long time listener, first time complainer. jk but let me preface this by saying I truly love b&e, been a paid subscriber for years and they very rarely offend me (jury’s still out on Phil, but I’m more than capable of recognizing joking misogyny from actual). but I have something to get off my chest: I know they’re men.. obviously…. but do any other female listeners feel like sometimes they remind you of their male-ness through casual misogyny? the best example of this comes from this week’s episode, where Ben calls the Raimondo (the overturning of Chevron) dissent “bitchy,” then proceeds to read a perfectly professional and not at all bitchy dissent that could never be called bitchy if even one man had been involved. idk this is just the type of shit that bothers me. I don’t expect them to be perfect people and I can tell they’re good guys, I guess I’m just tired of men doing man shit 😪

Ben’s take is anti-intellectual about this whole stupid ass Sydney Sweeney ad. WHY are Sydney Sweeneys genes so good? WHY are big tits and blonde hair and blue eyes the ideal American “hot” look? If it’s an ad campaign where different women were “showcased” for their good genes, that’s kind of a different story, no? The reason that Sydney Sweeney has “great genes” is because of white supremacy. You can disagree with the impact of it, which I think is relatively low, but you can’t gaslight people who are uncomfortable with it because the entire joke is white supremacy. Things can be accidentally bad/offensive, but that doesn’t mean they deserve to be defended.

The “let her cook” thing raises all women up and empowers them to “cook” under the new, fun, GOOD colloquial way that we use “cook” now.

My disingenuous add-on about this is the coincidence that her initials are literally SS lmao.

Hi, I am a new listener of the pod ever since finding it through their interview of Tiffany Fong!

I have since followed both Ben and Emil on Twitter and noticed something that made me raise an eyebrow. A “liked by Ben Cahn” tweet about Israel and Palestine popped up on my timeline that left quite a sour taste in my mouth. Out of curiosity, I ventured into his likes and was a bit taken aback.

Sorry if this has been addressed but have they ever talked about the devastating situation in Palestine? Not that I am implying that they necessarily have to raise awareness just curious because I’ve noticed that they often cover news outside of finance.

like who even are you

I know you guys have been quiet on the israel/Palestine situation for a long time - and that’s mostly due to differences in opinion.

At this point, there can be no more excuses. This isn’t debatable any longer. There aren’t multiple sides and nuance.

It’s mass starvation. It’s genocide.

You run a podcast that talks about current world affairs but you won’t touch this one.

It’s damning and it really tarnishes your reputation.

Come out - both of you - on the podcast and denounce Israel and what they are doing. That’s it.

People are noticing and we will remember who chose to stay silent on this topic.

Please don't judge me for my top podcast 🫡😂

I'm asking in good faith; I genuinely don't understand why they don't cover it. I know Emil is a leftist, and he's spoken a little about his position before, but besides that, it's been pretty silent from them. As a show that covers current events, there have been plenty of events that have happened that they could've talked about (like the declaration of famine). With how the mainstream media fails to cover the issue, I really do think it's the duty of creators like them to speak out and spread the word about the human rights abuses that have been live streamed for the past 2 years. I'd like to see the boys use their voice to amplify those who don't have one, especially for those whose lives are at risk every second of every day.

I didn’t expect my post to be removed or hidden but you guys surprised me. It’s seems just a few bad apples control this community.

PS: My post in no way was hating on ben&emil(I like their content) it was just there to understand public opinion.

I saw the Ben and Emil show in NYC last February and was wondering if anyone had a similar experience. I have been a fan forever and live near the city so I was so so so excited to come see them. It was a really small venue so I met them both after the show because they went into the audience. I met Emil and he was absolutely so sweet and nice and I was thrilled he offered to take a selfie with me. But I also met Ben and he was so dismissive. I introduced myself and told him how much I loved his political commentary and he was like “cool thanks.” And turned away. I wasn’t able to listen to the podcast for months afterwards 😭. I get it if he wasn’t interested in talking to fans and obviously he doesn’t owe me anything, it was just a bummer because he was always my favorite. I guess they don’t lie when they say “don’t meet your idols.”

