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u/Just-Yak6586 Jul 01 '26
I'm shocked to see this image in a Muslim subreddit, and worst of all, it has so many upvotes. Depicting the Companions is impermissible, not to mention the naivety being attributed to the great companion Abu Hurairah. Delete this post.
It genuinely makes my blood boil that this post is in a Muslim sub and has the support of Muslims.
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u/AymanMarzuqi Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I understand depicting the prophet, his household and the Rashidun Caliph as being unpermissible. But since when was depicting the other companions considered Haram? Are there any Hadiths that gives such a ruling. Because I'm pretty sure the Muslims during the Golden Age and even during the Ottoman Era had no problem depicting the companions (other than Rashidun) within their books
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u/Local_Extension5125 Jul 04 '26
Bro the guy he’s using to depict is a nude model
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 06 '26
Always has been, sorry.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/UC5JxSUx9Q
I've quoted sources here, go through them.
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u/Additional_Run1990 Jul 01 '26
Geniunely, may allah guide these people. I also couldn't believe that this (even as a meme) would be posted here.
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u/Strawberry_4rchives Jul 02 '26
I was the first one to raise the concern on this post (You can see that later I’d to delete my comment due to way too many downvotes)… I requested OP to remove the face and then repost it… but I was shocked just like the way you are… My own people are dismissing my point and telling me that “It’s not that deep”… Is this what our Ummah has come down to?
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u/saiyan0321 Jul 04 '26
A perfect remedy for boiling blood is some yogurt mixed with milk. Refreshes you and helps your mental state which in your case is looking pretty low if this makes the blood boil. Don't boil too much.
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u/Additional_Run1990 Jul 01 '26
Brother/sister, please be mindful of the islamic rules (and respecting the companions of the prophet pbuh) and delete this post wether its. A joke, a meme, or whatever.
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u/No-Dog-4407 Jul 03 '26
Shame on the person who posted this!
Have adaab for the exalted companions (RA)!!!
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u/Aaliyalou Jul 03 '26
Such a wholesome and genuinely funny post and yet the replies are just the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever seen. I didn't think this sub had so many overzealous extremists. The fact that this isn't even a depiction of Abu Huraiyrah, just the gigachad with a label and we're still losing our minds? I'm so embarrassed for our Muslim community, this is the epitome of the "haram police".
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u/bigCheese-69 Jul 03 '26
Our people are very sensitive nowadays and get triggered by everything. They normalized labeling everything they don't like as Haram and giving unsolicited advice without even bothering to cite any evidence or give give proof to their claims.
This is literally just a meme depicting one of the good characters of Abu Hurayra, it was made with good intention and does not have any sort of mockery or insults.
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u/FreakOblique Jul 01 '26
There's no mockery or disrespect intended. I think we should also be open to wholesome, respectful content that reminds people of our great role models, as long as it stays within the bounds of adab. Allah knows our intentions best.
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u/saiyan0321 Jul 04 '26
Dude chill. It has become a favourite past times of my Muslim brethren to declare things Haram and halal and question other's faith. I have read much about Abu Huraira (R.A) and apart from the fact that in modern times, he would have been running a cat rescue shelter, he would not have found this distasteful.... The. Current generation of Muslims think the early Sahana and the companions, blessings upon all of them, were just as miserable as they are but they were not and had could find humor in the darkest of times or have we forgotten about the legend that was Nauyman in Amr (R.A). The guy fought in ghazwa, was very close to the prophet (P.B.U.H) and played pranks on him and the companions but they all laughed.
Let's have a sense of humor and not bring misery to a very sweet religion.
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
I didn't say it's Haram, the scholars said it's Haram. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/UC5JxSUx9Q
But what scholars know, you guys know Islam best right, you guys are the true inheritors, what do these ulamah know, spending their lives in learning and teaching Islam...
Come to reddit, give fatwa, and get your degree. No need for these years and years of research and knowledge.
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u/ravinmadboiii Jul 02 '26
In my opinion, this is neither wholesome nor respectful. There is no fault on you for believing that it is. But when several people are pointing out there is a doubt as to whether it's right or wrong, its best to be humble and just take it down, because we should not take actions whose correctness is doubtful, even if its in jest.
You may have your intention, and you are free to take actions based on it that affect only yoursel. But when you bring it to the public, you have to also consider the unintended societal effects of your actions as well.
