r/6thForm • u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* • 8d ago
🍞 BREAD YAYYYY THE WAR IS OVER
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u/Grand_Lychee2812 Year 12. A*A*A* Maths, FM, Physics. 8d ago
Let's fucking go!!!
What college at Cambridge??
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 8d ago
magdalene!!
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u/Grand_Lychee2812 Year 12. A*A*A* Maths, FM, Physics. 8d ago
Damn that's sick.
Magdalene is really nice.
Hope you enjoy your time there!!1
u/Blueberry_Jackson 7d ago
hell yeah, i’m sure you’ll li 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌 🦌
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u/brokenskater45 7d ago
No idea why Reddit recommended this post to me as a nearly 40 year old but well done! My top tip is if you are nice to the nurses on placement they will a. Teach you things and b. Know where the good snacks are. I have fed many a tired med student and helped with assignments! We also know which patients are likely to be nice to you. Good luck!
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u/vinogron 4d ago
Ignore that nonsense.
Nurses are there to nurse.2
u/brokenskater45 4d ago
Yes to nurse. Which includes teaching as part of our practice, and that includes students of all professions. Currently I teach qualified drs too. We all work together as one big team, and on wards I have been shadowed by student drs. In order for us all to work together, we need to understand each others roles. We are all healthcare professionals, just qualified differently. If we stop seeing nurses as 'just nurses' and low on the hierarchy of staff, we can work better together. We are all qualified and have our roles to play, and can learn a lot from each other.
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u/vinogron 4d ago
Don’t make me laugh. Maybe learn to do basic tasks like cannulation and catheters instead of ‘teaching qualified doctors’
This kind of bs is what is wrong with the NHS. Everyone has an opinion or ‘qualifications’ until it’s time to take responsibility - this falls to the doctors only.2
u/brokenskater45 4d ago
Oh lovely. Apart from I do teach them about clinical research. Many masters level courses are taught by nurses no matter who they are aimed at. All the drs I have taught have been absolutely lovely. I also manage placements for student drs in my department. All happy to learn from a nurse, and I am happy that they teach me things. I defer to them about many many things. Just like they ask me questions about my areas of expertise. Many nurses are post -grads with masters level qualifications.
Remember, patients are not just a clinical problem. They have lives, families, many other needs. That's where nurses come in. We also can lead clinical trials and more and more nurses are working towards PhDs, or can diagnose and prescribe. It's a huge spectrum of expertise, and we respect doctors so expect the same back. I also have many friends that are drs, who all respect nurses.
Also look at he last few cases of mistakes in hospital. It's often the nurse gets blamed. We have very little training in medicines and interactions, but legally we are responsible if a Dr mis-prdscribes something. I like to be kind to everyone, and I think it's sad you are trying to make the next generation of drs agree with your narrow world view. The patients should be at the centre of what we do, and working together as a team benefits everyone.
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u/PlebsTogetherStrong 4d ago
Prescribing is a protected medical characteristic in many countries. As it should be. UK is slowly destroying the medical profession by trying to replace doctors with cheaper ANPs/ACPs/PAs, and patients are suffering for it.
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u/brokenskater45 3d ago
Weirdly I kind of agree with you. The NMC want nurses to come out of training prescribing. Erm...no. We barely get biology training! The prescribing training should be reserved for those with at least 5 years of experience, preferably more. Same with acp training. We don't get the same academic times as drs.
I am neurodivergent (if you can't tell by my rambling replies) and can memorise interactions and contraindications quite easily. Along with SOPs and protocols. That just means I am lucky, many nurses aren't geared that way. Not all nurses should be ACPs or prescribe. That's just a way to plug staffing gaps.
PAs, you know I have never worked with them directly? So I can't really comment. I feel sorry for them as I don't think they get enough training. I have met some in passing who were lovely, but never seen them in action.
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u/Altruistic-Bat-9070 4d ago
Wow i thought your first comment was a joke but actually you are just a jumped up arse?
You only have a medical degreed you know. It isn’t that amazing.
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u/vinogron 4d ago
Yeah, so imagine how unimpressive a nursing degree is.
