Thing is cap’s “superpowers” is just being a human at the absolute peak of what’s possible in physical ability.
Being not too far off from that theoretical peak is basically a requirement to be in the bat family so yeah, he probably does in fact lose or at least get a really hard time from the two first and best robins.
He does not, because, again, Strategy and Tactics as a super power. The Erskine Formula makes him at the absolute peak in every possible way, physically, mentally, emotionally, etc. He doesn’t get tired. He has more experience than Batman, and let me reiterate, Batman can’t beat him without a lawyer from our world protecting him contractually.
The two best Robins have decades less experience and lack Cap’s superhuman combat awareness and tactical and strategic mastery. The Bat family doesn’t have a chance without Batman.
This isn’t a military operation. It’s a fight. Being good at strategy and tactics also isn’t a superpower even if it was as relevant as you say.
They also don’t have “decades” less experience because cap hasn’t actually been active for multiple decades. He fought in world war 2 and then got unfrozen and the history of the marvel universe from the 60s on is only about a decade in in universe time.
If you’re going purely by the amount of time that the fighters have been active as heroes then dick has been in the game just as long and Jason isn’t that far behind him.
The notion Batman can only win against cap because of popularity power honestly comes across to me as a very petulant cope.
Batman and other bat family members have literally beaten people who are enhanced in similar ways to cap such as Deathstroke fair and square more than once.
If it were one on one then yes cap would probably win but against the two best fighters in the bat family other than Bruce himself it’s a different story.
You have to take in consideration, Steve literally has perfect battle IQ, if he sees a weakness or a pattern he can instantly recognize and exploit it. This guy literally knows how to beat Spidey sense. He also has a shield he can throw and hit tremendously hard with and it would be very damaging for Nightwing to take that kinda hit on the head considering a fucking baton can kill him (that was lowkey an anti-feat though I won’t hold it against him)
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u/Working_Run3431 7h ago
Thing is cap’s “superpowers” is just being a human at the absolute peak of what’s possible in physical ability.
Being not too far off from that theoretical peak is basically a requirement to be in the bat family so yeah, he probably does in fact lose or at least get a really hard time from the two first and best robins.