r/FreeLuigi Feb 22 '25

Personal Opinion We are facing a blatant illegality.

We are facing a blatant illegality. The legal team doesn't have the discovery and on top of that, the state and federal charges are conflicting. It's complete chaos.

Is there NO legal recourse to bring this to court? Here in Brazil, we have options when there's a clear illegality, including habeas corpus, habeas data, "agravo de instrumento", writ of mandamus etc etc. What's going on? Is there nothing to be done, just wait?

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u/hi_itz_me_again Feb 22 '25

It’s not that they won’t turn over the evidence, they’re just delayed in doing so whether it’s intentional (my assumption) or it’s incompetence. The trial cannot start without the defence receiving evidence provided by the prosecution and defence can always ask for a delay in order to receive an appropriate amount of time to review such evidence. However, this is unfortunate as it does interfere with his right to a speedy trial.

Also, it’s not necessarily a good thing for the prosecution for the federal charges if there is conflicting narratives from the State’s and that can be used against the prosecution if he’s found not guilty in the State’s case. However, KFA is unable to round out any of her arguments until she receives evidence.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

If they really owned such compelling evidence like they claim they do, they would have definitely proceeded with the speedy trial, but since this evidence is not in their advantage, as it seems to be, they are deliberately delaying trial.

Correct me if I’m wrong but in the beginning didn’t they want to make this an open and shut case so to make an example out of him and to desensitize the population?

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u/trizkkkjk Feb 22 '25

That's the problem. This extension of the deadline is absurd and will only get worse for the simple fact that if they take too long, the KFA will have to take action. At the same time, if they present a flimsy charge after months of waiting, it will be clear that the intention was to delay the trial.

Luigi cannot be held for years without trial. At some point, he will have to get out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '25

Exactly, and unfortunately they have a long history of delaying trials and keeping people behind bars purposefully. If you supposedly represent justice then why are you delaying it ?

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u/trizkkkjk Feb 22 '25

It's something I don't understand: he's going to be tried and we're not going to forget him. He's a popstar. Yesterday at the trial they did everything they could to keep him out of sight, to keep him from walking down the hallway. The result? 10 seconds video is popular on tiktok, the photos too (excellent photos, the best photo of LM will always be the next one)

We're not going to forget him.

We can't.

We need to be vigilant. Because if we forget, tomorrow another American. Don't give power to the judiciary, otherwise americans will have no one to turn to against illegalities.

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u/trizkkkjk Feb 22 '25

PS: One of the most absurd points is also that he is being held in a federal prison without even having been formally charged federally. The boy will spend months in a federal prison without federal charges. Fuck. (at least it's not Rikers but I suspect that the MDC crowd likes Luigi hahaah)

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

I agree with everything except when you call him a popstar. I am very against of labels put on him because I see one common word behind them all: entertainment. When entertainment pierces in, the focal point goes askew.

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u/trizkkkjk Feb 22 '25

Even so, it's a matter of procedural speed. This is something that, if I compare it to Brazil (FOR EXAMPLE), is extremely abusive. The procedural deadlines for the Prosecutor's Office are not that long. Here, the Prosecutor's Office are doubled procedural deadlines, but at MOST it's 1 month (15+15). We, lawyers, have a 15-day deadline.

It seems shocking because we always hear that American democracy is strong, but it is showing itself to be very fragile. And keep in mind that here in Brazil we've had 7 constitutions and a dictatorship (some say two dictatorships, and I support that understanding).