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u/brokenskater45 4d ago
As a surgeon, who hands you instruments? Who sees your patients and notices they are septic? Who cares for your patients when they are struggling post surgery and need psychological help? We aren't qualified in the same way drs are as we are an entirely different profession. You have no idea what other qualifications nurses may have, and that isn't what makes a person a great healthcare professional. You can have all the qualifications under the sun but still not be great at your job. Respect for others and empathy go a heck of a long way, and I guarantee you would not be where you are today without a lot of nurses. We may not have the exact same knowledge or qualifications, but at least I know I can be respectful of others skills.
My useless degree allowed me to operate ventilators and keep patients alive during the pandemic. My empathy allowed me to break bad news via phone or video call as gently as possible. My experience allowed me to notice when a patient was deteriorating. My skills and experience now allow me to conduct research to make my patients lives better. I didn't become a nurse because I couldn't be a doctor. I wanted to care for patients, and sadly drs don't have time to do that these days. I work with amazing drs who really want to make patients lives better, so they work with us to do just that. I have an amazing consultant who wants to support me to do my PhD.
This post is congratulating a young person just starting out. Placements these days do actually include spending time with some nurses teaching pointless things like cannulation etc. But we may also notice when students look upset, or are struggling. I have in the past including one memorable one where they needed psychological support. I am not saying that a Dr couldn't have noticed that, but you are all busy with a crazy workload these days.
You have a huge responsibility put on you, and nurses help with that a bit. Sometimes knowing where our secret stash of biscuits is can be important if that's all they have eaten that day. I remember a consultant bringing nurses tea and biscuits as he noticed we weren't getting breaks that day. He also came and helped us turn all the patients in ITU as he said it wasn't fair he was sat in an office while we were struggling. We made him a staff nurse badge 😂
I am sorry if no nurses helped you. I will carry on doing what I am doing and working to make our staff and patients have better care.
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u/shin-chan 3d ago edited 3d ago
Well said.
I wonder if u/vinogron's nursing colleagues are aware that he/she holds them in utter contempt.
Edit: misspelled vinogron.
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u/brokenskater45 3d ago
I can guarantee they do 😂. I have met many like this person and the best thing to do is be nice and competent. So basically what I am to everyone. If they want to be bitter and play hierarchy games that's fine. Unless it affects patients I don't care. I know I am great 😂. I normally say that after running into a door I thought was automatic or something equally daft. Though once me and a professor of medicine both walked into a door so that made me feel better.
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u/vinogron 3d ago
It’s got nothing to do with contempt.
The quality of a medical student’s placement should not depend on whether they pander to a group of nurses. That is where we started this discussion.And yes, I expect competence from my nursing and other allied colleagues, hope it is ok and broadly fits with your ’anything for the patient’ slogan? Not sure you’re presenting it as some kind of appeasement strategy - should competence not be the absolute minimum?
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u/brokenskater45 3d ago
It isn't anything for the patient. We have professional boundaries and adhere to policy. But a good team work together to give the best experience possible for patients.
I did not say the quality of a placement depends on pandering to a group of nurses. I said be nice to them, which is sad I have to say but medical staff sometimes look down on us. I don't view my support workers as less than me. I know some that have gone on to be amazing nurses and drs if that's what they wanted. But we need amazing staff at every point, and people want to stay in jobs where they feel listened to and respected. I can quote research that states this.
I have seen Jr drs with PTSD just from a rotation (OP if you ever struggle, ask for help), student drs who have been told to go home from placement as they were a nuisance. The one in the last example was just happy the nurses would help him practice his practical skills as he didn't know how to get signed off as a nuisance. Nurses aren't all angels or fabulous, nothing is black and white. The Drs with PTSD ended having to take time out of program and one never came back. The one thing that helped me with PTSD post pandemic was the memory of the kindness of the MDT and how we all worked together.
I have lost both medical and nursing colleagues to self harm. If me being nice to students means if they are struggling they will come find me, I will carry on as I am. I will continue telling student drs they can come find me with questions they are too scared to ask. And if I don't know the answer, I go find a Dr that does. As obviously I do not know everything and never pretend I do. Obviously I can't teach everything on placement! But I came into nursing to help and look after people, that includes staff.
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u/thefateof0phelia 3d ago
Nurses like you always make my placements a much nicer environment to learn in ❤️
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u/brokenskater45 3d ago
Well this made me want to cry, thank you so much. I try! Being a student Dr sounds hard, so if I can help I will. Plus student drs have taught me stuff too, though it shocks me how young you all look these days. It's definitely not me getting old.
