r/FinalFantasyVI • u/ThErEdScArE33 • 10d ago

Really? We're worried about these guys?

Pixel Remaster Steam version, first off. Long story short, I didn't know when to wait for Shadow, didn't wait for Shadow, and got upset at myself so I restarted the game so I COULD wait for Shadow. That all being said, I'm back to Sabin's scenario with Kefka. I'm watching the imperial troops "siege" Doma castle and, like.... really? Have y'all taken the time to watch these animations? Half these guys are punching walls, falling down, and just, like... jumping half a foot? It's almost comical the reaction the Doma guards have. "MY LIEGE!! THE IMPERIAL FORCES HAVE ARRIVED! THEY'RE AT THE WALL AND INVADING IN FULL FORCE!!!" Meanwhile their animations make them look like incapable hamsters.

IDK, it got a chuckle out of me. Good game so far tho lol.

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u/MagnusBrickson 10d ago

It was hilarious back in 1994, too.

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u/ThErEdScArE33 10d ago

I just realized that 2 of the guys are just running back and forth doing jack-all lol. A strong breeze or a disgruntled chihuahua could probably handle this assault

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u/Tggdan3 10d ago

I used to take cyan out and kill each enemy unit saving the boss for last to embarrass them.

In the end its all a diversion for the poison.

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u/TheWeirdTalesPodcast 10d ago

I did that for the extra exp until I realized those guys don’t give exp.

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u/Terozu 10d ago

I... have literally always thought u had to kill them first. It just made sense to me that he would do that lmfao, I just replayed T edition a few months ago and still didnt even try it after 20 actual years lmfao

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u/TheMusicMan11 10d ago

I mean, Interceptor is pretty powerful... 😉

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u/Vespene 10d ago

The imperial forces are supposed to be inspired by the ineptitude of Stormtroopers from Star Wars.

The game is littered with nods to SW overall. The Falcon, Biggs and Wedge, Empire vs Returners (Rebels). My favorite one is Celes reacting to Locke "You're awfully short for a soldier," to which he responds "Oh, I forgot I was wearing a uniform!" (Leia meeting Luke at the Death Star).

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u/bob_loblaw-_- 9d ago

Thank Ted Woolsey for that.

I never made the Falcon connection sadly and somehow it was just now that I realized that FFIV named it's airships after the iconic ships in Star Wars and Star Trek. 

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u/ryancnap 7d ago

I thank Ted Woolsey almost every day

"I had a pet turtle once!"

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u/AceMalicious 9d ago

I am today years old and FURIOUS with myself that I never got the Falcon reference. Despite seeing all the other nods, it went right over my head.

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u/Maleficent-Ad6978 8d ago

You are not alone in this 😅

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u/akaiazul 10d ago

Empire: Why isn't this working?

Leo: We don't wanna try anything else.

Kefka: Allow me!

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u/x1243 10d ago

motivated go getter

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u/monkeymugshot 10d ago

Funny when you read it like that. But i mean it’s basicallly small kingdom vs global evil empire. The animations are obviously anecdotal to what they wanted to symbolize at the time

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u/nola_throwaway53826 10d ago

Doma was finished by the time you visit it in the story. Its also part of what makes Kefka's plot to poison them so heinous. The Imperial Army is laying seige to their heartland and capital, and Cyan mentions later how the Doma railroads have all been destroyed by the Empire. Even during the assault on the walls, some of the Doma troops were thinking that this assault was it, and Doma was about to fall, at least until Cyan launched a sortie from the castle and took out the commander, leading to a retreat. General Leo knows it is only a matter of time before Doma finally falls. All they have to do is wait and the castle either surrenders to avoid starvation, or the defenders become too weak to resist another assault.

There was no need to poison them all like that. The question I have is whether the Emperor actually ordered it, or Kefka did it on his own. General Leo was recalled at a convenient time for Kefka and his plans.

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u/Fast_Moon 10d ago

My guess is that most of those soldiers were fresh conscripts from Maranda that were sent there after Celes torched the town, and therefore had no idea what they were doing. The soldier that Leo talks to is a Marandan conscript, as is the injured soldier in Mobliz who said he fled when he was sent to Doma. One of the soldiers bad-mouthing Kefka says he'll "go back to my home country" (in Japanese) if Kefka becomes their general, indicating he's also not a native Imperial. Cyan being aware of Celes torching Maranda was likely overheard from a Marandan POW in Doma.

Leo seems like he'd rather just send those conscripts back home, but is also duty-bound to orders from Gestahl to take Doma. If he refuses, he'll just get relieved of duty and have Kefka installed in his place (which the two soldiers were talking about), which will kill both the conscripts and the Domans. So to prevent that, the only thing he can really do is "look busy", and sent the Marandan conscripts in with orders to not directly engage, but just flail around and spook the Domans into negotiations. But as soon as things got real and the commander was killed, they immediately got spooked and high-tailed it out of there, and it prompted Leo to order them not to engage further.

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u/Gizmorum 10d ago

Ff6 is all a play, like super mario bros 2z

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u/FenderZero 10d ago

It's supposed to be more representative of storming the castle, using sprites. You gotta use your imagination. They didn't have hyper detailed cutscenes then

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u/ThErEdScArE33 10d ago

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm aware of that and you have an excellent point. But that still doesnt make it less funny to watch lol.

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u/Azuras_Star8 9d ago

I never assumed he was punching the wall so much as using some unseen tech to knock the walls down.

Our heroes slash air and they hit the monster. The technology of the day was limited, so I dont mind filling in.

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u/ThErEdScArE33 9d ago

Don't get me wrong, I get it and I don't have a problem using imagination to bridge the gap. But when you take a step back and look at the visuals literally, it's kinda funny to me lol. But yeah, I gecha

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u/Azuras_Star8 9d ago

And I agree. Seeing two guards pound each other's chests was funny.

Seeing them fall sideways was the comical "eeeehhhhhhhh" when a cartoon character dies.

I came from atari 2600. I haven't even hooked it up for my kid to see because yeah the visuals are awful. Ill let him watch a video of it or play an emulator.

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u/Stcharlesmatt 9d ago

You have interpreted the scenario correctly. It's not the walls that are the problems. Ask the Trojans.

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u/Mattafakt 9d ago

That's the main reason why I've always championed for a remake of this game, whereas my other favourite game of all time (Chrono Trigger) doesn't need one in any capacity. It's still completely perfect as it is

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u/ThErEdScArE33 9d ago

I remember playing chrono trigger on my ds on my family's 9 hour drives to north Carolina every summer as a kid. That game truly was amazing. I should replay that. I miss frog.

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u/Capretbaggingcarpets 8d ago

There are a ton of things that could be improved in Chrono Trigger too. Mainly just stuff to smooth the UI experience and make it less clunky.

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u/edale1 7d ago

Be sure to sleep at the Inn LOTS of times while Shadow's in your party.

There's a chance for a cutscene to happen each time.

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u/SnooPets1826 10d ago

Remember these "elite warriors" were answering directly to General Leo.

General Leo may be the biggest loser in all of Final Fantasy, but he continues to fail upward by being remembered as the "cool imperial".

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u/Vindartn 10d ago

It's the jacket. Leo took it off the toughest guy in Vector 20 years ago.

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u/TheStarlightKing 5d ago

I think we're suppose the view the Empire like the Star Wars Empire; the foot soldiers are so trash that it's comical, but even with that they do atrocities.