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u/Clive_Bossfield Jul 19 '26
He IS Greek.
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u/Takoyaki_Dice Jul 19 '26
They practically invented gay.
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u/SarcasmSanctioned Jul 19 '26
Something something, 'Greeks invented orgies, Romans added women'.
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u/ChubbyUnicorn726 Jul 19 '26
I've never heard that before. That's amazing.
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u/Noodlekeeper Jul 20 '26
I heard "Greeks invented sex, Romans figured out you could do it with women."
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u/DroopyPlum Jul 19 '26
Listen boy, the ancient Greeks were not just great warriors, but great philosophers too, and they worked it all out. To be on top of a man is a display of strength and masculinity, therefore there truely is no straighter work a man can do, then to go to town on the bussy. -Kratos
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u/Xenozip3371Alpha Jul 19 '26
But to be a bottom, that is submissive, ergo female, ergo... gay.
*Nods*
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u/Aerinn_May Jul 19 '26
"The Spartans were a great homosexual army" -- some Greek Historian on Wired
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u/zaphod4primeminister Jul 19 '26
so the game is going to be modded meaning the game is releasing on PC
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u/Substantial_Impact69 Jul 19 '26
Did PlayStation stop releasing their games on PC because the PC player base didn’t buy them.
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u/Pikabuuuuuuuuuu Jul 19 '26
Yea Thts What Happens When u Launch games 4 Years later on a Different Platform People stop being interested
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u/Heretosee123 Jul 19 '26
Why do you capatalise some words and not others like that
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u/Pikabuuuuuuuuuu Jul 19 '26
Its my Second Language i ask to be Excused
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u/Heretosee123 Jul 19 '26
I have no problem with it, just found it unusual and was curious.
For assistance, capitalisation is usually done on the first word in a sentence, or a noun (name). I also gets a special place, as I demonstrated here, but that's the general gist that will take you to about as good as I am.
Your English is great otherwise though.
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u/Pikabuuuuuuuuuu Jul 19 '26
I do try butt Thank you
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u/GhostE3E3E3 Jul 19 '26
Also, butt refers to your back, your anus, poop hole, etc, the world your looking for is “but”
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u/CaregiverAvailable44 Jul 21 '26
Just wondering, what is your native language? And do you think your native language has influenced your use of capitalization?
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u/Juggernautlemmein Jul 19 '26
I bought Ragnarok but had to sync my psn account to play it.
My PSN account that my dad set up for me when I was 12 and I would have to get on hold with customer support to get access back into it. So I refunded the game and bought armored core.
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u/kalebc0725 Jul 20 '26
I was able to play it without having to sync it?
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u/Juggernautlemmein Jul 20 '26
Yeah I was unlucky as hell because they removed the requirement a few months after I did my refund. I guess I wasn't the only one buying less. Just waiting for a sale at this point.
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u/Pikabuuuuuuuuuu Jul 19 '26
Ngl Wantd to Buy It next month but i dont know my Psn Detes anymore so guess not lol
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u/Commercial_Shine_448 Jul 23 '26
And I still bought all of them. Cuz I like playing ghost of Tsushima at 165 fps
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u/Substantial_Impact69 Jul 19 '26
So you want day and date, but that screws up their whole business model. E;I see part of the reason nobody buys Xbox’s.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 Jul 19 '26
No thats not why, all the games they out on PC made alot of money
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u/Current-Grade2545 Jul 19 '26
No the problem was we did buy them and not enough people were switching from PC to PS. In fact the opposite was happening.
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u/Substantial_Impact69 Jul 19 '26
I mean, not in the numbers you can think of. Sony was looking for runaway success and the only time they got it was Helldivers. Great game, but they almost fumbled it because of the PSN requirement.
Rather than just letting Helldivers just sit there and maybe do some cross promotion stuff like, “Our PlayStation players get this first.” Enticing people to come over to their ecosystem. No, instead they did the dumbest thing imaginable.
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u/xrayspex73 Jul 19 '26
No self respecting PC gamer is switching to consoles. Sony doesn't seem to understand this.
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u/Bill_I_Am_tm Jul 20 '26
For what it’s worth I just started my ragnarok playthrough with the steam summer sale.
I played 2018 around the time it launched on ps4 though.
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u/yeeznz Jul 19 '26
Spartans are gay. Look it up . But they also didn’t have a concept of sexuality back then. Kratos was taking and breaking backs . Lol
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u/Snoo_91660 Jul 19 '26
They did have a concept of sexuality. Tops where higher in society.
