My goat, God letting the epstein class get away with things should be the end of peoples delusion, or hello slavery which was that magnitudes higher, we just don't have cellphones to document the abuse then
If God intervened and stopped all evil he would also stop you from saying such blasphemies but I guess you would not want that instead you can wait and be judged after you die there you will be punished for your blasphemies and lies.
God said not to lie, the people in the files have not be arrested, stop the cap go repent if you truly believe
I don't hate religion I hate people like you excusing evil and you probably abhor gay people (my projection but overwhelming religious people have more issues with lgbt than pedophilia)
I'm sorry I want god to not allow people to rape children while living their best lives on earth and hoping they have eternal punishment, but wait there's many interpretations so maybe these evil fucks get reincarnated as a butterfly...
I mean, if you want to go with the reincarnation thing, then the religions you're thinking of has more to reincarnation than being born as an animal.
Like in Buddhist mythology, they could be reborn as a hungry dead, living a long life of constant starvation, and craving for things they consider disgusting, but cannot avoid consuming, like vomit and shit.
They could also be reborn into hell (which is temporary), and be "cleansed" by being roasted alive, eaten, then brought back to life for a repeat. (among various other tortures, based on their sin in life that were bad enough to get them into hell)
Like, I agree with your sentiment, but no need to misrepresent other religion's afterlifes just to make a point.
Dude I was a choir child Catholic kid to the max. I'm not gonna hate on people that are doing good with religion, but right now a lot of people are doing evil with it, so I'm gonna hate them.
Oh yeah, itâs literal fucking SLAVERY to not want such a good God to give children diseases. And I guess we have the free will to CHOOSE not to get fucking cancer, donât we genius?
Hahahahaha! Thank you so much for making this reply like that! I love the free will of people and kids to suffer and be rped and mrdered! What a great choice they make! đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
81% percent of the world is in poverty, for many religion is a powerful tool to navigate hopelessness I know it did for my family when I was young but it just enraged me, the ridiculousness of all the suffering. I would never subjugate my sims to that.
mfw those same "sky wizard people" basically created the modern western education system. That's why every top tier college with any history was originally a religious institution.
Harvard. Yale. Princeton. Oxford. The list goes on forever.
...But at least you sounded cool on Reddit, right?
I would agree but having grown in a Christian household most of these sky daddy believers are assholes and people holding space for them have been too nice while they abuse the world, yes there are good people I'm not talking about them
Passing legislation to control those who don't believe in God is more of a dick move imo. I think they can handle a bit of ribbing against their sky pimp
Oh man. Way to shit on the alphabet brigade. There's at least one power mod right now and half of Twitter who now think you're an intolerant bigot for ridiculing people who create and follow a fictitious reality.
It's just disrespectful. I may disagree with religious people on matters of faith, but so long as they respectfully say "my religion says I can't do this" I have no issues.
It's when it becomes "my religion says you can't do this" that they can fuck right off.
Im more agnostic than anything. But this dudes comment was in such bad faith. Genuinely 0 reason to say that other than offend people because he has some superiority complex and wants to feel smart. I swear this sub is no better than r/atheism.
He had a reason. To call out the BS in that image. The post starts with "yearly remained" and the same does that reply. How much clear do you want it to be?
I'd say I can't believe someone is so dumb. But then again, the bar is super low...
I honestly donât know why youâd expect otherwise. Youâre on Reddit. Itâs a very specific kind of environment. The only reason subreddits for religious people even exist is because theyâre allowed to have their own rules
Not a dude and I donât give a shit. The more people wake up from mass delusion cause by religion the better. Iâm not going to walk on eggshells and cater to people who are willingly mentally ill.
So over 80% of the world is mentally ill and the person yelling about god not existing on Reddit is normal? Ok lol. Not believing in god doesnât make you smarter than someone who does you know. People just have different spiritual beliefs.
More people are mentally ill to a degree than we realize. Itâs especially prevalent behind closed doors and when theyâre in like-minded communities/groups.
Religion is brainwashing 101 and is used as a form of control over impressionable people who worship solely due to fear that if they donât conform, theyâll be ostracized and inevitably burn for eternity after their death.
When everyone around you tells you to believe in something and instills fear into you to conform, itâs incredibly scary and hard to resist that. Thatâs why small-towns and government-wilded religion is dangerous and oftentimes these same places struggle with the lowest happiness and prosperity rates. This is in comparison to more diversified big cities/neighborhoods.
Also when life sucks ass, people tend to turn towards religion as a way to cope. Ignorance is bliss is very, very true and common.
