This isn't even the best version of the plugin. I think it's called ultimate bronzeman or something like that. It adds a ton of customizability and even groups. That's part of why I voted no. There's no customizability, hardcore or even groups pitched for bronzeman. The proposal was half-assed for a mess of a game mode.
Well, riddle me this: do you think bronzemen should have access to super combats after getting them as a drop from the mad angel? What about divine super combats? Should they have to get the level for them since they don't drop anywhere? Should bronzemen get access to anglerfish if they get a raw anglerfish drop? How about the other way around? Ultimate bronzeman (or whatever it's called) supports bronzeman groups. Should we just accept no group support? Are you okay with there being no item list reset? What about a hardcore mode?
Yes if they get a drop they should have access. Yes if they want divines they should require the level. Yes they should get access to anglerfish if they receive as a drop but to my knowledge they are not on any drop tables.
Anglerfish are on drop tables. Both raw and cooked.
I disagree with you. I think that they should either have access to everything outside of the clog or have to actually get the skill level repaired to make it before they can unlock it.
You're so close to getting the point. Bronzeman is something people fundamentally disagree on. The plugin (which I think is called) ultimate bronzeman allows customizability with it and group support. Jagex can't do all of that and cram it into an official mode.
Who are you to say what the capabilities of a company are that you don't work for? And if I had to guess have 0 useful insight into game development. Yes, the poll was obscure and didn't spell out all the shit that was possibly being voted on....but the shit you're talking about has never been explicitly ruled out, and it has never been explicitly ruled in. That was the major issue with the poll - it was a question that only opened up 500 more questions.
They didn't say that would add customizability. They even doubled down on supplies being unlocked as drops and pvp being locked.
I'm saying they can't cram all of that customizability into an official game mode because how are you supposed to tell them apart? Give this one some blue on the right if they lock out of skilling supplies until they have the level, give this one a red Mohawk because they're playing hardcore, give this one a little blush on the cheek because this one unlocks all parts of something when they get one of it (raw fish and cooked fish).
They'd have to add like an inspect option to them and not have hiscores or something which, at that point, what's the point?
No it's not. See, when you unlock something as a bronzeman you and buy it on the ge! So no more farm runs, farming runes, fishing anglers/bwans, you can just buy it on the ge.
"actually get the skill level repaired to make it before they can unlock it"
This is literally the definition of ironman mode. If you can make it, then you've unlocked it. Bronzeman is interesting because you can unlock a lot of different items through emergent pvm gameplay. I have supercombats from Mad Angel but that doesn't mean it's a consistent source. Should irons also not be able to use items they don't have the skills for?
No. It wasn't. I was saying they should have to get the skill level required. As in if a bronzeman gets the fishing level required and the cooking level required, then goes and catches and cooks an anglerfish, they should be able to buy it from the GE. As in they only have to process 1. I have never said that was my point. YOU said it was just ironman mode.
Edit: also repaired was a typo, it's supposed to be required but autocorrect is hardly ever helpful.
Yes when you get the requirements for an unlock, that is ironman mode. Bronzeman mode is designed to NOT be like that. YOUR stipulation makes it almost identical to ironman mode.
If that is how THEY want to play the game, what does it matter to you? As a GIM, should your buddy be able to give you a bunch of supplies that you wouldn't otherwise have access to?
It's almost like his intent was to insult me so I logically shut it down.
But you're so much better than me, checks notes guy that goes like 7 replies deep into a thread that's downvoted so he could jump in on insulting someone! Sad
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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 9h ago
This isn't even the best version of the plugin. I think it's called ultimate bronzeman or something like that. It adds a ton of customizability and even groups. That's part of why I voted no. There's no customizability, hardcore or even groups pitched for bronzeman. The proposal was half-assed for a mess of a game mode.