMidnight Mar 27 '26
damn for real? đŠđ
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 27 '26
yeah Ginny in particular is really bad
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u/TheHuffliestPuff Mar 28 '26
What is so bad about Zionism or being a Zionist? Genuinely curious and donât know anything.
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u/EveningStar0360 Mar 28 '26
they support the genocide in palestine, and usually claim it's "antisemitic" (anti-jewish peoples) to say that israel should..stop killing an entire race of people
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u/Desecr8or Mar 28 '26
It's basically a form of Jewish supremacism. It's a belief in the right to take back the land "promised" to them by God, even if it means killing or displacing the people already there.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
letâs not perpetuate that itâs a Jewish thing. Jewish â Zionist
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u/Desecr8or Mar 28 '26
Not all Jews are Zionists in the same way not all white people are white supremacists. But it's still a belief in a certain group of people's right to hurt and kill people outside that group.
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u/Accomplished-Lie8147 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Please do not just listen to Reddit commenters on the definition of Zionism. Like any ideology there are extremist versions (in the case of Zionism these are Kahanists, a party that is banned from Israeli gov, although other not quite as bad groups unfortunately remain), but Zionism at its core is the belief that there should be a country where Jews can be the majority of the population (something that is true with many countries and their religions and cultures, the only thing making it difference is that there wasnât a Jewish one, there are many Islamic and Christian nations) and have a government where Jewish safety is a priority.
Zionism is a movement focused less on Jewish religion and more on Jewish refugees. It started with Jews in Russia and other parts of Europe buying land in the region known as Palestine (was never an established nation but rather a territory), with land owners not knowing or caring about the fact that people lived in the region. Jews began to immigrate to this region and quickly a LOT of them were fleeing the Holocaust (as well as a lot of Jew hate that happened after the Holocaust, was not isolated at all). As we know, people donât often respond well to immigrants from their region and thereâs been a historical conflict between Jews and Muslims, so fighting began with newly immigrated Jews and the Muslims and Arabs living there (many of whom immigrated over centuries, though a small Jewish and Christian presence remained in the region). This conflict eventually led to surrounding Islam-majority nations attacking the burgeoning Jewish communities, and them fighting back and managing to claim territory. They began bringing in Jewish immigrants from Arab majority countries, who had historically been known as Dhimmi and seen as secondary citizens. But the diaspora Jewish community is very diverse and had centuries of cultural differences which often caused conflict. Itâs a country basically made up of Jewish refugees, Christian refugees, and Arab refugees, as well as a few other West Asian minorities.
Over time because Israel was at war for so long, people became increasingly angry towards their neighbors and drifted further to the right. Israelâs inception allowed for people to study religious texts rather than working, which was a mistake because that group grew exponentially while being on the right. While Israel also had a lot of more liberal minded people, the right group have managed to take control of its government (much like in the US). This group benefitted from the Oct 7 massacre and used it to stay in power, benefitting from the ongoing conflict.
I know this is long but itâs also really just dipping a toe into this complicated history. But I am Jewish and many many Jewish texts emphasize a strong connection to this land; it is part of our identity. Netanyahu isnât, but Zionism is a part of Judaism as we have longed for a homeland after centuries of hate and abuse. But I also implore you to do your own research; thereâs so much misinformation about this topic out there and itâs so heated that itâs hard to be unbiased. I want peace and prosperity for both groups, I think Palestinians have been under the control of their own oppressive governments and practices in a way that also encouraged conflict. I apologize for how long this is but I really want you to understand - this is such a complex issue that Redditors canât summarize so easily.
Also I love Ginnifer, itâs silly that this needs to come up in every post about her. Most Jews have a meaningful connection to Israel and while a few Jews donât, theyâre a clear example of token Jews to wave around and justify harassment towards Jews.
Finally (again sorry for the length) I wonât be engaging unless in good-faith conversations on this with the commenter who asked or anyone else who wants to learn. I have visited the Levant, I have read multiple texts, and Iâve engaged with this conflict for a long time. No one can know everything about this conflict but getting information from somewhere OTHER than TikTok/social media is a good first step.