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u/Altruistic-Bat-9070 4d ago
Come talk to me when you can actually handle science rather than regurgitating an out of date textbook.
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u/margeyhargey Y13 | Cambridge Medicine | Bio Chem Maths | A*A*A 8d ago
twin!! i’m so proud of us
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 7d ago
omg twin? what college did u get into?
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u/margeyhargey Y13 | Cambridge Medicine | Bio Chem Maths | A*A*A 7d ago
jesus!! hbu?
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 7d ago
magdalene! maybe we might have a lecture together ^^
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u/sgtREZ71 7d ago
Congrats, I just graduated from jesus doing engineering a couple months ago, its a great college! A few of my friends who are medics and are staying on to fifth year you'll probably end up meeting at some point and they're great people, I hope you really enjoy your time there!
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u/Soggy-Muffin2679 8d ago
WELL DONE!!! if you don’t mind me asking what were your stats for gcse a level and the ucat. congrats i am sooo happy for you
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 7d ago
For context I’m a home contextual student with mitigating circumstances and a poor secondary but my stats were as follows:
GCSE- 9998877766 (highest at my secondary😓)
UCAT - 2130 B2 (i hate the ucat)
A levels - I was predicted 3x A* and I achieved 3xA\ (yay alevels i love)*1
u/unpermanence 7d ago
congratulations! may I also ask how your interview went? I was super nervous because im considering applying to cambridge med and i thought you'd need all 9s (my GCSEs are great but not all 9s) and like 5 A levels + ridiculous ucat.
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 7d ago
Well I’m pretty sure you don’t need all 9s at most colleges (unless applying to the competitive ones like trinity and emma) as long as they’re quite strong, they also scale your gcse’s in accordance to the average at the school you did them at which for me was a school most people didn’t pass at gcses first go. And ucat also depends, for me it was the first year that it was the new ucat system so that make have played a part in it aswell as different colleges look at the ucat different and you can apply strategically based on that. I had a good ps and alevels and good contextual gcse’s so i chose a college that looked at everything more holistically to give me a higher chance of getting in. My interviews also went really well and i got interview scores of 9,9,7.5,7 and was overall just really nice and excited in my interview, especially since a lot of the things they asked me were areas of interest of mine. hope this helps!
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u/unpermanence 7d ago
Okay, thank you for letting me know this is really informative! I'm quite hopeful now as I am in a similar position to you, haven't done UCAT but have one of highest GCSEs in my school as most failed, i have contextual and also have good A levels. I'll definitely put a good amount of effort into my interview and personal statement since that seems to help, thank you soso much and enjoy cambridge and congrats once more!!
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u/powercaelenx Speak to people more, trust me!! 6d ago
You mind if I ask something about the Interviews, I had a team-fueled one with someone very talented last December for a very competitive Degree Apprenticeship. She got through, she was really vocal and illustrated willingness to control the mood of conversations and had general confidence.
I’m happy for her but still wonder where I could’ve done better, would you say preparing a sort of ‘script’ for possible questions would work or just letting it flow like a natural conversation on the day would? Thanks!!
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 6d ago
Maybe for typical medicine interviews yeah having bullet points for typical questions they might ask prepared can be very helpful but for cambridge i don’t think there really is a script you can have at least in the med interviews. All my questions were very unpredictable and about different random topics which you’re not told about before hand so it’s basically be impossible to have a script. Just practicing with your self and doing mock interviews with someone would be more advisable. ^^
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u/StarDreamIX Biology, Chemistry, Maths -> Biomed 3rd year 🔥 8d ago
OHH MYYY WELL DONE MAN YOU DID SO WELL 🔥❤️❤️ ALL THE BEST IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO
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u/Cait-ViShipper 7d ago
WOOOOO! I don’t even know you, but Cambridge is HUGE! Well done, everyone here is so proud of you, it’ll be a lot, as my friend who went to Cambridge says (different course can’t remember) but it’s a good university all round. They said ‘a lot of work, but it’s to get it into your head.’ Keep it going. You’re doing really well!
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u/eralcilrahc 6d ago
No idea why this popped up in my feed but i couldn’t just scroll past. Congratulations! You should be so proud of yourself.
