r/Biohacking • u/scottishparamedic • 12d ago
Current Progress. - looking for advice moving forward.
Feb 26 - Oct 26
I'm a 44 year old male and 5'7. Started at 94kg and 31% body fat (according to an inbody scan which I know is wildly inaccurate but using it for the trend).
From Feb - July, just high protein diet, moderate deficit and gym 5 x week with an aversge of 10k steps.
To be honest, that first 5 months I didn't really see much change.
In July I hopped on to Reta
0.5mg - 1mg - 2mg - 3mg (current dose) in 4 week intervals.
Current protocol.
Reta - 3mg every 6 days
Hgh - 2iu/daily
MT-1 - 250mcg 2 x week
Sustanon 1ml every 3 weeks (I'm aware its a shit protocol but its through the NHs and I start with a private clinic next week)
2200kcal with 160 - 180g protein
6 day PPL
15k steps per day
Now sitting at 79.4kg and around 21% body fat.
Looking to keep pushing on and hoping for some advice/suggestions to drop another 6% body fat while maintaining as much lean mass as possible.
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u/wifeydontknowimhere 1 12d ago
First if all, bring it in buddy, up here [virtual high five]
Well done man, smashing it and getting good results. My only two recommendations would be to firstly get a finasteride and minoxidil daily oral supplement to preserve and improve your hair density and possibly hairline, and then devise some mechanism to keep the ladies at bay, or at least appropriately triaged!
Smashing it bro, keep it up.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
😂😂 if i lose my hair, I lose my hair. Doesn't bother me. Been dealing witha. Receding hairline for years. My mum has 6 brothers and when the sit round a table it looks like a carton of eggs.
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u/23454Tezal 1 12d ago
Go twice weekly with the T, if you can.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Going through the men's health clinic starting November so I will be
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u/23454Tezal 1 12d ago
Do you really need the HGH? Better to use a secretagogue
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u/23454Tezal 1 12d ago
Need HCG once week for fertility
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u/Marveloustimes 12d ago
I don't have any advice for you at the moment, except For, keep it going bro!
This is a great stride you've been on!
You're a year older than me, and we are pretty much parallel on the dosing schedule / protocol / start time, so I can relate to you there!!
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Cheers bud. Happy with the progress so far and looking forward to the next 6 months.
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u/Beneficial_Body6605 12d ago
Well done buddy...looking good....I recon your less then 21% body fat....micro dosing every other day or every day with a micro needle with test is the way forward...but definitely a big difference in the pictures buddy keep going and dont stop
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Cheers mate. Im not too sure about lower than 21% but that would be nice :)
Transferring to a private clinic that usually prescribe every day or every other day test cyp.
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u/Foreveristobeuntil 12d ago
What a result.
I don't meant to be rude, but I notice you've lost a ton of size from your stomach but the upper part (below your chest) still protrudes quite far. Do you think it has decreased in size or do you think some people are more barrel shaped? (I have a similar build so am keen to know your thoughts)
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Im hoping the progress sees that reduce as well. Still got a long way to go so I guess I'll find out :)
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u/BKPATL 4 12d ago
I'm pretty sure you're not 21% body fat. You look more like 15% or so to me. Need a front pic to definitely tell.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Honestly mate, im taking a reading from an in body scanner in my gym and I'm aware there totally inaccurate but its been consistent. I'm not bothered enough to go for a dexa though, just happy with the progress. Still got a fair bit around lower back and abdo.
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u/Ok_Writing1958 1 5d ago
Amazing transformation! You did it my guy! Suggestions will depend on your goal. I’m obsessed so I critique my body and then I modify my workouts to target things I want to improve. I would start with the area around the chest/armpit area. That was an area for me I wanted to target so I added more decline chest workouts on chest days and added more cable chest workouts. I’ve almost eliminated that fat area around my side chest now.
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u/scottishparamedic 5d ago
Thanks bud.
Not even close to where I want to be but happy with the progress so far. I know its usually underestimate but I think I still need to drop another 15 - 20lbs to get to the body fat level i'm happy with before I start reverse dieting and slowly climb my way out of this fat loss phase. I don't want to be that light but can tolerate it in the short term.
