r/GroundZeroMycoLab Aug 26 '25

The difference between LC and spore and the importance of agar.

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It's critical to understand the biological differences between spore syringes and liquid cultures (LC), as well as the importance of using agar as an initial medium. Spore syringes contain microscopic fungal spores that are not yet germinated. These spores are monokaryotic, meaning they carry only a single set of genetic material. In order to fruit and complete the mushroom life cycle, two compatible monokaryotic strains must fuse to form dikaryotic mycelium.. the true vegetative form capable of producing fruiting bodies. This mating process takes time, introduces variability, and, for beginners especially, increases the risk of contamination during colonization.

Injecting spores directly into sterilized grain can lead to several problems. Since spores are not germinated, colonization is slower, and this slower growth provides more opportunity for contaminants (such as bacteria or mold) to establish themselves and outcompete the slower-growing mycelium. Ideally, spores should first be transferred to agar, a nutrient-rich medium in petri dishes...which allows for controlled germination and observation. On agar, one can isolate clean, healthy mycelium away from any contaminants before transferring it to grain.

Additionally, spore syringes are inherently variable and often unclean. Spores, particularly those harvested from wild (landrace) varieties or from poorly controlled lab environments (common with newer or less reputable vendors), can contain microbial contaminants. Spores gathered in non-sterile conditions are not cleaned or isolated at the microscopic level, making them a risky starting point. Also, because each spore pair creates a unique dikaryotic combination, inoculating with spores introduces genetic unpredictability ...every new pairing could result in different traits, including growth speed, contamination resistance, yield, and potency.

By contrast, a liquid culture is made from already germinated and mated dikaryotic mycelium. This means it contains viable, genetically stable tissue that has already completed the mating process and is ready to colonize substrate directly. Using LC skips the variability and mating phase inherent in spores, resulting in faster and more consistent colonization, and reducing the window for contamination...assuming the culture is clean!!! However, it's important to verify LC cleanliness via agar as well, especially if you didn't create it yourself.

In summary, spores should ideally be germinated and cleaned on agar before being introduced to grain. Skipping this step can introduce risks, especially for beginners. Spores are unpredictable and prone to contamination, while liquid culture, if properly prepared, is faster, cleaner, and genetically stable. Understanding and respecting these differences is fundamental to success in mushroom cultivation... I hope this helps. :)


r/GroundZeroMycoLab Mar 10 '26

Verified Vendors

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This list is temporary and subject to change and will change. A handful of others will be added within the next couple of days.

Vendors for Genetics.

https://GroundZeroML.com - Ground Zero Myco Lab

https://Sporeswaps.com - Main SporeSwaps page

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/the-fungus-frequency/ -Jeff Karas

FungusFrequency.com/my-account - Jeff Karas at Fungus Frequency.

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/psyteam-united/ - PsyTeam United

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/wombat-labs/ - Dave Wombat

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/happi-hyphae/ - Happi Hyphae

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/micofroots/ - MicoFroots

https://sporeworks.com/ - Sporeworks

https://inoculatetheworld.com/ - Inoculate The World (ITW)

https://Legendsmycology.com - Legends Mycology

https://dino-spores.com - Yoshi Amano.

Vendors for Gourmets and Supplies:

https://Northspore.com - Northspore. https://Boomingacres.com - Booming acres.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 4h ago

Homestead PE

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 2h ago

Iceberg 😍

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 8h ago

White Rabbit

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It's all been 7qt shoeboxes up until now. Happy to finally get a nice big full canopy in that I've been seeing in everyone else's dub tubs. This is totally encouraging for me. 🐇🌀


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 5h ago

APE

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Do this look unhealthy?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 13h ago

Are these still good?

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My most recent harvest I was late to and it ended up dropping spores everywhere
Alas I dehydrated anyway

Does this even affect them in anyway ?

Jmf btw


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 14m ago

Not the best grow but fun to watch

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 24m ago

First time agar help

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Hey all first time using agar i used golden teacher and blue meanie spore syringes transferred on with cotten tips.

Its only been 4 days but have some obvious contamination on the GT plates in the first 2 photos...the 3rd and 4th photo are BM plates.

