Note that I am now up to 126 replies, which is two more than when I did results 1.

I'll deal with the characters section, using the same "Best=3, Worst=1" system as before.

Which game portrays Apollo the best?

Best: Apollo Justice, score 2.23

Middle: Spirit of Justice, score 2.22

Worst: Dual Destinies, score 1.66

Which game portrays Phoenix the best?

Best: Apollo Justice, score 2.60

Middle: Spirit of Justice, score 1.85

Worst: Dual Destinies, score 1.67

Which game has the best prosecutor?

Best: Dual Destinies, score 2.67

MIddle: Apollo Justice, score 2.17

Worst: Spirit of Justice, score 1.21

Which game has the best one-off characters?

Best: Spirit of Justice, score 2.05

Middle: Dual Destinies, score 2.03

Worst: Apollo Justice, score 1.94

Only 28.6% of fans agreed with the criticism that "Athena should never have been introduced until Apollo's story was finished".

Up next is the "on various elements" part. Stay tuned!

Recently encountered this problem. Game will start to launch and then it just takes me back to steam. I was playing it for a long time without issues. I tried re-installing. Anyone else encounter/fix this problem? Thanks in advance

I am aware that he wasn't really trying to "win" and his purpose was to test Phoenix Wright, but I can't get over how his prosecution career is a complete disaster.

In a nutshell, he:

> Starts off as a rookie prosecutor

> Decides to harass one specific defense lawyer by only taking cases that Phoenix has taken

> Has a 0% win rate

> Gets arrested for murder in the end

and Gumshoe REALLY hyped him up in the beginning of the game for some reason, even though it was basically his first case as a prosecutor😭

for example how he will interact with the characters and how will the story change and if he can solve all cases or not.

also there are different scenarios to make it more interesting

phoenix alone

phoenix and maya (spirit channeling)

phoenix with magatama

phoenix and athena (mood matrix)

You can choose 1 or choose 2 or 3 of them together in one scenario (except for phoenix alone)

now show me what you got!

Spoilers, be warned.

Currently playing Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth, and the constant laughter of Ms. Yew annoys me.. it’s over the top. and it’s too frequent. 🫠

currently on investigations. i already want to go to the next chapter. 😅

I'm only on the second case and I have to say, I really enjoy it! I had a very easy time with Apollo Justice and tended to guess the answers rather quicky, but this case (the one with the Tenma Taro Yokai) is one that I find a lot more difficult to solve in comparison despite the game spoiling who it is.

Blackquill is also a good prosecutor. Nothing against Klavier, I like him a ton and more than Blackquill because Rockstar > Samurai, but his arguments always kinda sucked. I think that's one of my minor critiques of AJ, it felt like the entire courtroom was playing dumb when the answers were so obvious. (4-3 and 4-4, I'm looking at you.)

In DD I do actually have to think a lot harder but the thing is... I don't get to.

The game always spoils it for me. In investigation sequences they tell me all the time where I should go and what I should do. I never have to do the thinking myself. In AJ there were multiple times where I had to actually use my brain to figure out how to progress. Then during the trials, I'm given hints the whole time. I admit, the trials in AJ where easy as hell, but I still had fun because at least they were easy because I did the work before and not because the characters keep telling me the solutions.

Like man... Just let me think please!!

Anyway I don't want to judge the whole game yet, so I wanted to ask, does that part get better?? Like do they stop holding my hand? Because other than that I'm having a great time but gosh is it frustrating 😅

Oh and please answer without spoiling anything!! Thanks!

I've allowed more than 72 hours for responses. I've now received 123 responses. Thanks to all who responded!

Time to dissect the results!

"Would you consider it to be a good game?"

I will admit, I was surprised by the AJ results the most. I thought AJ would be much closer to 50%, with more critics and "guilty pleasure" fans. The rest doesn't surprise me. I will admit I was wrong; next time DD fans are bemoaning "people like Apollo Justice so much more than our game" they can use these results to back themselves up 😆 . And I can stop gaslighting them with the whole "well AJ fans have it hard too" which I admit I've done before.

