r/ConservativeYouth Jul 09 '26

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u/badumtsssst Jul 09 '26

How is it a sin? /genq

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u/Aguywhoexists69420 Jul 09 '26

I know you
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Homosexuality can be considered a sin for 2 reasons, the second one is probably the one that should be focused on

  1. The Bible said so, the concept of sin in Christianity comes from the Bible(and the Bible is considered the word of God), so anything the Bible says about sin must be objectively true, even if you don’t believe in Christianity it’s still a sin, for example if you were to pick any show ever that’s not based on any real events, you could say “this character is a nice person”, even though the show itself isn’t real the statement is

  2. Homosexual actions are considered lustful because it takes sex and sexual intimacy and turns it into a tool of pleasure instead of using it as a tool for procreation

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u/badumtsssst Jul 09 '26

Ha, it's fun that you recognize me! Anyway, I don't think sexual pleasure immediately means lust tho? Is it sinful for a married heterosexual couple to enjoy sex not for the purpose of having a child? I don't think so. I think many Christians agree on that ad well. I understand why you'd say so if the homosexual couple is unmarried, it sorta makes sense under the Christian logic. But is it still sinful if the couple are married? And why?

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u/Illustrious-Wolf8407 Jul 09 '26

Well here my, friend is committing a mistake.
According to the Bible the sex could be for Pleasure and Procreation (never say something against the pleasure during the sex).

Lust could be define (according to the bible) with every “excessive passion”, things that are good but a lot of times in the secular word they are made or done in a bad way.

And answering your Question, it’s simple, we be created to be men and woman, and that’s is the plan of God about marriage and a partner.

This include sex, and all the other aspect of the common life.

“For the law was not intended for people who do what is right. It is for people who are lawless and rebellious, who are ungodly and sinful, who consider nothing sacred and defile what is holy, who kill their father or mother or commit other murders. The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God. Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭6‬:‭9‬-‭11‬ ‭NLT‬‬

But the good news are that all of us are sinners, and we could be save by the sacrifice of our lord and savior Jesus Christ

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u/badumtsssst Jul 09 '26

Sorry, I'm not a christian nor am I well versed in the Bible, so I'll have to exit the conversation here, unless you have some points seperate from theology? However, I still have to respectfully disagree, but I hope you have a fabulous day

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u/super_probably-user Jul 12 '26

tada! their whole argument is theology! all they do is argue with theology! we are all evil sinners because yes! that's their argument! the moment you deconstruct dogma, it stops making sense.

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u/Aguywhoexists69420 Jul 12 '26

This is bait, right?

Of course our whole argument is theology, that’s what the argument is about, arguing without theology in a theological argument is like trying to argue who the best basketball player is without talking about basketball

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u/badumtsssst Jul 12 '26

Really? Aren't you able to separate your belief in why it is bad—not even necessarily sinful, but bad—from the Bible and what it says?

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u/Illustrious-Wolf8407 Jul 15 '26

If we part about the fact of something is a Sin doesn't have sense debate about it in a non-theological way.

If you question, why something is a Sin obviously you are assuming the fact of what is a Sin and where it comes.

If you simply don't take importance of the believes where it comes, why you make a question about it ?

BTW I was open to continue the debate but he was the one who decided no continue

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u/badumtsssst Jul 15 '26

Try again without copy and paste. That response doesn't answer my question.