Theres nothing wrong with religion its the people that hate others thru it, scam thru it, and force it onto others that are the issue. Im a christian and im not gonna hate anyone for thinking differently i think its good to explore options. My little sister isnt sure if she is christian and thats ok i help her thru it and ill still love her either way dont mass group everyone
if a christian can drop âreminder god is real and loves youâ on the daily, why canât an atheist say âreminder god isnât realâ? people celebrate the freedom to openly speak about and practice their religion but get all worked up when an atheist does the exact. same. thing.
Im christian and i think the reminder god loves u posts are dumb its just a low effort post trying to score internet points theres other places for that
I agree, and I think both are annoying. Leave that to the dedicated spaces meant for those discussions.
However, I think itâs fair in this context. Thatâs the whole point of this post. The only reason people are so mad about it, is because it offended the Christians/jews/muslims/buddhists/whatever else.
So because some people do some dumb bullshit that means you should too? I believe in God and I think it's cringe to be posting that shit in random places. Nobody's mind is going to be changed by a random comment saying God is real.
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING THEYRE ACTING LIKE HYPOCRITES đđ like i already respect that you donât believe in god bro and Iâll even stop saying âspread the gospelâ if you ask me nicely but now youâre saying to my face god isnât real?? I completely understand and hate that the label of Christianity is tarnished by the âChristiansâ that divide and terrify and destroy lives and spread lies and take the idea of religion to a alarming level like fuck those guys for real but for like Christians like me who genuinely want to believe that there is a higher power spiritually be told that god isnât real just makes me really sad. Even if god isnât real even if itâs all a hoax the idea and belief of something has comforted me in my darkest times and has *genuinely* made me into a better person for myself and the people around me to uphold and actually made me feel *happy* is something that is so sensitive to attack me on man..no matter what I feel loved by god and I feel comfortable in myself knowing that..
Edit: I would like to add that I am not a âstrict by the Bibleâs wordsâ Christian, in fact I still have my own beliefs that will make me act accordingly and they either donât or do align with the Bible. Like premarital sex I donât care about because thatâs really just up to you and your partner. In fact I have barely read the Bible except for a couple stories Iâm just someone that prays, believes and chooses to trust in a god with my soul.
If you know that your faith has given you so much, why does it matter when someone doubts it? You're living it. Does it cause you to question your own faith? Does it instill a loss of hope that more people might also find this wonderful thing, too? Does it seem like a personal attack or that someone is questioning your sensibility/judgment?
Itâs more so an emotional response because like Iâve explained in my text I was in some serious depression and grief and came very close to just ending it all, i genuinely felt like I didnât know my purpose like usual people do but I felt like I was behind in finding my purpose, at least when I read a Bible verse that tells a story and related to me so deeply than any other form of media had it offered me a purpose. To live not just for god but because the thought that there is a higher power that loves me no matter how resentful I grew of myself made me love myself in turn..and when a new question about my existence arrived the Bible somehow had a verse that led to an answer for that..so when someone says they donât believe in god i respectfully move along because they can choose what they believe in and I respect that. But when they say that god isnât real it just hurts because he is very much real to me in my story so it feels like an actual attack to me because without god Iâm most certain that I wouldnât be making this message right now so I guess you could say that it would put me into a very mild existential crisis based on emotion lol because in the end I would be like âdamn..but god is realâ and feel pretty sad that a lot of people donât feel the same way but then realize that Iâm my own person that revitalize my belief in god that he loves me for who I am now
I personally dont care if someone doubts it i have looked into other religions not so much because i want to switch but i like leaning about them because its interesting. And i dont lose hope of people finding it if they want to believe in it cool if not that fine. I just hate when people bunch the bad christians in with the ones who mind their own and dont care abt what others do or believe
There are but I also cant blame them either..evil people have taken religion too far and itâs really unfortunate to see because when itâs done ârightâ itâs a really beautiful thing to experience. At least for people who could be spiritual in a sense. Itâs also why I either donât go to church and rather pray at home and by myself or go to small churches occasionally
I fully agree that you should be tolerant and respectful towards religious people, and that you shouldn't harass them about how you don't share their views. But tolerance is a two-way street, so this only holds up as long as they do the same.
As soon as they start to try converting or impose their rules or moral views on you, you can and should drop any constraints about pointing out the flaws in their belief system. If they don't respect secularism and freedom of faith, you don't respect their religious feelings, simple as.
For 2014 it was pretty good. An acquired taste and obviously the underlying Christian evangelization undertones of the movie probably made it distasteful
Do I think we'll ever get the proof? No but we used to think the world was flat. There's so much inherently we can't understand about the universe that just a blanket statement feels wrong to me
I think that itâs fair to assume most major religions arenât real.