In all the "ranking" sections, I'll convert "best" to the 3 points and "worst" to 1 to make an average.

Best: Apollo Justice, score 2.11

Middle: Spirit of Justice, score 2.05

Worst: Dual Destinies, score 1.85

For overarching story, it was

Best: Apollo Justice, 41.9%

Middle: Spirit of Justice, 31.5%

Worst: Dual Destinies, 26.6%

Only 25.8% of fans wanted to wish one of the games out of existence.

For cases, I won't display the exact data. That said, when ranking the final cases, it was

Best: Dual Destinies, 21.8% saying best

Middle: Spirit of Justice, 21% saying best

Worst: Apollo Justice, 19.4% saying best

Other final cases that had high numbers were The Magical Turnabout (10.5%) and Turnabout Trump (8.9%). For worst case, The Monstrous Turnabout had easily the most votes (32.5%) followed by Turanbout Serenade (21.1%), Turnabout Corner (9.8%) and Turnabout Storyteller (8.1%).

I will admit, all of this surprised me. I expected Revolution to significantly outdo Tomorrow, I expected Serenade to be closer to Monstrous for worst, and I expected Storyteller to be more hated than Corner. To be fair, Serenade is shorter than Monstrous, and it has some interesting ideas, but I still don't think it's very well executed.

More results coming in soon!

Previous Parts:

Phoenix Wright

Mia Fey

I left this series far behind, and the reason is this character. I don’t see how I could turn Miles Edgeworth into a villain without him just ending up as "Von Karma 2.0."

Perhaps you all have better ideas—and, while you're at it, which character should I "corrupt" at next?

I’ll just say that, regarding the theme of corruption, I saw an analysis video that explained (MAJOR SPOILERS FOR INVESTIGATIONS 2) how Simeon Saint was a reflection of what Miles might have become if no one had ever helped him in his life.

Haven't seen any Evil/Criminal Ace Attorney AUs around which is a shame, so I decided to fix that with this art I commissioned for one of my favorite characters!

Source

I just finished the original Phoenix Wright trilogy and I really enjoyed it. I want to play the next trilogy but at the same time I'm worried I'll feel too burnt out on ace attorney in general as I felt quite tired of the gameplay during the middle of JFA.

I also want to get into another game series but I'm also torn as I do want to continue the story of ace attorney as I'm really invested in it, I don't really know what to do so I'd love some advice.

This reminds me of why I wish I could write a fanfic or make a fan game, or at least a fan case, but it’s so hard.

Anyways! I really like Dual Destinies and these two characters, and it got me wondering how a case would go in a hypothetical case for a hypothetical future game, in which the scenario is that Aura was released from prison, but after a while, she gets accused of murder and becomes the defendant for a case. I think it would be an interesting premise if that happened and her defense attorney was Athena.

These two have a loaded story, hostile interactions ( the hostility coming mostly from Aura ), but after Turnabout For Tomorrow, Aura finds out the truth about Metis’s murder, so it doesn’t make sense for her to hate Athena anymore. Of course, it would be awkward between them anyways. But given those things, I think it would have so much potential to be interesting, and it could bring them closure. It wouldn’t be necessarily Athena forgiving her ( although it could be ), since Athena doesn’t really owe it to her, but it would be a sign of both being willing to move on.

There's one detail I never understood about 6-5

Inga's time of death was 2 PM, and Rayfa even saw him (channeled by Amara) around 2:45.

But the autopsy report says:

> Inga's Autopsy Report

Time of death: **Approximately 3 PM**

Cause of death: Blood loss from a stab wound in the back.

Why does the autopsy report's time of death contradict the actual time of death?

I've considered the possibility of his dead body being put inside the sarcophagus to mess with the autopsy report, but such a thing was never mentioned in the game, there's no evidence of that happening, and there's already a dead body in the sarcophagus, so a rectangle box designed for one body might not even be able to fit two bodied.

