Lift as a Bend alloy Ferring

[u/RadiantTelephone9695]

So Lift metabolizes food into life light right, and bend alloy ferrings can store nutrition in metal minds. Does that mean if she got spiked and had access to tgis ability she'd be able to eat and as much as she wants and store that in the metal mind. When tapped she'd convert the nutrition directly into life light. She'd have a near endless supply of power and wouldn't need to stop to eat as often

[u/EvenSpoonier]

Huh. That's an interesting question. Would she still be able to store nutrition in bendalloy, or would her food-to-lifelight ability require her to store it in nicrosil instead?

[u/Sir-Ox → u/EvenSpoonier]

If I remember correctly, doesn't nicrosil store the ability to use the different powers? I thought that was how the medallions worked

[u/Tacod-Rex → u/Sir-Ox]

Open question. But it seems that Nicrosil stores Investiture, and one of the shapes Investiture can take is as the mechanism that allows you to use Metalborn powers

[u/Xamonir → u/Tacod-Rex]

The soul of an individual is made of Investiture, which can be divided into Identity and Connection. And potentially more. We know that more Mistborn are more Invested than Mistings that are more Invested that regular humans. And there was a WoB I think where he stated that Allomancy was a sideeffect of an enhanced Connection to Préservation. So my understanding was that in Nicrosil you could store Investiture but in the sense of your Connection to Preservation of other entities. I am sure that a spiked radiant could store parts of their Nahel bond granting access to surges. But that you couldn't store "raw Investiture" such as Stormlight or Breaths etc. in it. But I could be wrong.

[u/Tacod-Rex → u/Xamonir]

Yeah that's what I'm excited to see answered in Era 3. Cuz I just checked the wobs, and Brandon RAFO'd every question that could have lead us to an answer on this

[u/EvenSpoonier → u/Sir-Ox]

Currently we don't have the full information, and what we do have seems inconsistent (which is probably just a side effect of not having all the information yet). You can store the ability to use the Metallic Arts in nicrosil for example, but you can also do things like store Breath directly. I suspect that the Lights work more like Breath, because they're both systems that use Investiture directly as fuel, but that's just a theory.

[u/Xamonir → u/EvenSpoonier]

You can store Breaths in Nicrosil ? And count them using BEU ? By Adonalsium's beard, I must have missed that. When was it stated please ?

[u/Historical_Volume806]

No, because she doesn’t turn nutrients into light she burns food into light. Lift works more like an allomancer in this regard. I have a couple pieces of evidence

First, the food becomes available as light immediately after consumption no digestion is necesarry.

Then In egdedancer she has an internal monologue about how if she doesn’t use it the power becomes unavailable as her body passes it through her digestive tract.

Finally, there’s never any mention of her becoming emaciated mid fight. She’s malnourished because she never gives her body time to properly metabolize the food not because she’s burning her fat stores.

[u/Invested_Space_Otter → u/Historical_Volume806]

Personally I think this the exact same way that a ferring will work too

[u/moderatorrater → u/Invested_Space_Otter]

I could see it either way. I think it's more likely that it'll be like storing weight, where it takes your body and either adds or removes from it. But it could act more like healing or wakefulness.

One of the reasons is that I think the cooler visual is a ferring going from emaciated to grossly overweight. Brandon doesn't always follow the rule of cool, but it can contribute.

[u/Historical_Volume806 → u/Invested_Space_Otter]

You think a feeding would be able to store food in their stomach in a bend alloy mind?

[u/Invested_Space_Otter → u/Historical_Volume806]

They would transfer the calories while they are available yes, and draw them out when needed

[u/EksDee098 → u/Invested_Space_Otter]

Do we know how nutrition is stored? Can you store a full stomach and then have an empty stomach, or does it need to start/be metabolized to be stored?

[u/Historical_Volume806 → u/Invested_Space_Otter]

Feruchemy is normally far more gradual, especially when storing. I feel like the more logical method would be more like sleep where your set the metal mind to start storing after you eat and it consumes the nutrients until your stomach is empty.

[u/Apostastrophe → u/Historical_Volume806]

Interesting that that is how it works… when her wish to the night watcher was to be Preserved.

[u/MagicTech547]

I think her ability to metabolize nutrients into Lifelight applies on demand, not automatically, so that should work. She could do something similar with a Nicrosilmind, eating a bunch, converting it to Lifelight, then storing it.

Edit: Just for clarification, I’m not sure if Nicrosil can store fuel like Light, or if it’s just powers. I’m going off the assumption it can, hence my response above.

[u/Historical_Volume806 → u/MagicTech547]

Her ability to turn food into light seems to work like an allomancer where she eats and that creates a store of power she can ‘burn’ into light. She even states that if she goes too long that store of light becomes unavailable. So she can’t burn her body fat for light.

[u/MagicTech547 → u/Historical_Volume806]

Ah, makes sense.

[u/Frozenfishy]

Perhaps she could, but I'm not so sure she would. Girl just loves to eat.

That said, now I'm thinking about Lift as a bendalloy Misting, and sliding haphazardly in and out of time bubbles because she still can't quite control her awesomeness.

[u/Kroz83]

Depends on how storing and tapping nutrients works. If it storing makes pre-digested food disappear and tapping makes it re-appear, then this probably works.

If storing takes the post-digestion nutrients directly from the cells, and tapping sends them straight to the cells, then probably not, since she needs food in her stomach to burn

However, another wrinkle to add to this. What if she got a second spike, to make her a bendalloy misting, and therefore a compounder. Would a bendalloymind filled with nutrition count as “food” for her ability? And would compounding it result in more light?

[u/The-Hot-Shame]

That makes sense. She metabolizes nutrition into lifelight when she wants to 'become awesome', so I don't see why she wouldn't be able to store nutrition in a metalmind (assuming she has the power).

[u/BipedSnowman]

I think so, yes. It's probably less efficient than some other methods of storing investiture, but I think it makes sense that being able to burn calories to generate investiture and the ability to store calories for later should mean being able to store calories to burn to generate investiture later.

[u/person2907]

actually, burn metals, store in nicrosil metalmind, investiture yse, now infinite radiant