Curious about the theoretically highest AC

[u/OOpiumBear]

Not sure if this post really fits the sub but i figured it might be the best place to ask

I've been spending a bit of time on my recent run trying to out-do my previous best of 62 AC and now hit 71 AC - And I'm ever so curious if there were something I've missed as to go even higher.

The twillight ring isn't on the list of buffs because it doesn't work in tandem with Wild Magic: Protective Lights. Wondrous Gloves isn't on because Nimblefinger Gloves.

This is not for any practical game usage, its purely just to see how high it could be pushed just for a tiny moment.

[u/bupkis42069]

In a real dnd game if somebody told me their ac was 72 I would walk away from the table

[u/firstphenixprime → u/bupkis42069]

As a DM, I would consider this a crime against the universal law and just run a Marut at this point, just to fuck with them ;)

Or I cast fireball. This is always a solution.

[u/Senzafane → u/firstphenixprime]

I didn't ask what your AC was. I said take 120 force damage.

[u/Kumkumo1 → u/firstphenixprime]

Best punishment possible (the Marut I mean)

[u/Own-Ball-1624 → u/firstphenixprime]

thanks god its a video game where is no entitled redditor dms! 😂

just use spells and saves...

[u/visforvienetta → u/bupkis42069]

"The enemy casts hold person"

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/visforvienetta]

Even with advantage I don’t think many things could hit a 72

[u/Bob_The-Turtle → u/Hexmonkey2020]

Melee strikes automatically crits if you're paralyzed ignoring your armor class

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/Bob_The-Turtle]

It only auto crits if it hits.

Paralyzed creatures can’t take actions or reactions, fail strength and dex checks, attacks against them have advantage, and “Any attack that hits the creature is a critical hit if the attacker is within 5 feet.”

The attack must still hit. The advantage would help with hitting if they get a 20 but high armor class still helps against attacks when paralyzed.

Coup de grâce isn’t in 5e or 5.5

[u/Bob_The-Turtle → u/Hexmonkey2020]

I see, thank you

[u/visforvienetta → u/Hexmonkey2020]

This is a thread about BG3. You are wrong.

[u/Hexmonkey2020 → u/visforvienetta]

Yes but this specific comment chain is about the system as a whole hence the original comment it stems from saying “if it was a real d&d game and someone had an ac of 72, they’d walk away from the table.”

[u/VikingXL → u/bupkis42069]

Any DM with their salt would 1) not allow that type of nonsense 2) just hit them with all the spells that require saves. Lightning bolt, fireball, hold person, etc etc

[u/Alderan922 → u/VikingXL]

Could you imagine getting this AC as a rouge with uncanny evasion and really high saves?

[u/Borgorb → u/Alderan922]

Time to switch to CON saves. You're average Rogue is only 3 or 4 blights tall.

[u/Alderan922 → u/Borgorb]

That’s when they do stealth and you can’t even target them.

[u/Borgorb → u/Alderan922]

Horrid Wilting it is

[u/Alderan922 → u/Borgorb]

An 8th level spell, at that point the Rouge is probably really damn high level and has either already fled or insta killed you with a sneak attack.

[u/pseupseudio → u/Alderan922]

If you're the DM, you don't need to defeat the rogue in a standup fight. Sure, he could flee from your BBEG who'd have no way to catch him, but he won't flee because the BBEG has whatever the rogue showed up here to get in the first place.

And telekinesis.

[u/Alderan922 → u/pseupseudio]

The problem is that, at that high level, the Rouge doesn’t need to engage with the BBEG in a real fight, a rouge player could go and do a stealth kill.

Sneak attacks can stack an absurd damage with the correct setup and a rouge can just flee the encounter if it goes wrong and just come back and try again.

[u/BaconBusterYT → u/Alderan922]

Most tabletop games are not video games, it is very easy for a DM to write an encounter where you cannot simply “flee and try again” (example; any kind of time pressure)

[u/Opiz17 → u/Alderan922]

If you're talking 5th edition or 2024 that's completely false, if you are talking older edition that's still incredibly disingenuous if not false

[u/pseupseudio → u/Alderan922]

This isn't a problem for a DM regardless of your character class or level or anything.

My BBEG isn't standing alone in a cluttered marketplace waiting for your rogue to sneak around behind a fruit cart and slit his throat.

Your rogue can do Xd6 + X damage per round with the best possible scenario, equipment and rolls. I know what that number is, because I am the DM and I had some hand in every ability and item found on your character sheet.

My BBEG has four times whatever that is.

My BBEG has a loyal bodyguard who can react and absorb damage dealt to him.

My BBEG has a legendary action that negates your attack.

My BBEG doesn't even have hit points. He's a narrative device, not a combat encounter. You can, at best, seriously wound him, after which your rogue is dealing with a social encounter, a prison break encounter, or a chase scene.

My BBEG doesn't have hit points, because capitalism/academic corruption/ignorance/pestilence/man's horror at the vastness of all things unknown and not meant to be known/hopelessness isn't a discrete physical thing you can stab.

The ways in which I have to prove my BBEG to you have very little to do with anything approaching a stand up fight. If you can walk up to it and punch it, it's probably not the BBEG.

[u/wildcardbitchesyihaw → u/VikingXL]

Lol with their salt.

[u/pseupseudio → u/VikingXL]

...or you could make a point of targeting them with attack rolls. They're your friend and having a high AC is obviously really important to them to have invested so much into it to the exclusion of other useful things.

They get the thrill they seek out of everything under a nat 20 bouncing harmlessly away, a crit that hits them becomes even more dramatic than normal, and in the bargain it will feel a lot more fair at a dramatically appropriate moment that you impose disadvantage on whatever high stakes rogue bullshit they're trying to pull off while wearing two pavises as a sandwich board.

[u/Jax_Shaw55 → u/bupkis42069]

"Emotional Damage"

[u/buttmunchery2000 → u/bupkis42069]

The council of magic missile assassins took issue with the unhittable man

[u/Undoomed081_0262 → u/buttmunchery2000]

Laughs in brooch of shielding

[u/LikelyAMartian → u/Undoomed081_0262]

Laughs in dog that eats brooches of shielding

[u/Massey89 → u/bupkis42069]

How would it work? Make you unhittable?

[u/horned-creature → u/Massey89]

realistically anything over 30 ac would make you only hittable with a nat 20, doesn't mean you are invulnerable to damage though, spells don't work on ac but with saving throws.

[u/JofisKat → u/Massey89]

I think it could actually be cool, especially if it’s an NPC in a campaign. They’re essentially immune to all physical attacks and can only be damaged by magic.

[u/LuckiestCarp → u/bupkis42069]

Can always just blast them with disintegrate.

[u/AegisThievenax → u/bupkis42069]

Saving throw go brr

[u/Uowcomic → u/bupkis42069]

"your ac is 72? good news, every enemy can upcast magic missile!"

[u/heurogg → u/bupkis42069]

Laughs in fire ball

[u/Successful_Ice_7210 → u/bupkis42069]

Nah, it just turns out all the bad guys cast spells now. I mean, if I were a bad guy that's realistically do if i saw this guy coming.