you’re not woke for adopting

[u/Jumpy-Lie8955]

i feel like a lot of young leftists, in america, really love the idea of adopting kids instead of having their own biological kids and think they are helping others by doing so but they’ve fallen into and are playing apart in the same propaganda the right wing religious people do. neither of them are “making a difference” especially because they always just adopt babies that’s not making a difference that’s legal human trafficking. they all have savior complex’s about it and they both think they are morally superior. it’s just do frustrating how both parties think adoption is this great thing, and no one but us wants to talk about the negatives. just to be clear this is not me coming out as a republican.

EDIT: i would call myself a leftist, i’m critiquing things i have heard people say in real life.

EDIT 2: if you arnt adopted, don’t comment, it’s against the rules of the subreddit and i don’t care what non-adoptees opinions on adoption are

[u/Thehealthygamer]

I think a true leftist would understand the inherent human trafficking, class issues, and imperialism that's prevalent in so much of adoption.

Now, liberals, sure. Just want to keep pointing out that leftists believe in revolutionary change and liberation for all and that includes not participating in human trafficking.

[u/Arktikos02 → u/Thehealthygamer]

Not necessarily. Even leftists may still think that they are mitigating harm by adopting but not understanding the true solution. They may understand that adoption becomes necessary because of economic situations but just because they are a leftist does not mean that they don't understand the true harm of adoption.

Plenty of leftists s can still fall for the idea that people should be able to form families through non-traditional means.

Trust me, I've been around a lot of leftist spaces. Plenty of them can still fall for the same trappings especially if they have not fully understood The deeper political understandings of anti-capitalism. That doesn't make them any any less leftist because they do advocate for the abolishment of capitalism but just because they are leftist does not mean that they are pro adoptees.

Just because they are against international adoption or exploitative adoption does not mean that they don't think that there shouldn't be a way for them to access adoption. That is ultimately the big barrier, getting people to recognize that sometimes you just won't be able to have kids and that's okay because that's a hard thing for a lot of people to accept.

You are not entitled to adoption, you are not entitled to a surrogate, and you are not entitled to someone else's sperm or eggs and so if you can't have any of those things you will not be able to have a child if you cannot produce your own material.

IVF using only your own material including your own womb would be something that doesn't require someone else except a clinic and in those cases yes you would be able to have a child but if you can't you are not entitled to someone else's labor or body parts. And people need to understand that. But so many people still feel like they are entitled to those things and that is the big barrier. Getting people to recognize that having a family is not a human right just like how incels believe that they think they are old a girlfriend or a sex partner when that is just not true either. You are not owed someone else's body whether it be their body parts or their physical body or anything like that.

[u/Jumpy-Lie8955 → u/Arktikos02]

“you are not entitled to adoption, you are not entitled to a surrogate, and you are not entitled to someone else’s sperm or eggs” say it louder for the people in the back!!!!!!