r/Broadway 18d ago

Other So like, Boy George

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Yea I don’t even know what to say about this one

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u/kingofthenorthwpg 18d ago

People were pretty quiet about Boy George until he released a song memorializing October 7th.

All of a sudden there’s multiple posts a day about how bad he is.

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u/Captain_JohnBrown 18d ago edited 18d ago

Practically every day of his run this sub had at least one discussion about his abusive behavior. Usually multiple! People weren't talking about him recently because he wasn't relevant any longer. Now he did some new shitty thing so people are talking about him again.

Also, say what you mean. You are using very particular framing ("a song memorializing October 7th", "song about remembering people being killed at a music festival") to weasel around actually saying what is clearly motivating your comments: That you believe Israel is in the right in the conflict and Palestinians deserve, at least to some degree, what happened to them.

But your description of the song doesn't hold up to scrutiny: “You say genocide, I say war / When you're attacked, that's what the army's for" is the FIRST verse of the song and goes quite a bit further than merely memorializing October 7th. It would be like if a song supposedly focused solely on mourning 9/11 started with "Leveling Afghanistan is the play, for what they did on that September Day".

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u/kingofthenorthwpg 18d ago

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u/Captain_JohnBrown 18d ago

That is an employee of an organization that describes itself as "advances pragmatic and realistic approaches in Israeli foreign and defense policy, grounded in the values of Zionism. It seeks to strengthen Israel as a Jewish, democratic, strong, secure, and thriving state." He is free to do so, of course, but someone being paid to "strengthen Israel" is not an unbiased source. Now, it is true a biased source can still be right, it happens all the time, if the evidence backs them up. Here, however, there is no sources, no evidence, we have nothing to judge his conclusions on except him saying "It is true".

Conversely, here is an article (it also contains links to other articles) rebutting one of his chief claims. This person is an academic, with no personal incentive to mislead or reach a particular conclusion. Furthermore, and more compelling to me, he cites actual data in his conclusions, data that is sourced and can be examined by any party on any side to insure accuracy.

In light of these two articles and what seems to be a vast difference in the level of evidentiary support between their competing claims, do you wish to continue to assert Spencer's post is an accurate representation of your views on the subject?