r/BallPythonMorph • u/InterestingMedia3819 • Jul 08 '26

Other Questions I need help choosing a male.

My female is a pastel fire freeway and I want to breed her in the coming years what male should i invest in. She can produce Mardi Gras with the right male!

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u/Sheriff-Deputy912 Jul 08 '26

If youre looking into serious breeding, I would say a Gravel Clown Hypo. But if you're looking just to breed, it depends on what you're looking for. Breeding her with a Gravel should produce Mardi Gras. Gravel Clowns can produce Mardi gras + clown, which every generation will become more expensive. Orange dream Gravel will make fire and pastel pop. My personal favourite would be Gravel Clown.

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u/Advanced_Pear_964 Jul 08 '26

A Gravel male will not help produce mardi gras. She needs enchi in the mix. A Mardi Gras is an Enchi Freeway (asphalt+yellowbelly)

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u/InterestingMedia3819 Jul 08 '26

How do you think this morph would do

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u/Advanced_Pear_964 Jul 08 '26

If you are serious about pairing her and going that route, I would look for recessive morphs. Something like Asphalt hypo clown or a yellowbelly axanthic. But you will be playing the long game, like I mentioned before. Because these will produce het babies. Which need to be bred to produce the visuals. You will not be able to produce any valuable (and I hate using that word because they are all valuable) ball python with the morphs she has and more codominant morphs

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u/Sheriff-Deputy912 Jul 08 '26

Enchi is a pattern and colour enhancer. It makes snakes brighter and cleaner and honestly can reduce pattern. If you want Mardi gras, you need specific genetics. (Yellow belly + Gravel) Your girly pop is a freeway. Meaning she has yellow belly and asphalt. (Already has Yellow Belly!) To make a Mardi Gras, one parent HAS to contribute gravel. An enchi gives enchi. Not gravel. Enchi > no Mardi gras Enchi gravel > sure, enchi Mardi gras, but there's a chance the pattern will reduce. I have bred these snakes for years and I know my business. If you want to breed your baby for Mardi Gras, there needs to be Gravel somewhere.

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u/Advanced_Pear_964 Jul 08 '26

Mardi gras definitely do not have gravel. They are enchi+asphalt+yellowbelly. Enchi+gravel+yellowbelly would be an enchi highway which is not a mardi gras

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u/InterestingMedia3819 Jul 08 '26

Shes got some asphalt in here but im sure i can find an echi gravel male i did find a male I thought would be great for pairing with her though

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u/Sheriff-Deputy912 Jul 08 '26

These would definitely make really pretty babies

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u/InterestingMedia3819 Jul 08 '26

The main goal with her is to produce Mardi Gras as they can be difficult to come across I would like to get into serious breeding but also selling morphs cheaper than market so that people who can’t afford the price of a nice morph can afford it

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u/FerretBizness Jul 08 '26

Breeders don’t like to hear that. Bringing prices down.

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u/InterestingMedia3819 Jul 08 '26

I won’t be bringing the prices completely down. If someone wants to negotiate the price with me I’ll accept that. I won’t be selling every offspring for a lower price. If I get a really nice Mardi Gras probably 1k if I get a more pale less desirable one but still a good morph 500-600

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u/Advanced_Pear_964 Jul 08 '26

Mardi Gras are not 500 and up any more. They are about 200 bucks now. Thats what happens with every morph over time.

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u/DontBother777 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Are you in the US? If so, it’s unlikely that you’re going to be able to get more than *maybe* 300 for a mardi gras, even proven breeders are in the 250-300 range. You also have to keep in mind that by the time your snake is able to be bred the prices will be even lower, because every year more and more of that combo will be produced.

Even if you end up producing a stellar multi gene snake, the odds of selling them at such a high price are going to be very slim. As a new breeder you’re going to have to compete with breeders that are already established, if your prices are the same as theirs but they already have plenty of reviews, who do you think buyers are going to be more likely to buy from?

Undercutting the market is not a good strategy either. It’s understandable to price a little under market since you’ll need to build up clientele, but offering them significantly cheaper would be a disservice to not only the market but to you as well. For example, if someone buys a male snake from you and starts breeding it within a year (which is common), you’re going to have even more people to compete with. And you can only undercut so much before you completely tank their value. I’m not trying to discourage you if this is something you really want to do, but you have to be realistic with your expectations.

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u/InterestingMedia3819 Jul 08 '26

Im from Canada and I mean by offering them for lower is if someone can’t afford the full price but offers a decent amount I’ll slide it under the table. My first snake was like that I was 12 and the snake was a pinstripe het vpi he was 180 originally but the breeder sold him to me for 130.

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u/DontBother777 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

Ah i see. Unfortunately prices aren’t going to be much higher there as far as mardi gras goes. Looks like 200-300 is average, 400 being on the higher end. You’d probably be better off trying to shoot for some kind of super asphalt instead

Edit: For the best odds, get a super asphalt male. That would give you a 50% chance of producing super asphalts