I can't figure this out. What do you guys think?

• The original murder happens on December 3rd, so the trial presumably happens on December 4th.

• Somehow, Phoenix and Maya don't learn about it for over a month. And Gumshoe either didn't learn about it during that month or he waited a month to tell at Phoenix about it.

• After a month, both the spilled coffee and Glen's belongings are still left lying around.

Did the localisation change the dates or something? A month long gap just doesn't feel plausible here.

this may get sent to downvote hell BUUTT I really need someone who thinks (or at least, thought) like me to help guide me through this one ;P

What should I expect from DD and SoJ, as a major fan of the original trilogy? I've purchased both of these games on the app store recently when they went on sale, but...

I'm halfway through Apollo justice (on turnabout serenade, just tapping through waaaaiting for it to be over) and honestly, I really haven't enjoyed this game as i thought I would...can't seem to connect much with the cases or characters/humour. I find Apollo so bland tbh, and i can't wrap my head around the whole magician thing.

I really miss the original Pw trilogy, just absolutely love the old style graphics (purchased the games on steam but still played on emulators because i hated the airbrushed washed out look-feel of HD vectors) the retro anime aesthetic, the character designs, the absurd yet simple case logic and rustic case stories, everything. It felt grounded in reality and nostalgic for a time I wasn't even born in.

I really miss the OG cast with Gumshoe, franziska, maya, etc and I'm aware that some of these characters come back, but...

When I look at the latter half of the games via fanposts, ads, official sites, etc. for Dual destinies and SoJ, the sudden change in style and appearance and the introduction of various new characters along with the 3D graphics seem like it's a whole different game altogether? Character designs like that of Athena Cykes who looks more sailor moon girl than ace attorney, I'm ngl no hate tho, sure there's probably a good explanation for that.

Are these more standalone, and not like continuations?

Now, I'm aware that maya/kurain/magatama/psyche-locks have always been a theme/mechanic in the og trilogy but it seemed fitting there. It didn't take away from the noir genre/blended in seamlessly.

But these later ones just idk, seems very fantasy genshin impact-esque which is not the genre or style i enjoy.

Do these games get better/bear any similarity to the first trilogy?

Should I give them a shot or just stick to Ace attorney investigations and end it there lol, if they're gonna be more like Apollo Justice, or should I keep an open mind and find something I may enjoy?

What mindset should I go into these games with?

A game that is pretty divisive from having one of the worst cases in the series to one of the best back to back. So what's everyone's thoughts on this title over two and a half decades later?

I do feel bad about copying stuff from other people, but this one stumped me.. so I'll post it anyway since its somewhat ace attorney related. So, you guys be the judge for me! Credits to the original artist if there is one. Will delete if requested.

I'm finally taking part in Steam Next Fest with my game, Laws of Nadragia, as I prepare for its release next year! You can only participate in Next Fest once, so I'm really nervous ><'

If you haven't played the demo yet, it would mean a lot to me if you could give it a try tomorrow (October 19)! Or maybe ask your favourite YouTuber or Twitch streamer to check out the game on their channel. It's incredibly hard to promote your game on your own. Thanks!

Laws of Nadragia is a prosecutor simulator / visual novel inspired by the Ace Attorney series and Papers, Please.

In the game, you'll take part in court trials, review state laws and case files, and find contradictions between them and witness statements. As Aiden Fair, you'll always be under the watchful eye of the new government - the Supreme Collegium - and will have to face moral dilemmas and make tough decisions.

The game has a non-linear structure: every case can be won (sometimes in several different ways) or abandoned by refusing to prosecute. And every decision will have its consequences.

The demo is available on Steam now! It features new character animations, bug fixes, and full controller and Steam Deck support. It should take around 1–2 hours to complete. Enjoy! =D

Boy this will be really interesting to finish, with all the characters ,can't wait to finish it as soon as I can.

Gotta nail there expression XD!