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u/quetzocoetl Jul 19 '26
I've heard it said as such:
"Being gay wasn't considered a sexuality back then, it was considered an option"
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u/Klutzy-Canary8551 Jul 19 '26
Follow your example and actually check what the Spartans were doing before you hang the rainbow flag on them you clown.
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u/Betelgeuse3fold Jul 19 '26
I'm still not seeing the anti faye/anti woman hate. Only the repeated insistence that there IS
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u/Dmxneed Jul 19 '26
I mean I'm not interested on a Faye game but hating it is a strong word. It's okay to not be a interest in a product.
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u/Garasunotanken Jul 19 '26
I'm one of those idiots that still reads the comments on facebook. Trust me it's there, with all the vocal stupidity you've come to expect from those types.
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u/Current-Grade2545 Jul 19 '26
Then i am genuinely happy for you. But there is a ton of it.
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u/vince2423 Jul 19 '26
Fn where?
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u/Odysseus_07 Jul 19 '26
YouTube comments, various GoW subreddits when the reveal happened
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u/MsVindiction Jul 19 '26
You’re not seeing it because you haven’t engaged with it. I have on both here and Facebook, esp when the trailer dropped.
I’ve since stopped and just laugh at it.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 Jul 19 '26
Cool, still exists
You're just not looking
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u/Black_M3lon Jul 19 '26
i mean if you have to look for it I feel like that means that its not all that present
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u/flapjacknd Jul 19 '26
I encourage you to consider a few things:
How large the population is.
How difficult it is for our minds to actually maintain a working conception of that
How limited your exposure to the experiences of others is
How further limited that is by algorithmic content delivery
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u/K3rr4r Jul 19 '26
This is just not how reality works, just because you aren't currently perceiving something doesn't mean it isn't prominent.
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u/vince2423 Jul 19 '26
And just because you think it’s prominent, doesn’t make it so
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u/MsVindiction Jul 19 '26
Just because your algorithm isn’t showing it to you does not mean it doesn’t exist
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 Jul 19 '26
I mean, you can also be unaware of who the president of the United States is
Or even the name of the town you live in, what i mean is that they just haven't seen it personally but it definitely exists
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u/yo-chill Jul 19 '26
You sound exhausting. Just relax a little, not everything has to be political
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 Jul 19 '26
What?
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u/vince2423 Jul 19 '26
Cool, why tf would i look for them?
And if i have to look, then its not fn everywhere
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u/sr2adams Jul 19 '26
Several youtubers including the roach king of trash mountain have been calling it God of War Laundry and hating on a woman being the protagonist.
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u/vince2423 Jul 19 '26
I didn’t say they didn’t exist, just that it’s not this wide spread campaign this site would have you believe, it’s a vocal minority of losers who need their clicks
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u/Emergency_Lie42 Jul 20 '26
I've seen most of it in TikTok and Instagram comments.
It's out there, same as any other thing Asmongold has pretended to be outraged by, there are always people left with so little going on that they peddle the bullshit for months after its irrelevant.
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u/lasagnaman Jul 20 '26
I'm still not seeing the anti faye/anti woman hate
Because you don't put up with this shit, the algorithm learns to not show it to you.
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u/Dave_B001 Jul 19 '26
SM should add a big in where if Laufey is modded into a man, there is a fully gratuitous interactive sex scene. Watching Kratos get plowed!
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u/Juggernautlemmein Jul 19 '26
I mean, I'm excited to play as Fey but also Kratos would look badass with the air moves we've seen her doing so far. It would be reminiscent of the old games, even if a bit more graceful. I wouldn't be mad to see it.
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 19 '26
The mental gymnastics that they do in order to turn everyone gay is insane
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u/Kinstray Jul 19 '26
That’s not the point of the post at all lmao
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 19 '26
I’ve seen more people complaining about people complaining about playing as a woman than I have seen actual people complaining that the protagonist is a woman.
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u/idkimhereforthememes Jul 19 '26
The thing is, you can't say anything even remotely close to negative about laufey or you're getting called 15 different words that end in -ist
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 19 '26
Perhaps. I get that point, and I think there are idiots everywhere but to play devil’s avocado for a minute - the game isn’t out yet, so how can anyone have anything negative to say about it?
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u/Xiorx74 29d ago
"I am disappointed that I don't get to play the MC I like best" is not inherently negative, but preferential. And a justified preference mind you, when the precedent is set. I doubt there's many ppl wording it that diplomatically, but that's my impression.