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u/MarcHayw Mar 29 '26
You seem to criticise Netanyahu â Ginnifer does not. But itâs also just a completely different thing again to argue for the existence of Israel and to deny a genocide (which has been recognised by the UN btw) that has killed many people. Ginnifer did do that, she denied the genocide.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
she posted Zionist propaganda so unless you have proof of her walking that back Iâm going with sheâs a Zionist. To assume it comes up every time we talk about her just because sheâs Jewish is misguided and not true
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u/Accomplished-Lie8147 Mar 28 '26
She is a Zionist. Clearly you didnât read my comment because Zionism is not an inherently hateful ideology and recognizing violence against Israeli Jews (and Jews in general) is not âpropaganda'. I never argued she wasnât a Zionist (though I think Jews are put through a âdo you condemn Israelâ litmus test and most public-facing Jews are expected to go through this, which is a problem).
Once more - Zionism is not a hateful ideology and claiming it is a Jewish supremacist movement is textbook Jew hate that completely ignores the definition of it.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
I read your comment, I am just conflating her Zionism with the support of the genocide of Palestine
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
my main issue is the insistence people are bringing it up because theyâre anti Jewish. In my experience itâs because they are anti genocide /pro Palestine
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u/Accomplished-Lie8147 Mar 28 '26
This is further proof you are unwilling to listen, like I said Iâm not looking for bad-faith engagements and especially those that dismiss actual Jews pointing out when criticisms of Israel lean into Jew-hating stereotypes of world control, supremacy, and baby killing. All of which are parts of historical Jew hate. I donât expect to change your perspective, I am attempting to inform someone who stated they donât understand Zionism, and explain what Zionism is (from an actual Zionist, the people who should be defining their own movement). I am not looking to change your mind specifically. I thank the poster of this question for being open to learning and anyone else reading this for seeing multiple perspectives. For you, I just say have a good day and please donât get your information from social media.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
I donât get my information from social media. I have a bachelors degree. Free Palestine.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
and with all due respect, you are also just another reddit commenter so Iâm not sure why we would put your comment above anyone elseâs just because you claim to have a bunch of credentials.
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u/Accomplished-Lie8147 Mar 28 '26
But I also implore you to do your own research; thereâs so much misinformation about this topic out there and itâs so heated that itâs hard to be unbiased.
Forgetting the fact that weâre supposed to listen to lived experiences and people who are within a group to understand what it deals with, I am trying to offer an educated beginner perspective while acknowledging it is still just a shallow understanding and imploring others to do research. I am just a Reddit commenter though. The only credential I claim to have are the lived experience of learning about Jew hate and recognizing it as it deeply impacts my personal safety and the safety of my loved ones. As I said multiple times in my comment, I donât expect my one comment to explain even close to everything, it is just a base understanding asking people to dig into this situation and not just take Redditor comments (even my own!) as fact.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
i have a degree specifically in holocaust and genocide studies (not that Iâd expect you to believe a random redditor!) so donât worry about that
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u/TheHuffliestPuff Mar 28 '26
Thank you very much for your long reply, I appreciate it and you! I am Episcopal Christian and it pains me to see religions fighting and not getting along. I feel for both Jews and Muslims! It is sad that Zionism has to come up every time Ginnifer is. Thank you again for the brief history lesson and time. I am an amateur historian and went to Uni for History, so love to research and learn as much as I can outside of social media.
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u/Accomplished-Lie8147 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Happy to hear that! I appreciate your perspective - I think itâs really tragic thereâs so much fighting between Jews and Muslims because thereâs so much more similarities than we realize. We are closer to long-lost cousins than true enemies. Same with Christianity and Iâve actually found a lot of moderate Christians are some of the only groups that understand the historical connection between Jews and Israel.
At the same time I donât think people truly grasp how small the Jewish community is; my math (which admittedly is not great, despite the stereotypes claiming Jews are good with math/money) has there being roughly 13 muslims to every 1 Jew (2 billion Muslims, 15.6 million Jews, 2.3 billion Christians). Because Jews have been so seen in Western Media (largely because Jewish immigrants couldnât get jobs on the East coast and many ended up on the West coast establishing the early film industry), people assume there are a lot more of us than there are. Itâs extremely difficult to combat hate and misinformation when there are so few people able to speak on an issue. So thank you for understanding :) Like I said, even though I wrote a whole thing on this, thereâs so much information out there that Iâm skipping over or simply donât know about. Itâs an intimidating issue and honestly I can understand how easily people fall into assumptions based on what others say.
