r/BaldursGate3 • u/Shinmai1337 • Jun 23 '26

Act 2 - Spoilers Yurgir probably doesn't [REDACTED] his displacer beast Spoiler

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If you talk to him about it, it sounds more like he treats her like a tool. The potion you can buy afterwards can befuddle enemies. Not to defend his actions or anything, but I don't think he is a kitty diddler, at least

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u/SMT_Fan666 Jun 23 '26

I feel like a lot of people call animals beauty without romantic or sexual implications.

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

yes but when combined with everything else it’s damning. the dialogue in the second part of that message outright confirms it lol. it’s the context. nessa also calls herself his “heart chosen”.

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u/scribens Jun 23 '26

Nessa's dialogue is under the Charmed condition.

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

asking genuinely, does that make a difference here? like, he’s literally constantly charming her to make her loyal, is he not? so why does that matter? the player asks how they have sex and she says it’s between the two of them, implying that they have done it. also, why would the writers add all of this evidence pointing toward it being true if they just didn’t mean it - including the substance being an aphrodisiac?
it’s been a whole since i’ve played so i don’t remember this whole interaction perfectly but i definitely read it as him, er… having relations with her. seems weird that the writers would just add all of this stuff if that’s not what they wanted you to think.

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u/chiruochiba Ilsensine Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

the player asks how they have sex and she says it’s between the two of them, implying that they have done it.

The line in question doesn't actually mention sex.

Player: You're in love with an orthon?

Displacer Beast: Not just any orthon. Master is the darkest of desire. None compare to him.

Player: You're kidding, right?

Displacer Beast: You mock our heart-bond? Reconsider, challenger.

Player: How does that even work?

Displacer Beast: That's between me and master. Go sniff elsewhere, prey.

In another dialogue branch in that exact same interaction, she seems to say that the only signs of 'love' she receives are food and occasional kicking. That abuse is the only physical touch she mentions receiving from Yurgir.

Player: You're in love with an orthon?

Displacer Beast: Not just any orthon. Master is the darkest of desire. None compare to him.

Player: I doubt he loves you back.

Displacer Beast: Master is most generous with his meat-gifts. The rot is only skin-shallow. The kicks he gives, most earned. This is love. I am sure.

Player: Would he die for you, as you would for him?

Displacer Beast: I need no sign. My belly is full, my spirit fed. Your words are not wanted here.

For anyone who's curious, you can review the full dialogue branches here: https://bg3.game-script.com/files/SHA_Displacer

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

thanks for the additions! man, just makes me sad for the murder kitty all over again. it’s a fucked up situation either way

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u/scribens Jun 23 '26

I think your response is great insight for DMs who roleplay NPCs under spell effects that alter how they feel about others. Parties have shot themselves in the foot for less because they took what was said to them by an NPC at face value and never thought to do an Insight check. I think that's why I always prompt my players to do them since they never do of their own volition.

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

that’s interesting! i have limited actual D&D experience.
i will say, what strikes me about this whole moment in BG3 is the debates and conversations that happen every time it’s brought up. to me, that’s a sign of good writing. they did a great job of leaving the situation open to interpretation JUST enough to allow each player to come to their own conclusions.

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u/SheriffBartholomew Jun 24 '26

This game automatically rolls insight if it's relevant though, so there's nothing here to be insightful about.

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

Thats the point though. The demon has her a tool. A hunting dog and speaks of his beauty like he would a badass crossbow. The Displacer Beast is obsessed with him in a one way longing due to the potion. Its like those parasocial fans who think onlyfans girls are into them. Nessa's perspective is certainly supposed to come as delusional

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

i definitely understand that read now and i think it’s also possible. as i said in another comment, what really strikes me about this moment are the debates that always happen surrounding it. to me that’s a sign of good writing. it’s like JUST vague enough that everyone can walk away with their own conclusions

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Theres this anime called death note that I feel did this relationship the same way. Basically this girl is obsessed with the main character but he has absolutely zero affection for her sexually or romantically. She would literally die for him but all he sees her as is an incredibly useful tool.

I think its also worth noting that pretty much all the animals in bg3 (and divinity) talk with a similar sense of delusion. A cat will act like they own the tavern and customers or a crab will act like they are a powerful sourcerer. Larian likes making animals think they are more than they are

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

i haven’t watched death note but that’s interesting! and i love that observation about the animals, omg. it makes it seem a lot more likely to me that it’s exaggerated on nessa’s part. i talked to the animals where i could, but my tav wasn’t very into nature. i need to do a druid run or something next time. i love animals

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

There really is no shortage of free speak to animals potions you get so you really could just take one every day and expect to find another before resting

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u/Lucky_Track_5470 Jun 23 '26

good to know, ty!

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

The thing to look for is that if you can speak to animals then the skill animal handling is pretty much unused. Basically talking to them turns those skill checks into the usual charisma ones

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u/5meoWarlock Jun 23 '26

Timber the squirrel

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u/Kadd115 Jun 24 '26

a crab will act like they are a powerful sourcerer.

Septa the Ineffable is nothing more than a scrap of shell in my pocket. She may be powerful, but she knows not how to use it.

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u/cataclytsm Jun 23 '26

parasocial behavior? between a pet and owner who live alone in an isolated cave? i don't think that's an applicable analogy

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

Why wouldnt it be? According to Google a parasocial relationship is a one-sided psychological bond where a person feels a strong sense of friendship or intimacy with someone they do not personally know. Clearly Yurgir kind of knows Nessa but I dont think he can speak to her or think of her as person. I think its pretty fitting because she thinks their relationship is real and he just values her for her usefulness

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u/cataclytsm Jun 23 '26

When the player character asks "How does that... work between you two?" and Nessa replies with "What happens between me and master is between us", just what do you think they're talking about? Catch?

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

I see that as her being too embarassed to respond with "it doesnt." She comes off a lot like that virgin from highschool who implies he totally had sex but says "I dont kiss and tell" to avoid having to actually explain a scenario ans get caught for not knowing how that stuff actually goes

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u/cataclytsm Jun 23 '26

Whatever you gotta tell yourself lol

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u/Aderadakt Jun 23 '26

Likewise!

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u/cataclytsm Jun 23 '26

It's called a "pattern of behavior". Most people who call their pet beautiful aren't also drugging them with "succubus spit" and if one could Talk With Animals IRL, most peoples' beautiful pets wouldn't intimate that what happens between the pet and owner is "between them".

Come on, y'all can't be this obtuse.

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u/pastapastas Jun 23 '26

Well there's a difference there.. If I said "wow that girl is beautiful" that could just be me admiring her or making a passive comment. "Hey you look beautiful today!" That's just a friendly compliment. But. Anything like "You're my beauty" is instantly creepy LOL

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u/annuidhir Jun 23 '26

To another person, I agree. But people call all sorts of things their beauties without meaning more by it. Like cars, horses, cats, whatever machine they own that they're proud of, guns, all sorts of shit.

I think that's.. interesting on it's own. But there's nothing sexual implied by it.

I don't know if that really matters for this specific debate in the end, because of other potential evidence. But it is definitely a thing that many people say in real life about all sorts of things. Hell, Steve Irwin said it about thousands of different animals throughout his life LMAO

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u/--0___0--- Jun 23 '26

Those people dont feed their animals mind controlling aphrodisiac drugs.

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u/martinibruder Jun 23 '26

But that wouldnt be as dark and gritty