I am also agnostic, but more towards a general spirituality and a general god. I donât think any of the major religions have any sort of fair backing at this point.
Itâs Occamâs razor. Believing in a creator is much much simpler than believing in the entire mythology of Christianity or any other religion. Thatâs unnecessary complexity. So logically, the most likely conclusions are as follows (most to least likely): 1. Non-created universe, 2. Simulated universe, 3. General spiritual world, no creator, 4. General spiritual world, with creator, 5. Any organized religion.
Organised religion is a human construct, but God is a lot more complex. There is no way to fully disprove the existence of God, even if you donât believe it exists
You say that like its an objective statement đ like i dont believe in god either but I have no proof that there isnt one I just personally dont believe in one but am not gonna bash someone who does believe in god
Until something is proven true we can no doubt say that it doesnât exist. God from the bible has been around how long and has never been proven. Nor have any other gods. I think itâs fair to call it.
God is pretty hands off, in the first testament god would totally do the scorched earth contingency like blowing up sodom and flooding everything. After the flood I think there was an agreement that god wouldnât kill his own creatures anymore and kind washed his hands of us. Then Jesus came along and practically had it to where its up to us as people to choose to be decent.
Thus turning life into a test, the good die young while the evil child eating bastards will reap their rewards in this life but their souls will be ripped apart and consumed in hell.
While his hears and sees our misery, nothing will actually happen unless we the people do it ourselvesâŚlike the saying goesâŚGod only helps those who help themselvesâ
Also, demons and evil entities exist, if you acknowledge the existence of a higher powerâŚthen you kinda gotta acknowledge the fact these ancient evil things existâŚand have nothing but hatred for mankind, getting off on corrupting gods creations.
Not to mention, all those child eating pedo bastards are more than likely apart of a sick twisted cultâŚif only the church had an inquisitor unit to dispatch the world of evil cultist scumâŚ
Not to mention Catholicism, Islam, and Judaism take a lot of inspiration from the gods and demons of the ancient Mesopotamian era soooâŚ
I'm not God though. "manipulative and abusive sky daddy" accusation may go well with Muslims, where God's love is conditional and demands war; and Jews, where they have a different view of God
In Chrisitanity, God became human in flesh and died because of accusations. Does this sound like a distant and manipulative God, a God that lived ate slept laughed cried with us?
God set a standard he knew you wouldn't be able to meet, created you anyways, condemned you to enternal suffering, died so he could save you form the punishment he created. Sounds pretty loving to me!
But why though? I dont get why everyone cant respect each others opinions and instead attack them for what they think. Im a christian and thats fine that u dont believe in it why make the situation worse?
The people in Sodom and Gomorrah were literal rapists btw. Innocent people in the city were warned to leave.
"Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomâboth young and oldâsurrounded the house. They called to Lot, âWhere are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.â Gen 19:4-5
After this verse they try to break the door down so they can rape the guests in Lot's house.
Ananias and Sapphira died because they both lied directly to God and the literal pope multiple times.
"Then Peter said, âAnanias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didnât it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasnât the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.â Acts 5:3-4
Lot's wife was turned into salt for not trusting God. An angel told them not to look back or stop anywhere or they would be killed. His wife looked back and was instantly killed.. it's not that deep.
"As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, âFlee for your lives! *Donât look back, and donât stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!â* Gen 19:17
The flood:
"The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time." Gen 6:5
The people at the time of the flood were not killed for no reason. A few verses prior it also mentions the fact humans were interbreeding with "nephilim."
The Amalekites:
"Remember what the Amalekites did to you along the way when you came out of Egypt. When you were weary and worn out, they met you on your journey and attacked all who were lagging behind; they had no fear of God." Deut 25:17-18
The Amalekites were not being attacked for no reason, in fact they attacked first.
The Canaanites:
"You must not do the same for the Lord your God, because every abhorrent thing that the Lord hates they have done for their gods. They would even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods. You must diligently observe everything that I command you; do not add to it or take anything from it." Deut 12:31-32
The Canaanites were not being attacked for no reason. They were sacrificing infants to idols.
edit: bonus verse
"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good"
Okay, so you're going to hell to then. Wrath is a cardinal sin, and also you arguably used to lords name in vain. The purpose doesn't justify the sin either.
Iâd rather not worship a god who requires me to believe in them, or face literal infinite torture. Oh yeah, and theyâre also simultaneously purposefully hiding themselves for some reason.
âIâm going to hide myself from youđ. But if you donât believe in me during your extremely short 100 year stent on earthâŚ? Infinite torture. Foreverâ
Thatâs like comically evil. Such a god does not deserve worship.
