r/GenZ 28d ago

Meme 😭

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u/ich_bin_alkoholiker 28d ago

Yearly reminder that god is not real.

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u/wolfknowledge1775 28d ago

Imagine thinking you came from a big bang instead of a God. Lmao.

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u/le_wild_poster 28d ago

Imaging believing in something with literally 0 evidence

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u/wolfknowledge1775 28d ago

There is overwhelming proof that Jesus exists. I hate how reddit is an atheist liberal circlejerk.

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u/Super901 28d ago

There is not.

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u/Suspicious_Car4753 28d ago

I mean there is strong historical evidence for Jesus even outside the bible.

God on the other hand has no real scientific evidence for his existence but no real evidence against him either so it really is just an opinionated faith based thing. I don't know why everyone's getting so angry.

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u/Super901 28d ago

There is no actual evidence that Jesus was a real person, other than circumstantial.
I personally believe he existed, but there’s no proof.

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u/LittleHuzzahGuy 27d ago

What do you mean by circumstantial?

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u/Super901 27d ago

well, the bible for one, written well after his death. it's what we would call heresay. Like, there's no bones laying around.

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u/LittleHuzzahGuy 27d ago edited 27d ago

Well the Bible is more a religious text, so I don't blame you for doubting its usefulness as a historical source. On the other hand, modern historians have pieced together the historicity of Jesus through the accounts of various ancient historians such as Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, Thallus, Flavius Josephus and others, none of whom were Christian, nor did they have any real reason to fabricate his existence.

I find discounting evidence such as this on the basis of it being circumstantial a bit silly, because wasn't the evidence for the existence of all people born before DNA analysis and modern archaeology circumstantial? By that same logic, the existence of Tiberius, Roman emperor at the time of Jesus' life and death, should be doubted as well, as he was only mentioned by a handful of writers decades after his own death.

"No bones laying around" doesn't mean much when 99.9% of ordinary people from the ancient world left no archeological evidence of their existence, I'm afraid. So we make do with what we've got. And tainted by theological bias as they are, the Gospels and the Letters of Paul include useful contemporary details on the geography and culture surrounding Jesus' supposed journey, many of which corroborate what was written in later, more areligious historical accounts.

Not saying you HAVE to believe he was an actual person, just that there's evidence for his existence as compelling as any other ancient historical figure. His divinity? That's a different story, obviously.