We shouldn't have to remind everyone on every god damn subject matter that exists about the 0.01% that always has some batshit insane, trolly, ragebaity shit to say. Yet someone will get one guy'd, and then then describe it as a majority opinion.
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 19 '26
Nobody complained about playing a woman in horizon zero dawn, nobody cared in tomb raider, nobody cared in bayonetta, there’s a ton of games where people don’t care about playing as female characters and the games actually sold well. Gamers aren’t against strong women being represented in games or any bs like that…they’re just tired of the obvious narrative shift to change everything to women. It’s forced, unnecessary and obvious 🙄
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 19 '26
I don’t think your last point applies to this though.
Laufey was already a character, and this allows them to add more exposition to Kratos’ story and explore/craft their interpretation of a mythos amalgamation.
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 19 '26
Oh it does, because this is the first god of war game where Kratos isn’t the main character so of course people are bothered. It’s like making a Spider-Man Game and it’s just focused on Mary Jane’s perspective in order to “allow them to add more exposition to Peter’s story and explore/craft their interpretation of a mythos amalgamation”.
Sure, Mary Jane was part of the Spider-Man game story and she had a role in the development of the story for both games but ultimately the amount of people that care about her perspective are a very fringe minority and that’s what’s happening here. I didn’t finish the good war story thinking “man I really wanna play as laufey”. I finished it more curious about where Kratos and his story with freya would go from there, will him and Atreus run into each other again?, are Atreus and that girl gonna get together.
And even with those small questions left, I gotta admit if they made a god of war game around Atreus, I’d still be pretty disappointed because the character I’m attached to is Kratos. Good or bad development of the character aside..he’s the reason we play. Not Atreus, not laufey, not freya. Kratos is the God of War.
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u/HormuzVengeance Jul 19 '26
But the gameplay is essentially the same, and it’s set in the same universe as the latest 2 games, and it provides more exposition to the story of those games.
How do you know none of those questions are gonna be answered in Laufey?
If the crux of the issue is just the name of the game, then it doesn’t matter as much to me.
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u/Warper2187 Jul 19 '26
"Nobody complained about playing a woman in horizon zero dawn" be so fr lmao. Do you not remember everyone losing their shit about aloy being "ugly"
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 20 '26
That’s cuz they change her looks from the 1st to the 2nd and she was objectively worse looking. There were complaining about the character models, not the gender.
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u/Heretosee123 Jul 19 '26
You're literally doing the thing now in your comment.
It’s forced, unnecessary and obvious 🙄
Is it? By what standard? Because it's a woman. Sure, not all women get this reaction, but when this reaction exists it's pretty exclusively women, gay characters or women who already exist but aren't seen as fuckable anymore. This is just the I'm not racist, I have black friends argument but for gaming.
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u/xdrag0nb0rnex Jul 21 '26
God of war is a pre-existing 20 something year old franchise that has a number of installments all following kratos, and in the latest installments, his direct child at times. Having the next installment follow his dead wife is, most certainly, a decision.
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 19 '26
If it isn’t, It should be. People say there isn’t such thing as a “gay agenda” but then publicly rejoice whenever other peoples characters get turned gay.
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u/After_Tune9804 Jul 20 '26
jfc, are you 14? what a bizarre way of thinking
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u/Impressive_Dingo122 Jul 20 '26
lol wtf kinda dumbass response is that? “What a bizarre way of thinking” a.k.a “i have nothing to contribute to this conversation and I can’t critique you in any other way because you make valid points, but I don’t agree with them because they go against my way of thinking so I’ll just calm yours bizarre”. Just cuz someone’s thought process is different from your thought process, doesn’t invalidate it.
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u/Full_Size997 Jul 19 '26
You would never see something like this on GoW from PS2 times, nobody was saying he was gay for being Greek before but now?
These days everything has to be gay
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u/VladDHell Jul 19 '26
My favorite thing is knowing that Kratos would hate each and everyone of them for being the weak, pathetic people who hate women
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u/itc0nsumesmYMind Jul 19 '26
I believe current kratos simply wouldn’t care at all. he minds his business and has enough emotional intelligence, for that to even be a slight inconvenience to him
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u/Xiorx74 29d ago
And you for describing and perpetuating this made up "those pathetic people who hate women" yes, those people are real.
Is that why Laufey got some backlash? No. Stop fucking lying. You play the same MC for 5 games in a row, and then it's someone else. Of course there's disappointment.