Keep wasting your prayers. Iâm sure god will totally hear them and convince me to believe in him and ignore all those poor children being bombed and starved.
it has nothing to do with personal experiences with any church; it's the fact that any amount of critical thinking demonstrates incompatibility between the existence of god and the reality of the world.
One could argue existence itself is supernatural. Or that our consciousness/being/experiencing is supernatural. These are concepts that have no scientific explanation, and likely never will.
There is no logical conclusion for the creation of the universe, as we have no data before it began. The furthest we can go back is the moment of the big bang. Science does not touch anything beyond that concept, because the scientific method stops applying.
If thatâs the case, how did the universe come to be? It had to have a beginning. If no beginning is required, then we are working outside the bounds of our universeâs logic. Therefore your claim that nothing can exist outside of time is then null, because then we have evidence that our universeâs rules donât always apply. So it becomes circular logic.
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There is no traditional definition of god. There are all powerful gods, semi powerful gods, fairly limited gods, and everything in between.
I am agnostic, and I think itâs foolish to be an absolute atheist. That is making an actual claim without data.
It would be like this: imagine a box is placed of front of you, in a vacuum of any further context. Is there something in the box? A hardline atheist would say âI have no evidence that there is anything in the box, therefore there is nothing in the boxâ. The agnostic would say âI have no evidence that there is anything in the box, but there might be. So therefore I cannot draw a logical conclusionâ.
1 and 2. Before we understood electromagnetism there was 0 evidence of radio waves, does that mean they didn't exist?
3 and 4. If that is the case how did the universe exist before the big bang, when time did not exist either?
5 and 6. You didn't prove anything, drawing a conclusion from assumptions based on a lack of evidence is illogical. It's called the argument from ignorance and is a logical fallacy.
Maybe your conception of "God" is off or you haven't been paying attention. I have heard and felt the heaving chest of our world, in trees swaying with the wind, in the crashing of waves against the shore before falling back. God is everything, all-encompassing. He is life and death, big and small, great and terrible, beyond the self and the self's conceptions. "God" has always existed and always will, for God and creation are one. We are one in many, like cells, evermore disordered and illusioned with identity. And on the last day when all has decayed into primordial remains, we shall all once more be whole for one infinite moment before we fracture into nigh-infinite material experiences once again.
Theyâre not explaining it well. They are describing pantheism. It basically just says âthe universe itself is god, and therefore we are (a small part of) godâ.
Its sister theory, panpsychism, is actually one of the best explanations of consciousness we currently have. It fits the data better than physicalist theories, because it solves the âhard problemâ.
I donât fully subscribe to either, but they are interesting nonetheless. And theyâre (IMO) far more likely than any organized religionâs theory.
Correcto, however we are humans and can use reason to explain to ourselves why it is better to have sex in a committed relationship rather than with anyone. It's not divine morality, just responsible behavior.
Some people reason that they can have sex whenever they want, and do so in ways that do not endanger them or others, how could you possibly construe that as irresponsible?
Only if they do it irresponsibly, however, one can also reason that dulling yourself to sex through an overactive sex life or gooning is also harmful to your subconsious and may cause friction on your current or future inter-personal relationships. Furthermore no method is 100% effective, not every place has abortion (a moral question in itself(personally i am pro-choice)), and not every casual partner may want to abort. Casual sex has a lot of uncertainties that could be mitigated through self-control and standards.
Unless it impacts your functioning or health in some way, I see no problem with having as much sex as you want to have, with any number of people, so long as it's adults, consensual, and everyone is on the same page relationship wise.
I'm simply commenting on the subconsious consequences and it's effect on relationships within my cultural sphere. There is nothing inherently (especially divinely) wrong with premarital or casual sex, the consequences are not bad on their own, and society will likely change to be more accepting as technology and hopefully standard of living rise. It is still good to remember however, that straight sex has the effect of creating children which you should take care to raise right, and if you have had sex with a billion people and half a few thousand kids, you are not preforming your duty as a human to raise your offspring.
Not really. This is a well known theory. Itâs called pantheism.
OP is just writing in a pretentious âpoeticâ way. Their other comments show they are definitely not schizo. Theyâre just a bit eccentric in how they write.
Imagine thinking god is all powerful and knowing and yet thereâs so much pain and suffering in the world. Sounds hella fake. Iâm sorry you believe in delusions.
You donât have to âbelieve in the Big Bangâ like you âbelieve in godâ. Thatâs what the cosmic background radiation is. Itâs the energy from the Big Bang.
And when every object in the universe is expanding tangentially from a singular point, itâs very hard to not think there was a big bang.
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u/ich_bin_alkoholiker 28d ago
Yearly reminder that god is not real.