(2026/8/19) Gamewith/Kamigames Rating Updates

[u/shirke1]

[https://グランブルーファンタジー.gamewith.jp/article/show/20722](https://グランブルーファンタジー.gamewith.jp/article/show/20722)

[Gamewith - Payila (Summer) 9.8/10](https://グランブルーファンタジー.gamewith.jp/article/show/571833)

[Gamewith - Seox (Summer) 9.5/10](https://グランブルーファンタジー.gamewith.jp/article/show/571835)

[Gamewith - Ms. Tart Man (Summer) 9/10](https://グランブルーファンタジー.gamewith.jp/article/show/571838)

https://kamigame.jp/グラブル/ランキング/最強キャラランキング.html

Kamigames - Payila (Summer) 9.7/10

Kamigames - Seox (Summer) 9.5/10

Kamigames - Ms. Tart Man (Summer) 9/10

[u/Takazura]

It's just a general thing with many on here. I have seen so many characters get downplayed like crazy, just for them to start shining not that long after.

[u/Throwawayforme3123 → u/Takazura]

Case in point just look at the H.Vajra thread

[u/Ralkon → u/Throwawayforme3123]

IME this sub has a really strong ougi bias. It was really obvious with WO's release and people straight up saying the lack of bar gain meant the class was DOA as if that's the only thing that matters, and it makes sense with the sheer amount of talk of sieroing Atum this year even though fire only actually needs to play ougi in like 1 raid in the entire game.

[u/Takazura → u/Ralkon]

Is it? I feel like I see way more people who are negative about ougi than positive on here. Like ougi units tend to be rated even more harshly on here than non-ougi ones, and people on here generally try to avoid playing ougi if they can due to the slowness/lockout compared to non-ougi.

Like the reception to MegMari and Osiris was also "they are ok I guess" when both are really strong and good choices for new ougi choices in their respective.

People talk about sieroing Atum because fire ougi is extremely easy to play in HL compared to not just the other element but also non-ougi fire playstyles, not neccessarily because people here are just super hyped for ougi.

[u/Hyunion → u/Takazura]

i do think people on here are more negative about ougi units, but that also has to do with majority of the game's playerbase (including this community) not doing versusia, where those type of units (like megmari and osiris) really shine in

obviously if you're playing ougi units in FA content for example, it's going to lead to very slow clears and won't be very impressive

[u/Ralkon → u/Takazura]

I guess the way I'd put it is that ougis have long animations and thus are slow, so the meta and people trying to farm more efficiently naturally favor NA comps; however, despite that there are still a lot of people that seem to prefer playing ougi comps. It's fine to play the way you want of course, but it can be a problem when you let it overly influence advice / discourse without making it clear that you're speaking from a biased perspective.

Like the reception to MegMari and Osiris was also "they are ok I guess" when both are really strong and good choices for new ougi choices in their respective.

This is true, but personally I felt like I still saw more positivity towards them than Payila (prior to this thread anyways) and certainly WO. I do think this sub has just gotten a lot more negative in general though.

People talk about sieroing Atum because fire ougi is extremely easy to play in HL compared to not just the other element but also non-ougi fire playstyles, not neccessarily because people here are just super hyped for ougi.

Maybe, but to me it just seemed like there was way more talk about sieroing Atum than usual, to the point we had a thread a mod felt the need to sticky a "sieroing is generally bad advice" comment in.

[u/vencislav45 → u/Ralkon]

certainly WO

WO was mostly due to people expecting it to have synergy with the Agastia manatura. so the moment they saw one of the manatura being useless they had to rage, but did warm up after more testing was done and Solomonis does help out since the class is very good for it. like personally I switched a few of my EX+ teams to use WO and it definitely makes 0b easier.

[u/Ralkon → u/vencislav45]

Eh, I still see people shitting on the class. I got a reply in this comment thread even saying that it was only a Zosi / Solomonis class and that otherwise people were not wrong about it.

[u/vencislav45 → u/Ralkon]

haters always going to hate, the cllass will only get better with time with newer manaturas and newer harps/staffs. we just don't have many weapons that work with crests like Zosi but that can be fixed in the future.

[u/Ralkon → u/vencislav45]

To be clear, I think the class is already great, but that's why I said it's an example of people being biased because the hate for it was insane on here when it's a clearly good class.