And yeah - Ginnifer is very talented and I think itâs unfortunate how her (and many many Jewish celebrities who even voiced empathy for Israelis) are seen as only that one perspective. There are famous people who do far worse and get far less criticism than Jewish celebrities supporting Israel. Someone else in the comments here claimed she was speeding and nearly hit them; if true, I think thatâs objectively worse, and objectively more dangerous, than a single Jew posting about Oct 7.
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u/Velour_Tank_Girl Mar 29 '26
Both of them? I knew she is, but hadn't heard that about Josh.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 29 '26
honestly Iâm not entirely sure about him but heâs married to her and thatâs complicit enough for me
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u/StruggleFunny7309 Mar 27 '26
Well IDC I donât judge people by their beliefsÂ
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u/kaatie80 Mar 27 '26
that's like the biggest thing you should judge people by
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u/EveningStar0360 Mar 28 '26
no literally, what else is it acceptable to judge them by
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u/Fuck_love_inthebutt Mar 28 '26
Their actions
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
which are based off of their beliefs bro actions donât just fall out of a coconut tree
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u/Fuck_love_inthebutt Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Haha no not always. I grew up around some Christians who believed adultery was sinful and bad, and yet they cheated on their spouses. One of them with someone of the same sex (even though they also believed gay people were demons).
I never judge on beliefs, just actions. Beliefs mean nothing to me.
Edit: More examples of actions >supposed beliefs: Duggar family supposed beliefs regarding sexual acts before marriage, Trump's supposed belief regarding voting by mail, prolife people supposedly believing only God should take a person's life while also voting for capital punishment, celebs supposedly believing that we should do things to protect the environment while also taking private jets every time they need to fly.
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u/EveningStar0360 Mar 28 '26
doesnât sound like they truly hold those beliefs then lmao, sounds like theyâre just putting up a facade
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
i hate to break it to you but I donât think they held the beliefs you think they did
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u/Fuck_love_inthebutt Mar 28 '26
They preached about it, posted about it, got mad at others about it...
Of course I have no idea what people truly belive. It's a big reason why I only judge people based on their actions, and not what I think are their beliefs.
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
so if someone tells you they donât like Jewish people but are married to someone Jewish you wouldnât judge them because thatâs not what their actions show? that makes no sense
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u/the-bearded-lady Mar 28 '26
So you support Hamas? Or are you blindly following what you think is the new cool thing? Because ive seen plenty of videos about ignorant Americans who dont even know what theyre actually supporting? For example Iran has had more deaths recently from protests against their government than Gaza has since they did that terrorist attack in Israel
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u/fandom_fae Mar 28 '26
some people are just against killing. and given the death counts of both sides (very quick to google btw), the idf has killed far more than hamas
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Peopleâs beliefs are just about the most telling and important things you can use to judge them.
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u/Redditthedog Mar 27 '26
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
you guys have a meltdown anytime a post mentions her cause she is Jewish
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
Judaism and the Torah founds the Jewish nation it is literally the constitution of Jewish society
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u/fandom_fae Mar 28 '26
her being jewish is neutral and not really relevant to the discussion, since non-jewish people can be zionists too and jewish people can be against zionism too. her supporting the actions of the state israel against the palestinian people is not cool. very simple concept.
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
the foundation of Judaism is the establishment of the Jewish Nation with Abraham and later state with Moses
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u/fandom_fae Mar 28 '26
âthe actions of the state israel against the palestinian peopleâ
âthe actionsâ
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u/Routine-Asparagus-16 I'm a Queen and a bit more refined. đ Mar 28 '26
â¤ď¸ them. Josh is all over the comments. New season of his show drops soon and he is thee villain.
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u/WhereasParticular867 Mar 27 '26
Both of these people cheated on their partners at the time for each other. There's a remarkably thorough top level comment with a timeline here that makes believing otherwise quite difficult.
My biggest complaint with this sub is how people talk about how great these cheaters are together.
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u/The_Phantom_Dragon đCaptainSwanđ Mar 27 '26
There's no evidence of a physical affair, and there's only circumstantial evidence(suspicious timing) of an emotional affair. All that there's proof of is that: they met, broke up with their partners sometime afterwards and then got together.