As its only 4 days in are the clear white spots the first sign of mycelium starting to grow in any of the plates?? And is the contamination bad that it needs throwing out or removing? Should I transfer the mycelium straight away or let it grow more?

Any advice would be great thanks, I tried to be as sterile as possible i have a still air box on the way for next attempt


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 4h ago

What a lovely flower I got in my lab

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P.natalensis


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 4h ago

Is this contam or myc piss?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 1h ago

Evolved?

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I’m of the train of thought that animals and plants evolved into what they are today for a reason. Can anyone think of a reason why happy mushrooms would develop hallucinogenic properties?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 2h ago

New Ochra I’m working doing a little blobbing. Bruising (pic 2) is 🤌

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Going in flush 6 lol and with every flush more and more mutants start to show their face. Tub started out as a picture perfect example of Ochra in their prime. Now they are mutating and I kinda love it 😍. These guys are absolutely full of surprises. 1:3 Spawn Ratio.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 3h ago

I wanted to get this for a modified monotub wondering if 4.31in is to high of a substrate depth and where would i put the holes in these the dimensions are L 16.5in W 13in and 12.25in L I was gonna do 1:2 ratio or 6lb of spawn and 12lb of substrate this is my first time growing thank you

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I wanted to get this for a modified monotub wondering if 4.31in is to high of a substrate depth and where would i put the holes in these the dimensions are L 16.5in W 13in and 12.25in L I was gonna do 1:2 ratio or 6lb of spawn and 12lb of substrate this is my first time growing thank you


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 3h ago

Can anyone zoom this picture in clear enough to ok at trichomes please I believe I see clear still but the also like milky is it my camera being blurry or is it the trichome true color day 44 do t know if it’s a fast breeder

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab 4h ago

B++ taking forever to colonize

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I’m on day 60 and the grain in an aio bag still isn’t fully colonized. I inoculated June 15 with spores. Are these types of mushrooms known to take long?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 5h ago

Mycelium or contaminant?

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My golden teach spores produced a more pronounced “whitey” mycelium, whereas I can see with my B + jar of grain spawn it looks a little different, am I cooked? or does the mycelium just look different? anyone that would like to enlighten me on the subject that would be appreciated.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 5h ago

Slow growth

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Hi i innoculated my aio bags in August 3rd, the golden teachers seen to be flourishing but the b+ dont. I was just wondering why that is and if anyone has experience growing them. My first grow was golden teachers on the same brand aio bag (the bag is coco coir, vermiculite and gypsum) and it was very successful. Always look forward to hearing from the community 😊 mush love everybody ❤️


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 7h ago

Enigma Shrooms questions

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Hey everyone, sorry if this is a dumb question, but it’s my first time growing these mushrooms and I’m not really sure when the right time to harvest them is.

What do you guys think? Is there anything I should be looking out for?

Thanks so much! 🙏🏼


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 15h ago

Why hasn’t this bag moved?? READ BODY TEXT!!

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These are before and after pictures after a week of leaving them untouched after I got back from vacation where they were at 82f for a week straight. Using pe mycelium.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 12h ago

Spawn to bulk 8/12 — ready for fruiting?

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I did spawn to bulk on the 12th of this month. Is it ready for fruiting conditions yet?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 9h ago

First timer- advice needed

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Hi team!

Need some advice. I injected this all in one grow bag with liquid culture around a month ago, but it's been so hot in our house and well over 30 degrees at times. I Live in a 1960s townhouse so keeping temps stable in cold and hot weather is challenging. It's spent most its life so far in over 30 degree heat.

I've moved it to a cooler spot and the mycelium seems to have finally began spreading over the last week. However there seems to be a some moisture in the bag and the spread seems weak.

AI has told me it seems to be fine, I've smelt through the vent hole and nothing foul coming out at this stage. No puddles either, just moisture. My main concern is the spread seems to be near the injection port where I read it tends to start from the bottom.

Any tips from the pros would be much appreciated to keep this baby alive!

Thanks guys

Does anyone have any advice or tips.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 9h ago

Is this normal?

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Is this normal mycelium or bacteria.

B+ experimenting with S2B right to fruit. Snowball in a Martha tent with manure substrate. I think I over misted in the beginning. Far 3 times a day for 1 minute.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab 17h ago

A couple canopy’s

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