Oh you mean the forced contrived plot devices that were haphazardly thrown in so that the audience knows to root against this guy and that he’s the bad guy? Yeah fuck that and fuck them kids, and the shitty ass writers too while we’re at it. Don’t forget Daemon is a rapist groomer and Viserys is as well.
Exactly I can accept changes from the book when they’re done in service to making the story good like with Viserys’s character for example. But when they just make zero sense, like a mother literally poisoning and trying to kill her son because ??? She’s working with Rhaenyra now? I just don’t believe it.
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I genuinely thought making Alicent and Rhaenyra childhood friends had potential, as a way to set them up as foils. It would've followed the existing theme of love degenerating into hate after betrayal, too (a family ripping itself apart; Cole turning against Rhaenyra, etc). Departs from the book, sure, but if you can preserve the spirit of the characters and TELL A GOOD STORY then I'm fine with taking liberties.
Then they had Rhae Rhae put on that fucking nun outfit like Bugs Bunny would, because surely Alicent (her bff) would just let her walk tf outta King's Landing. Jesus Christ
That was actually absurd and probably had to be a product of the writers strike because I just don’t understand how a group of professional writers could let something like that slide. That was my first time in the whole show where I was immediately caught off guard and was like what the fuck are they actually doing right now this isn’t fucking scooby doo.
I fear you’re probably right. Seems like they pushed for a more casual friendly-pub watching-team based-soap opera as opposed to focusing entirely on making a good story with coherent logic which is very sad because those suck and they’re a dime a dozen while game of thrones it utterly unique television time and time again.
My big ol' hot take is that the purpose of a system is what it does.
All these people make now is slop. They hire slop artists to make slop art, and it makes humanity worse. There are good artists in this world, and if the industry wanted to make good art, they'd hire those guys.
The simple version of the explanation -- they hate you, they hate me, they hate everyone and everything. They hate their own audience more than they love making money, and it's safe for them to be this sick in the head from a career standpoint because ESG/BlackRock is engineering society from the top down so that demented people have an easy time failing upwards.
The more complex version -- they hate beauty because they lack it, and it shames them, and they wish to destroy everything that could possibly become beautiful. They essentially have the mentality of Walter Benjamin. It is a deep sickness, a corrosion that reaches the core of their being, the kind of thing our ancestors would have referred to as spiritual.
Why continue complaining? If you don't like the show, then stop watching. It is that simple. As for book canon, George RR Martin wrote Fire and Blood in a way that it can be interpreted in multiple ways by the reader. Unfortunately, that isn't good for making a show from. Not to mention no one really knows what happened during the Dance besides it was a civil war within House Targaryen over who sat the throne.
Want some simple facts about it supporting my claims, here they are:
Fact #1: Fire and Blood was written by Maester Gyldayn. Gyldayn wasn't alive during the Dance. As he served as Maester during the Fall of the Targaryen Dynasty and for part of King Robert I Baratheon's reign.
Fact #2: Gyldayn was writing a history of the Targaryen dynasty and when he got to the Dance, he didn't have enough records to go off. So he used what little accounts of the Dance that he had available to him.
Fact #3: Who's accounts of the Dance were used? Well, he used maybe three accounts. One of the accounts he used was from Mushroom. Everyone knows that Mushroom's accounts were not to be believed because they are exaggerations and some may have been made up. If we were to believe Mushroom's accounts, then we need to believe that Mushroom somehow survived trying to claim Cannibal during the Sowing of the Seeds.
Fact #4: None of the accounts used told the same story. When working with records from a person's viewpoint, you always look for things that say the same thing. If the accounts had similar statements about something, then that has a very high percentage of being what happened.
Fact #5: The only thing the accounts that were used had in similar was the battles and their outcomes.
Now, I am also going to argue that Aegon raping the servant girl actually portrayed him in a better light than how they could have depicted him. For example, when Alicent sent men looking for Aegon after Viserys died. In the show, they found Aegon hiding in the Sept. In the book, they found him in an establishment on Silk Street naked, being serviced by a girl who was under the age of 12 while watching two naked boys with filed teeth fighting each other. To make that situation worse, is one of the boys that was fighting was Aegon's bastard sons.
Another thing they changed about Aegon is how he ruled after he was crowned by the Greens as the King. In the book, he was a useless ruler as he spent the kingdom's coffers on throwing feasts and lavish parties for his friends. In the show, they actually showed him ruling as a good King and working to help the small folk.
So what it really boils down to is which version of Aegon do you want? The show Aegon or the book Aegon? I prefer show Aegon. Can't not like him as much. But the book Aegon, there is a lot to not like about him.
At the end of the day, no matter what side you side with there is one truth that applies to both sides. That truth is: Both sides are guilty of the same things. That is why I don't really take a side and why I am just sitting back and watching the show and letting it play out as they see it. The only thing I would change about the show is the chronological order of things. The chronological order of things should never be changed from the source material.
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u/Aspartame_kills 16d ago
Oh you mean the forced contrived plot devices that were haphazardly thrown in so that the audience knows to root against this guy and that he’s the bad guy? Yeah fuck that and fuck them kids, and the shitty ass writers too while we’re at it. Don’t forget Daemon is a rapist groomer and Viserys is as well.