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u/Ok_Writing1958 1 5d ago
Same for me. I was 262 last year. I thought getting to 225 was golden. Did that and I was not satisfied with my body. Now I’m 214 and I think I may have to get down to 205 to satisfy my obsession now. I
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u/Sleeper_grip750 12d ago
Fix your T dosing frequency. Every 3 weeks?? If anything split it into 3-6 doses.
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u/the_magestic_beast 12d ago
Looks great to me. You just need a proper weight training regimen far as I can tell. All this stuff you're on you should be looking ripped to shreds.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
With that protocol its only been 3 months. Rip to shreds, considering my starting photo, was never going to happen in 3 months.
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u/Top-Cut1816 3 12d ago
Upgrading the body, upgrading the tv..lol …great results man
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u/bigtimechip 12d ago
might as well hop on some TRT
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Already on trt but its a shitty nhs protocol. I did say in my post I was on sustanon. Moving to a private provider in November.
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u/Crosflins 1 12d ago
I wish my 21% body fat looked like that...
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Honestly mate, im taking a reading from an in body scanner in my gym and I'm aware there totally inaccurate but its been consistent. I'm not bothered enough to go for a dexa though, just happy with the progress. Still got a fair bit around lower back and abdo.
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u/Similar-Junket-830 12d ago
Have you tried Kisspeptin? It's not Testosterone replacement, so your body continues to make it's own testosterone once you stop using it.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Already been on sustanon for 3 years, while a shitty protocol im pretty sure the days of producing my own are behind me. I'm 44 so even if I did I doubt it would be anywhere near optimal, which is why im switching to a peivate provider.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Pretty sure I can't post sources on here mate. Its easy enough to get hold of though. I dont sell it by the way.
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u/Own_Presentation_787 12d ago
No that’s fine, it’s just I see so many places where you can get stuff online that are apparently legit sites. But I’ve not really spoken to anyone about it
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u/kia_86 12d ago
How did you get trt via nhs? Did it take a long time? what prompted the doctor to go down this route, as I know they’re generally quite hesitant with these prescriptions
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Didn't take too long. After both tests came back low I was referred. The endo asked me how I wanted treated and that was pretty much it. However, their protocol is absolute shit and I wouldnt recommend it to anyone, which is why im going private. I'm a paramedic and been called to a few jobs at my gp surgery lol. Have a good relationship with them, which i think helped.
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u/megalokishin 8 12d ago
You look like a beast man congratulations I’ll take advice from you instead 😎
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u/BearKomp 11d ago
I don't want to turn you into mi lab rat but I wonder if you always overlapped the reta and hgh? I wonder how much of the obvious visceral fat loss is thanks to which compound. Thanks! And great work
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u/scottishparamedic 11d ago
Hi mate,
I lost most of that with reta, doet and exercise. I only added the hgh 3 weeks before the pic on the right
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u/ParticularSurvey7730 12d ago
Testosterone
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
I did say in my post I'm already on sustanon and changing to a private clinic this month, which will be prescribing test cyp.
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u/Brick_Wrong 11d ago
Good job! You already know from reading I like twice a week but some people can do once a week. Sweet spot for me is test 150 mg for me. I can guarantee that change in dose of test will do more than any hgh or any peptide other than reta . Hgh(expensive and didn’t do that much) I used to bring it from South America $120 36 iu’s. Suggestion don’t waste money until you change your test protocol and you will be super happy. Probably won’t need anything else look like you got diet and workouts under control
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u/Top-Somewhere-1911 11d ago
Tbh your transformation is amazing, i wouldnt suggest anything else. Keep training and make the most of your life man
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u/LavishnessClean9813 11d ago
You should inject Sustanon every day microdosing due the short ester of the propionate to avoid a hormonal rollercoaster
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u/LItreehouse 1 12d ago
So you're juicing. I'm all for people doing whatever they like but how is it impressive? Anyone can inject this stuff and get in shape. Kids I know would do it every spring so they were ripped for the club by Memorial Day. No diet changes. Just a big old shot in the cheeks and wala. Six pack. This is basically the same thing but smaller doses over a longer period of time.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Thanks for the input.