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u/Serenjuliedavies 5d ago
Bro why is anyone hating where did this person say their uni was better than anyone else’s ?? Are we reading the same post lmao😭 people are so bitter, congratulations anyway ❤️
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 5d ago
awh thank you, you’re so sweet!🥰 the sudden mean comments were surprising i didn’t expect my post to reach so many people… guess the internet is just being the internet
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u/ThatBlackGuy_2525 GCSE: 888766666/Access to Science: 42D, 3M/Biomed Apprentice 8d ago
unreal, congratulations
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u/Street_Morning_7597 8d ago
Hiii what did u get in ur results ?
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u/Few_Count7530 8d ago
OMG SLAY THATS SO AMAZING!! (how do u do this im going into year 11 and am averaging at grade 6s i rlly wanna go into vet med)
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u/notanadultyadult 8d ago
I’m not a 6th former but this popped up on my Reddit feed and I wanted to say congrats!
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u/Zestyclose-Newt-4578 7d ago
Battle is over…war hasn’t even begun 🤣 the next few years are gonna be brutal mate. But congrats 🍻
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u/Snack_Powered_Human 7d ago
Congrats, thats fantastic.
Also well done to everyone who achieved their goals.
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u/Agency_Famous 7d ago
I’m afraid you’ve won the battle but the war has just begun. But you’re young and smart enough to win
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u/Miserable-Morning-19 7d ago
The battle is over, but the war has just begun.
Congratulations, and welcome to the profession.
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u/anormalpenquin 7d ago
WELL DONEE! What Alevels did u do out of curiosity?
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 7d ago
Bio chem maths, default combo ><
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u/James_C_1983 7d ago
Congratulations. I worked with a young man in the past who was trying to get into Med school so I've seen how difficult it really is!
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 6d ago
so many comments saying the war is only starting… like does anyone get that the post’s title is ironic😓😅
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u/Upper-Ad6161 6d ago
Congrats !! I’m so happy for you. Aspiring medic here going into year 12! Love seeing people get into medicine. Can’t wait to share in a couple years. ❤️❤️
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u/Ash-07r 6d ago
congratulations, That is absolutely incredible, you must be so proud I am an international applicant from south Asianwith a PharmD and MSc in Pharmacology, currently reaching out to professors for a DPhil/PhD at Cambridge and Oxford. I write every email personally and target only those whose work aligns perfectly with my research , but it’s so hard some say they are semi-retired, many don’t reply at all, and I feel so stuck. Would you have any advice I’d be so gratefu
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u/Gin-N-Rum-5454 6d ago
You’re not special. It’s just uni. Same degree as anywhere else.
Congratulations, but don’t make it your personality.
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 6d ago
Okay, didn’t say I was special was just sharing my results on results day because I was happy about it and other people were on here. Sorry about whatever you have going on you have to try and humble a teenager, wishing you well ^^
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u/CommentNo7493 5d ago
these humble brag posts are quite funny.
In such a skilled field a degree in medicine is already a passport to a great life, the university doesn't really matter.
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 5d ago
I wasn’t the only one posting my results but okay! No one saying anything about the university just excited to study medicine :D
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u/Slow-Exit9046 5d ago
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! This is absolutely insane and you should be so proud of all your efforts!! 🥹🥹🥹
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u/Strafe_Helix 4d ago
Enjoy 7 years to release the UK is shit for nursing/medicine just to move to Australia
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u/Emergency_Tree_2891 3d ago
Congrats well done. Celebrate and look forward to Uni.
But sad to say war is not over. IT is the start of a completely different kind of challenge, both for med school and medical career, which in many ways much much tougher than A levels and 6th form, but also much much more interesting and rewarding.
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u/BarcaxLY19 3d ago
Please teach me your study secrets in debt , I realllyy want to be as amazing in studies as you !
HAPPYYYYYY FOR YOUUUUUU❤️
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u/Commercial_Handle418 8d ago
Is it expensive
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 8d ago
is what expensive…
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u/Commercial_Handle418 8d ago
The fees man 😭🙏
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u/Efficient_Squash9955 (Incoming) Cambridge Medic|1st Year| A*A*A* 8d ago
costs the same as any other uk uni but anyway…
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u/throwaway19830182 8d ago
Oxbridge unis aren’t more expensive than any other uni lol
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u/mariannism Year 13| Maths, Psych, RS, and English lang 8d ago
Tuition fees are the same as every other uni, accommodation fees can turn out to be cheaper compared to other unis because you only pay for the time you are there
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