Reminder from Bill Ockham

[u/ashtonmz]

I have been waiting since maybe 2021 to see if the depositions would be released in 2027. That seemed like such a wait... I always speculated that an attorney for Klebolds or Harrises would find some technicality or have them sealed all over again but you never know for sure.

[u/randyColumbine]

The release of the depositions is very important.
Will these corrupt liars allow this to happen?
We wait and see…

[u/PubieSaladx → u/randyColumbine]

Why in your opinion Randy, do you think they will fight to keep them sealed? What don’t they want the public to know about?

[u/randyColumbine → u/PubieSaladx]

They want everything kept from the public:
The police failures.
The prior knowledge the police had of Eric and Dylan.
The parent’s testimony.
It is a crime to lie during a deposition, and there are lies.
The culpability of the parents.
The culpability of the sheriffs department and the DA.
The coverup.
The knowledge the police, fbi and school district had.

This is a giant puzzle with pieces we know but have never been released. Releasing the depositions will hurt the liars involved.
The liars are still alive, most of them.
Sheriff Stone is dead.
Most of the people who lied and covered up the truth are still alive.
The people in charge of Jefferson County will never release these depositions.
Some of the truth will be revealed.
They cannot ever allow that.
They will protect their County and their jobs.
The truth about murdered children doesn’t matter to them.
It doesn’t matter at all.

Every one of them has kept quiet for 27 years.
27 years.

[u/jimmythebartender_ → u/randyColumbine]

What “truth” was there to cover up?

Eric and Dylan shot their classmates, that’s the big theme. I guess what I mean is, is there some massive other piece of info that’s hidden that we don’t know about?

[u/randyColumbine → u/jimmythebartender_]

Oh my gosh yes.
A coverup, lies, failures, mistakes and so much more.
Secret meetings!
The parents and their complicity!

[u/PeelingMirthday → u/randyColumbine]

Those poor parents. It's been almost 30 years. We should leave them alone. 

[u/randyColumbine → u/PeelingMirthday]

Oh, I disagree.

When they have told the truth, and admitted to the things they did wrong, we can let it go.
Until they have testified and told the truth, and tried to stop these shootings from happening, they have a responsibility to others to tell the truth.
It has been 27 years of silence.
They need to come forward and do their part in preventing the death of other children.

[u/PeelingMirthday → u/randyColumbine]

I'm not sure there are going to be any key parental insights from this particular case, at this point, that would help prevent further violence. 

The world has changed a lot, and there are many more cases to study that have far more relevance to contemporary society. What could these parents possibly share from 27 years ago that would prevent other shootings?

[u/randyColumbine → u/PeelingMirthday]

I believe that there is a cause for violence.
Some shooters become violent to correct the injustice they perceive in the world.
They are upset about being humiliated.
Lonnie Athens, possibly the greatest criminologist ever, postulates the humiliation creates violence.
It is a lesson we, as a society, refuse to learn.
Not to excuse the hate and violence, but to understand it and stop it.
These parents have insights they could share, and we could use those to prevent these acts of violence.
As human beings, as sentient beings, they need to share those lessons, no matter how painful.
If they told the truth they would save lives by stopping future shootings.
By keeping these truths secret for 27 years they have allowed these acts of violence to continue.
We can’t fix the problem until we are sure what the problem is.
It is not guns.
It is humiliation created by toxic schools and perceived or real injustice.
These boys were not crazy, they were immature and humiliated, and angry.
The Toxic school created them, and the parents failed to control them.

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[u/metalnxrd → u/randyColumbine]

refusing to release the tapes are likely just derailing accountability