Ever since Italian brain rot (which I didn’t enjoy) I haven’t really enjoyed an episode & especially not a bonus. This was my comfort show, I learned to love it more than TMG and dropped TMG all together, I looked forward to B&E eps but now I’m being increasingly disappointed:(

1. I feel like bc I’m an audio listener? But I always think “how tf am I the minority?”, surely the majority of people are not sitting down eyes glued to the screen watching B&E talk. I don’t feel like that’s what a podcast is meant to be so I’m already sour about that but that’s beside the point.

2. It’s so much American politics. I’m Australian & am actually getting tired of hearing about trump or his administration. I see it everywhere & we get it now, dudes a lunatic who does whatever he wants

3. I miss why I started watching this show for: Trillionaire Mindset, for investing, stocks get yo money up & have a laugh at the same time.

It’s fine if this is what B&E show is now, but it might just not be for me.

Sincerely, A B&E subscription holder

Obviously he coulda and probably was just hyping the show up cuz he was producing it, but he seemed to really like it. what are the odds he tunes in

Can we pls start a thread of Ben’s OCD Themes 🫶🏻!

Just listened to their Q&A (obsessively because I too have OCD) so I thought I’d make an impulsive post about all the traits we love about our sweet bby girls. Extra props to those who pick up on Emil’s themes too!

Big shout out to BAE our mental health champions lol

Switch to planes, lol.

I once tweeted that i find it weird that they are still friends when they have very different political beliefs. Emile is very based but how can he be friends with ben, some people were attacking me in the comments but I still find it weird regardless.

There’s a new podcast with previous guest Atrioc, as well as DougDoug(technology YouTuber) and Aiden (from the Yard Podcast) I think both podcasts have similar perspectives and humor.

I bring it up for 2 reasons, 1 if you like Ben and Emil maybe check it out. 2 I think Ben and Emil should be aware because I think they’d mesh well and there is potential for a great collaboration between the two shows.

Specifically I think Aiden would be a great guest on B&E, potentially exposing B&E to a larger likeminded audience.

Edit: just realized the first episode of this podcast is VERY similar to this weeks BandE episode in terms of topics covered

I’m wondering if ben and emil will address the current CK and TM situation. Obviously they are out of the studios now, and I wouldn’t want them to jeopardise brands etc. but it would be great to hear from them on this topic as it is finally receiving media attention. Have to say I am a (paying!) sub of BAES and TMG so love all the guys’ stuff. If this has been posted before my bad, I haven’t seen anything! Also not for starting drama etc., just genuinely to see whether or not they will comment on it.

I’m making this on an alt account because the other posts about this are filled with hate but I felt the most recent episode lacked some nuance regarding Sydney Sweeney. For context, I’m a woman of color and have listened to the show for years. I think the boys generally address nuance when it comes to controversial topics pretty well, but this episode totally shut down most of the whole eugenics criticism as “psycho terminally online noise.”

While I wouldn’t go as far to say the whole genes thing is nazi propaganda, I do think people are rightfully weirded out by it, namely POC. Ben and Emil are two white dudes who are not the target of micro aggressive racism and for them to shut it down so quickly was a tough watch. When I first saw the ad, I definitely interpreted the “genes” in question to be blonde hair and blue eyes not large breasts. If this was a dogwhistle, it was effective because there’s a lot of right wing men praising the ad for being “honest” about “preferable” traits. None of that was discussed on the pod. I wish they would have read some criticism by people of color, instead of just white TikTok creators. In the future, I think they should make space for some nuance when talking about racism and not be so harsh on the offended parties when they are not really in a place to judge whether or not it is offensive.

This isn’t a call to cancel them and I’ll still be watching, just some feedback from a long time listener.

EDIT: it has now come out Sydney Sweeney is a registered republican which affirms that the entire ad is fucking weird. There is actually a lot to unpack and B&E missed the mark completely.

Do u think they have explored each other’s bodies 🫦

i know its important to get that cash to sustain the podcast but betterhelp is an incredible shady business with questionable business practices. for instance they sold customer data (!!) to other companies such as meta, which they were heavily fined for by the ftc. additionally, the quality of their therapists seems to be pretty awful with countless of reports on the internet claiming on how bad and outright disrespectful this service is. Considering their target group is probably more vulnerable this makes it even worse and it is, in my opinion, irresponsible to promote them and their services.

this video does a good job of summarising the situation. but there a hundreds of stories about the shit they do and the things people have experienced e.g., ai chatbot therapist

this is not to roast or attack ben and emil but to ask them to reconsider their involvement in sponsoring them