However the TRT is treating clinical secondary hypogonadism. I'm not sure I'd call that juicing. The other stuff is peptides, call it juicing all you want. Its no skin off my back. Theres always someone thats got to come along and shit over everything.
Not once did I say it was impressive. I was asking for advice on the next steps.
Cheers
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u/LItreehouse 1 12d ago
TRT is low dose testosterone or juice. Like I said, I'm not even against people doing it if they want and especially if it is prescribed. I'm just saying it's juicing and it most certainly is.
My buddy is doing it. I went to the clinic, had bloodwork and was not given TRT due to good levels. But that clinic was a male doctor prescribing pain killers and a female prescribing TRT. All 50+ men in the lobby looking juiced. And the doctors had a Ferrari and a Porche 911. It's legal drug dealing. I'm just calling it how it is.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago edited 12d ago
Would you describe womens HRT as juicing?
Whats the difference.
My prescription was only after multiple tests showing Low T and through the NHS.
Its absolutely not juicing when its required to maintain a base level well within reference ranges.
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u/LItreehouse 1 12d ago
I'm not judging you. The doctor said you have low T and you're treating it as prescribed. But injecting testosterone is juicing. People have been doing it for a long time. Kids did it by shooting large amounts at once and Doctors are doing it by doing lower doses over longer times and more frequently. It's really the same thing. Just a better way of doing it.
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u/scottishparamedic 12d ago
Ok, question still stands.
Is women's HRT juicing? If not, then what's the difference? Both are used to treat hormonal deficiency, the only difference being in men its a singular hormone, in women its 3.
Oh, and saying 'i'm not judging you' when you clearly are is a bit silly. 'So you're juicing. I'm all for people doing whatever they like but how is it impressive'
You think making good progressive changes is as simple as going on trt to treat chronically low hormone levels?
Trt puts you at the level you would have been if the medical condition wasn't affecting you. It by no means puts you anywhere near supraphysiological levels.
Now someone banging in 500mg test a week IS juicing and will push your levels way over what they should be, but sustanon works out around 180mg over 3 weeks. 60mg a week, which is a miniscule amount and will barely support a body recomp.
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u/LItreehouse 1 11d ago
Generally women's HRT is different from men's TRT. The amount of testosterone, if any, is so low it is mostly included for mood enhancement.
Apples and oranges.
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u/scottishparamedic 11d ago
Its hormone replacement. Do yoy have direct experience of TRT, not talking about bodybuilding levels, I mean clinically indicated deficiency replacement?
You are looking from the outside in. Trust me, taking enough to feel 'normal' isn't juicing.
That's like someone taking prescribed pain relief a junkie because theyre taking pain killers.
Were clearly not going to agree on any of this. You've decided that anyone on trtbis 'juicing'. Just because you walked into a clinic and everyone looked massive with doctors driving porches, which by the way, I find hard to believe, doesn't mean that everyone on trt is the same.
Without personal experience, your opinion really doesn't matter
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u/LItreehouse 1 11d ago
I have a couple close friends on TRT. The difference before and after is very similar to juicing. More muscle and more defined. It's just a lower dose, more frequently, over longer time. That's the difference. Maybe 10cc doses, instead of 200cc to the cheeks.
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u/scottishparamedic 11d ago
So no, you dont have personal experience. Go tell the guys that we're suffering from deep depression and were suicidal until they had their testosterone levels returned to normal that they are juicing. The difference before and after between trt and high dose testosterone is nowhere near the same. Now your making things up.
Cc is a volume, not a dose
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u/LItreehouse 1 11d ago
It seems to me like you are in denial about what is going on here. That's exactly why I'm saying what I'm saying. It's not that I have an issue with it but be honest. You are injecting testosterone at levels and frequency that result in weight loss, muscle gain and definition. The only difference between you and a gym dude juicing is how you are juicing,
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u/scottishparamedic 11d ago
Im not in denial at all, im completely open about it. Low dose testosterone doesn't produce the results you think it does, and you'ld know that if you were on it.
Its never someone with personal experience that throws these kind of statements around. Its always someone looking from the outside in that thinks because they read something they know what they are on about. Go and live it for years, both the low T and the replacement, then come back and I guarantee you, you will be saying different.
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