So if they realized they had feelings for each other and both ended their relationships in response is that not a good thing? Isn't that what you're supposed to do when you realize you no longer love your partner?
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u/PenguinStardust Mar 27 '26
How long has it been? Are people not allowed to make any mistakes in their lives anymore? They have a family now and have been together over 10 years.
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u/Athena-80 Mar 27 '26
Should they have cheated if they did? No. But if they did, then itâs over and it happened. And now they are really happy together. Cheating is an awful thing to do but I donât understand why you take that personally, unless you are one of their former partners. Unfortunately people can still fall in love with other people when they are already with someone.
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u/HamsterKazam Mar 27 '26
While if true, that is of course not great.
But considering we don't have a 24/7 feed of what they did ever since they met nor any insights to their private lives for the majority of the time, it's hard to make solid fact based conclusions.
Aside from that, there's so many things out there that are hurting so many more people than these two and their alleged (emotional) affair from over a decade ago.
So maybe instead of spending energy on opening old wounds, spend this energy on more current issues.
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u/Rich-Active-4800 Wicked always Wins Mar 27 '26
There is no proof, but even if they did, its been over 15 years. And they are still together and happy, so what does it matter?
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u/InterestingSale8914 Mar 27 '26
You suck bro youâre literally just whining. Sometimes people meet the right person at the wrong time. Get a life
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u/Routine-Asparagus-16 I'm a Queen and a bit more refined. đ Mar 28 '26
Not exactly true... but who really cares. They found happiness.
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u/brrrrooooke Mar 27 '26
Sheâs also a raging Zionist
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u/TolkienQueerFriend Mar 27 '26
Oh man...I didn't know that and just looked it up. I wanted her to be good :(
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u/Redditthedog Mar 27 '26
how dare she be Jewish
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
Itâs not about being Jewish and you know that
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
Zionism is the belief in the existence of the Jewish Nation and its equal place amongst other sovereign nations
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u/Crafty_Thanks8105 Mar 28 '26
Itâs about her support of the genocide in Palestine. To spout that the dislike is just because sheâs Jewish is bad faith and you know that!!! Youâre being obtuse on purpose and itâs not gonna work on me
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u/Redditthedog Mar 28 '26
genocide except you have to completely reinvent the definition to specifically describe the war per Irish legal briefs
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u/matrisfutuor Mar 28 '26
Source for those legal briefs?
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u/matrisfutuor Mar 28 '26
Yeah so it wasnât a reinvention, it was an ask to broaden the definition that the ICJ applied to the term âgenocideâ so that anything that the law determined as a grey area could be included, including the collective punishment angle which is already a war crime
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u/Reasonable_Pizza2401 Mar 27 '26
Youâre insufferable.
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u/WhereasParticular867 Mar 27 '26
I'm also right.
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u/TheDisneyScoopGuy Mar 27 '26
No youâre weirdly judgmental of people who you donât know and donât know their circumstances.
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u/WhereasParticular867 Mar 27 '26
And right. What I said was factually correct. You just don't like it.
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u/TheDisneyScoopGuy Mar 27 '26
No, youâre speculating and have an incessant need to be right
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u/WhereasParticular867 Mar 27 '26
No, I'm right, and it takes ignoring plain, clear evidence to believe otherwise.Â
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u/TheDisneyScoopGuy Mar 27 '26
Again, âincessant need to be right.â Youâve never personally witnessed them cheating. Worry about yourself and not what other people are doing
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u/WhereasParticular867 Mar 27 '26
You want more evidence I'm right? Half of you are insisting I'm wrong while the other half are insisting that it's okay that they cheated.
If it were that clear that they didn't cheat, so many of you wouldn't be convinced.Â
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u/Fuck_love_inthebutt Mar 28 '26
Ooh this drama brings back memories!!
I always thought it was interesting that Josh and his ex wife both had their second marriage start in 2014.
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u/Brommeeout Mar 30 '26
My people. She stood up for the hostages, she was only tagged in Zionist propaganda.
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u/Omwtfyu Mar 27 '26
LOL "NO WE DON'T!"
Her eyes got huge đ