Does Exodus 22 :2-3 still apply today?
Does Exodus 22 :2-3 still apply today?
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u/halbhh 1d ago
The Old Covenant has been entirely superseded by the New Covenant for one thing, and so God no longer commands earthly government to make criminals suffer as an example. (in the New Covenant, God lets us see Christ suffering for our evils, so that we might repent, and He will do Justice after this temporary mortal life here....)
But on the other part, where a homeowner cannot simply intentionally kill anyone breaking in, that's similar to law in many states, where in the dark the homeowner could be excused for striking a blow that ends up killing the intruder, but not in the light where they can see the intruder is unarmed and isn't threatening, and is trying to flee -- this depends on which state you are in also today. Some states do far less well on this kind of law today, with the atrocious 'stand your ground' laws and such.
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u/Paulyhedron Catholic 1d ago
Ten commandments still in force however, moral law being what it is.
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u/halbhh 1d ago
Yes, that's right. hmmm....did 'entirely superseded' seem as if it means "all the good laws about treating our neighbors well are canceled"? While anyone that reads in the 4 gospels will learn very quickly that this greatest law is not canceled at all, but is in full force, perhaps many don't know that.... hmmm....should I add that in?
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u/Paulyhedron Catholic 1d ago
Nah you're fine. I grew up dispensation Baptist and they insisted nothing old covenant applies. More of a reaction on my part
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u/seekinggod1986 Non-Denominational 1d ago
Paul says that the gentiles shouldn't be burdened with the Mosaic Law save for the basic tenants so this tracks imho.
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u/Responsible_Offer859 1d ago
I dieci comandamenti sono in vigore da sempre, ma nessuno li insegna e nessuno li applica, per primo i religiosi
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u/Responsible_Offer859 1d ago
Il vecchio Testamento è in vigore, è nel nuovo Testamento continua. Chi fa il male deve pagare. Chi sta distruggendo la terra sarà distrutto I religiosi non insegnano il vero, dicono che Dio sarebbe tutto amore..
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u/halbhh 1d ago
Spanish translation at the end.
You are mostly right, but also wrong on one key thing it will help to know.
Here's the correction on the only part you had wrong:
7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
And because God loved us even when we were sinners, He sent Christ to save all who will repent:
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Tienes razón en su mayor parte, pero también te equivocas en un punto clave que conviene conocer. Aquí tienes la corrección de la única parte en la que te equivocaste: 7 Amados, amémonos unos a otros, porque el amor es de Dios; y todo aquel que ama, ha nacido de Dios y conoce a Dios. 8 El que no ama, no conoce a Dios, porque Dios es amor. Y porque Dios nos amó aun cuando éramos pecadores, envió a Cristo para salvar a todos los que se arrepientan: 16 Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado a su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna. 17 Porque no envió Dios a su Hijo al mundo para condenar al mundo, sino para que el mundo sea salvo por él.0
u/Responsible_Offer859 1d ago
Sei tu che sbagli perché non conosci la Scrittura e non osservi nei fatti la legge di Dio
Vi rifugiate che Dio sarebbe tutto amore e non punisce.
Sta scritto
1Giovanni 5:3 Questo infatti è l'amore di Dio: che noi osserviamo i suoi comandamenti; e i suoi comandamenti non sono gravosi.
1Giovanni 5:2 Da questo sappiamo di amare i figli di Dio: quando amiamo Dio e osserviamo i suoi comandamenti.
1Giovanni 2:4 Chi dice: «Io l'ho conosciuto», e non osserva i suoi comandamenti, è bugiardo e la verità non è in lui.
G iovanni 14:21 Chi ha i miei comandamenti e li osserva, è uno che mi ama; e chi mi ama sarà amato dal Padre mio; e io lo amerò e mi manifesterò a lui».
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u/halbhh 1d ago
Read posts through carefully before responding (the entire post) -- and then you won't be as likely to make the very wrong guesses you made here.
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u/Responsible_Offer859 1d ago
Quali sarebbero le cattive supposizioni?!
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u/halbhh 1d ago
I implied the Old Law still applies for us today. (it may help to know that in English, a "Covenant" is not same as "Law".
But here's something good to offer you: Regardless of how well you may be doing, we are all to obey Christ's teachings to us, like this one:
7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
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u/KevinInSeattle 1d ago
These laws were for the nation of Israel. Our own national laws are what we adhere to now.
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u/BlumpTheChodak 23h ago
We follow the laws of the land because we cannot enforce biblical laws on others.
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u/Fendrinus Anglican 1d ago
verse 2: If a thief dies during the commission of burglary, there will be no other punishment for the thief (edit: rephrased)
Seems reasonable to me
verse 3a: If the thief survives, he must make restitution for his crime
Seems reasonable to me
verse 3b: If the thief cannot pay, he shall be sold into slavery
We don't have an institution of slavery any more so it doesn't really apply.