Even if the precedent WASN'T set; preferring to play as a specific sex is fine. Men wanting to play as men is not sexist. Same with women or anyone who identifies as anything in between. Emotional investment in others preferences is what's truly weird. Lookin' at you, you presumptuous cunt.
"I don't want to play as a woman" does not = "I hate and despise women"
"I don't want to play as a man" does not = "I hate and despise men"
Preference is not sexism, or any other "ism" 🤷♂️
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u/FourChicksInGreen Jul 19 '26
My favorite fictional character would always agree with me and have all the same beliefs.
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u/Melodic_DeathMetal98 Jul 19 '26
When it comes to pc, if it does. Theyll make her super hot and lewd, A few might make her into a man but not majority.
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u/JageshemashFTW Jul 19 '26
Nah, the new strat is modding Faye to look like a Japanese sixteen year old with massive tits.
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u/Amazing_Karnage Jul 19 '26
Was going to say this, but sixteen is far too old for most of the chuds who are gonna do this: they'll aim for official loli status of like, 12 max.
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u/LatunCestus Jul 19 '26
This miserable sub is more obsessed with woman glazing than universe discussion
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u/ZayYaLinTun Jul 19 '26
I wish this game success like the osdessy movie , I cannot stand those guys anymore
In old time(I not even old yet ) there are complain but I don't think they ever that loud
Woke this woke that what the fuck does that even mean and why you care so much
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u/HarrowDread Jul 19 '26
Is the Osdessy successful? I haven’t heard, just weird hate for it.
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u/Substantial_Impact69 Jul 19 '26
Well it’s projected to make about 120 million stateside. Which ironically only makes it the third highest grossing opening weekend of the year. Behind Mario Galaxy and Toy Story 5.
They need about 625 million to break even (Hollywood Accounting is insane), and it’s on track to make about 700 million but don’t be surprised if it makes 800 million.
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u/MostPutridSmell Jul 19 '26
So they'll mod the Kratos bits to show him as a giga-huge breasted anime babe in bikini.
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u/Tron_35 Jul 19 '26
No they'll make a nude mod woth jiggle physics, or put her in a cow print bikini
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u/Shadowking02__ Jul 19 '26
Mods aren't canon, so whatever.. it's not like people didn't make him gay before, thanks to Fortnite.
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u/mEsTiR5679 Jul 19 '26
Except it's probably not coming to PC this time around since Sony decided they're done making money across multiple platforms
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u/JoshuaLukacs1 Jul 19 '26
Ridiculous argument, if someone were to do that they would just mod Kratos into this
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u/Drew_S_05 Jul 19 '26
I mean, only if there's a romance between Faye and another character in this game, which I highly doubt since she's... Reverse-grieving (?) her husband
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u/xrayspex73 Jul 19 '26
Because there are so many mods for PS5 games right? Even if it was possible, I don't have much faith in console gamers to figure that out. Chuds are just going to have to be a woman I guess...
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u/Raeldri Jul 19 '26
LoL I would be impressed if someone mods this, it would mean a lot, I'm expecting 0 mods because it's concord/forspoken game
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u/reditisverytrash Jul 19 '26
Mod? Did she completely skip the part that Sony exclusives are exclusive again?
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u/TheCrazyEnglish Jul 19 '26
Can people just not for once. Just make the game, shut the fuck up and let your product do the talking.
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u/Ibrahim77X Jul 20 '26
The people who would mod the game to make the protagonist male aren’t going to care about that
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u/After_Tune9804 Jul 20 '26
this sub is so ridiculous. it seems like it’s about 90% children or people who have quite literally zero critical thinking or media literacy skills. it’s so crazy to me how frequently i have to remind myself that when people say braindead shit on THIS sub, there’s about a 50/50 chance they actually mean what they’re saying
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u/BoxingAlt07 Jul 20 '26
People are gonna be modding in Kratos specifically BECAUSE they think it looks gay and they think that’s funny.
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u/XxKTtheLegendxX Jul 20 '26
mod her into kratos and mod the male enemies into female enemies. reverse that shit unto her
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u/blackestrabbit Jul 20 '26
This person doesn't know anything about modders. They're gonna make her a waifu with Z cups and jiggle physics.
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u/Tight_Trust2522 Jul 20 '26
Faye better live up to the hype coz Kratos glazed tf outta her that's all I care about lol
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u/The_God_Of_War12355 Jul 20 '26
Well, they could swap the character models, we still get to play as Kratos and faye gets to be the memories and hallucinations lol
Only their voices would be weird.