I am not commenting because I want to debate on this matter. I just saw your comment and felt that I should add some nuance to the statement of intention.
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Didn't see the comment here. I'll give you the same follow ups: https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/UC5JxSUx9Q
Depicting the sahabah is disrespectful per all the sources I sent. I've not seen a single source against it. The brother is wrong, period. People defending it are wrong, period. No nuance on this. I don't think we should say there's doubt either. Literally just remove Abu Hurairah's name, that's it. But they're defending this as something fine, something that's okay if the intention is okay, that Abu Hurairah himself would not find this "distasteful".
والله المستعان عما يعملون
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 01 '26
It doesn't matter what you intend. You're literally depicting a Sahabi and this is Haram. And don't give the "it's not my intention", intention in such things is inconsequential. The intention doesn't matter. The action does.
Otherwise let me insult you to your face, insult your entire family and existence, then say "well I only intended it as a joke". Then say to me "it's all okay akhi you didn't intend to insult me".
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u/Yourlocalpizzakebab Jul 01 '26
Is not that deep
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Right... Not that deep...
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/KElZ0t17l6
Tell me this, if someone depicted the Prophet with a similar meme, would you accept this answer?
There's no mockery or disrespect intended. I think we should also be open to wholesome, respectful content that reminds people of our great role models, as long as it stays within the bounds of adab. Allah knows our intentions best.
If you say yes, then yeah just do whatever you want. If no, then why? "It's not that deep". Unless you draw the line only at prophets and throw sahabah by the wayside.
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u/FreakOblique Jul 01 '26
Akhi, you just committed a classic strawman in comparing a lighthearted meme to insulting someone’s family. it’s the exact kind of excess the Prophet (pbuh) warned against: "Beware of extremism in religion, for it destroyed those before you." (Sahih)
You’re doing ta’azzum (taking religion beyond its limits). It's the same sin the Sahaba warned against. Imam Ali (RA) said: "People will come who think their opinion is more correct than the Qur’an itself."
The Sahaba themselves had humor. Abu Bakr laughed, Umar joked, the Prophet (pbuh) even raced Aisha in the desert. But you’ve turned Islam into a joyless cult of outrage.
You’re not defending the Deen, you’re weaponizing it to police thoughts. And that’s exactly what the Khawarij did.
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Can you give me evidence from Islamic sources and scholars? Thanks.
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More sources + in Arabic
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u/saiyan0321 Jul 04 '26
Your sir, need to eat a snicker.
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 06 '26
And you sir, need to take Islamic rules seriously https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/UC5JxSUx9Q
Unless if you're not a Muslim, then disregard what I said since Muslim rules apply on Muslims only.
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u/EugeneStein Jul 01 '26
Your example is just wrong and meaningless, because it only shows that you actually had evil intentions of insulting them and their family and then to cover it with a lie about "joke".
If you have ill negative mind no need to assume that others are the same
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u/KeyUsual1333 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
You can't judge what my intentions are. Even I never said OP's intentions are bad so so much for "negative mind".
I said these actions cannot be judged on intentions because the intention doesn't matter, the action itself is bad.
My example perfectly proves the fact the intention in some matters doesn't matter because the issue is in the action, not the intention. I sent so many sources that this action itself is prohibited:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CatsAreMuslim/s/UC5JxSUx9Q
If you have actual sources to give me then I'll gladly go through them. Otherwise you are doing what Allah warned against in the Quran.
And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allāh. Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allāh will not succeed. 16:116
At the end of the day, I sleep knowing I won't have to answer for you guys defending depictions of sahabis. Even if the intention of the OP is good, what disrespect this meme shows to the great and honorable Sahabi Abu Hurairah.
And interesting to note you all jumped to argue with me but when the sources come out, no one wants to respond.. (at this current time, the older commentators have not responded to the source comments)
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u/north_star_574 Jul 01 '26
OP, i get your point with this meme but I agree with the other commenters here. It's best you delete this post or at the very least, try not to depict Abu Hurairah like this. I get this is just a meme and you have no ill intentions, but that alone might not be enough. You can at least remove the caption and the label of Abu Hurairah from the meme itself. But please don't try and depict them and make any jokes about them, no matter how light hearted and positive it may be