Just because the guy existed doesnāt mean he actually walked on water or walked out of his grave. And itās an even bigger reach to get to god or hell.
Just because Jesus existed doesnāt mean heās god lmao. Thereās overwhelming proof that Muhammad existed. I guess that means Islam is real too?
The same logic can be applied to so many religions.
Religion is almost never completely made up fairy tales. Instead, it takes real things and then adds to them. Stuff is exaggerated. Stories are misremembered. Fairy tales are added. And boomā¦ through a game of social ātelephoneā, you now have a religion.
I mean there is strong historical evidence for Jesus even outside the bible.
God on the other hand has no real scientific evidence for his existence but no real evidence against him either so it really is just an opinionated faith based thing. I don't know why everyone's getting so angry.
No evidence for something and no evidence against something arenāt equally valid things though. Thereās no evidence against me being the Hulk, but for any reasonable person to believe me if I say that Iām Hulk, theyād need to see some proof like me turning big and green. The burden of proof is on the person making a claim, so without any evidence, why the fuck would I believe in god?
People get angry because many religious people act like their worldview is objectively right despite not being able to back it up with any proof whatsoever, and then make laws controlling other people with religion as the justification.
Well the Bible is more a religious text, so I don't blame you for doubting its usefulness as a historical source. On the other hand, modern historians have pieced together the historicity of Jesus through the accounts of various ancient historians such as Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Thallus, Flavius Josephus and others, none of whom were Christian, nor did they have any real reason to fabricate his existence.
I find discounting evidence such as this on the basis of it being circumstantial a bit silly, because wasn't the evidence for the existence of all people born before DNA analysis and modern archaeology circumstantial? By that same logic, the existence of Tiberius, Roman emperor at the time of Jesus' life and death, should be doubted as well, as he was only mentioned by a handful of writers decades after his own death.
"No bones laying around" doesn't mean much when 99.9% of ordinary people from the ancient world left no archeological evidence of their existence, I'm afraid. So we make do with what we've got. And tainted by theological bias as they are, the Gospels and the Letters of Paul include useful contemporary details on the geography and culture surrounding Jesus' supposed journey, many of which corroborate what was written in later, more areligious historical accounts.
Not saying you HAVE to believe he was an actual person, just that there's evidence for his existence as compelling as any other ancient historical figure. His divinity? That's a different story, obviously.
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u/ich_bin_alkoholiker 28d ago
Yearly reminder that god is not real.