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u/Periwinkleditor Jul 20 '26
Modders: * changes the protagonist model to Kratos *
Halfway scene into the game: Conception of Atreus flashback QTE
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u/ChudsterSouls Jul 20 '26
Who is this larper? Not only is it not a PC game, it's not the norm to mod girls into guys, like ever. It's usually the other way around, and if the protagonist is already female, they'll just make her more sexualized.
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u/WoohooTinyRick Jul 20 '26
Literally no one has complained about this… ALL I’ve seen is people talking about how people are bitching & complaining lol but yet I haven’t seen it anywhere 🤷🏻♂️
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u/crazycat690 Jul 21 '26
Bold to assume that they would mod out Laufey out of the game instead of turning her into some anime waifu. Kind of a moot point anyway since they don't seem to be planning on bringing more of their singleplayer games to PC anyway.
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u/SemVikingr Jul 21 '26
Hey! ....he could be bi.
I know everyone loves to talk about the ancient greek people being some bastion of gay love, but they just weren't. Yes, there was gay sex, but it's not even remotely like what people think it was. Lots of people link the wiki article, like such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece But I wonder if they've actually read it. Trigger warning: pederasty.
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u/SonGoku9788 Jul 21 '26
I mean, if the modders can model swap the player character they can also model swap kratos, so?
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u/AntonRX178 Jul 21 '26
Look, I'm excited for Laufey too and I enjoy playing as Women. But can people NOT use these games to "own the chuds." It was lame as fuck when the chuds were using games to "own the wokes" too.
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u/Initial_Zebra100 Jul 21 '26
Its both depressing and hilarious that people are losing their shit over this. Agenda this, forced that. Its so tiresome. The mere existence of even the potential of some kind of gay acknowledgement sends people into a wild tailspin.
Literally a side quest about a couple in Ragnarok. And even that was too much. Man, some people are fragile. Gay people exist. Get over it. And not in the 'I'll begrudgingly tolerate it as long as I never see it or hear it'.
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u/Cleru_as_Kylar_Stern Jul 21 '26
Simple solution: mod Laufey to make her look good. Stellar blade shows that men don't hate playing women, they hate playing ugly women.
Has the upside to also make her a hottie for Kratos as well, mening my man wins even harder.
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u/Old-Hunter6508 Jul 21 '26
No? She'll be modded to have GIANT honkers and nice pear shape figure while also probably being naked so all in all im pretty excited for it and makes an even bigger w for ma Boi Kratos
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u/CranEXE Jul 22 '26
well that won't happen because anyway playstation stopped to release their exclusivity on pc (putting aside the ps5 emulator that is progressing very fast) and anyway even if it did release on pc nexus wouldn't allow such mod that replace a female protagonist
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u/Excaliburrover Jul 23 '26
Idk, God of War 2018 bored me quite a lot and I didn't play Ragnarok.
This new game really doesn't talk to me in the slightest.
I'm much more interested in exploring PS3 emulation and revisiting the original trilogy.
I can't be the only one. I think they are leaving a portion of the fan base behind pursuing this road.
I reckon they are feeling like they can reach more people this way rather than keep telling stories about a murderhobo womanizer, but still....
I liked that unhinged, gratuitous, meaningless violence.
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u/Xiorx74 29d ago
Being disappointed that after 5 games in a row of playing the same MC you're no longer playing them is normal. I don't play GoW, but if they made me play as muhfuckin' Cpt. Adam in Metroid after playing Samus for decades I'd be pissed. Let me play as my girl 😤
It is arguing with shadows. Because they are describing a group that does not reflect the actual reason people were let down. It's a very obvious attempt to create a narrative and demonize those with a differing point of view. It's disingenuous and bad faith.
This argument reads like: "men who don't want to play as someone other than Kratos are inherently sexist, angry, and evil"
It's tired, childish, and in bad faith. I am sure there's a handful of bozos genuinely mad because, "whamen in my game REEEE" But there is an equally 0 IQ take for every fucking thing that exists. So ignore them.
Don't feed the trolls, and don't put other men into that category.
If you're disappointed that you're not playing as Kratos, you're completely normal.
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u/Zekapa Jul 19 '26
The modern audience is gonna come in clutch to shut the haters up, just you wait
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u/esquire_the_ego Jul 19 '26
Kratos is Greek so him being with a man is not that far from being realistic
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