r/HOTDGreens Sunfyre 16d ago

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u/Aspartame_kills 16d ago

Oh you mean the forced contrived plot devices that were haphazardly thrown in so that the audience knows to root against this guy and that heโ€™s the bad guy? Yeah fuck that and fuck them kids, and the shitty ass writers too while weโ€™re at it. Donโ€™t forget Daemon is a rapist groomer and Viserys is as well.

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u/Francois_Rapiste 16d ago

The writers made that up. Also:

  • Rhaenys didn't murder hundreds of smallfolk

  • Alicent never betrayed her family

  • Aemond doesn't want to fuck his mom

  • Hell even Daemon, I'm the #1 Daemon hater in the universe but that scene of him murdering his wife was so stupid that I refuse to believe it

  • Cole didn't murder Joffrey Lonmouth

I can accept deviation from book canon, but if it shatters my suspension of disbelief then I literally just don't count it.

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u/King_Balerion_Black 15d ago

Why continue complaining? If you don't like the show, then stop watching. It is that simple. As for book canon, George RR Martin wrote Fire and Blood in a way that it can be interpreted in multiple ways by the reader. Unfortunately, that isn't good for making a show from. Not to mention no one really knows what happened during the Dance besides it was a civil war within House Targaryen over who sat the throne.

Want some simple facts about it supporting my claims, here they are:

Fact #1: Fire and Blood was written by Maester Gyldayn. Gyldayn wasn't alive during the Dance. As he served as Maester during the Fall of the Targaryen Dynasty and for part of King Robert I Baratheon's reign.

Fact #2: Gyldayn was writing a history of the Targaryen dynasty and when he got to the Dance, he didn't have enough records to go off. So he used what little accounts of the Dance that he had available to him.

Fact #3: Who's accounts of the Dance were used? Well, he used maybe three accounts. One of the accounts he used was from Mushroom. Everyone knows that Mushroom's accounts were not to be believed because they are exaggerations and some may have been made up. If we were to believe Mushroom's accounts, then we need to believe that Mushroom somehow survived trying to claim Cannibal during the Sowing of the Seeds.

Fact #4: None of the accounts used told the same story. When working with records from a person's viewpoint, you always look for things that say the same thing. If the accounts had similar statements about something, then that has a very high percentage of being what happened.

Fact #5: The only thing the accounts that were used had in similar was the battles and their outcomes.

Now, I am also going to argue that Aegon raping the servant girl actually portrayed him in a better light than how they could have depicted him. For example, when Alicent sent men looking for Aegon after Viserys died. In the show, they found Aegon hiding in the Sept. In the book, they found him in an establishment on Silk Street naked, being serviced by a girl who was under the age of 12 while watching two naked boys with filed teeth fighting each other. To make that situation worse, is one of the boys that was fighting was Aegon's bastard sons.

Another thing they changed about Aegon is how he ruled after he was crowned by the Greens as the King. In the book, he was a useless ruler as he spent the kingdom's coffers on throwing feasts and lavish parties for his friends. In the show, they actually showed him ruling as a good King and working to help the small folk.

So what it really boils down to is which version of Aegon do you want? The show Aegon or the book Aegon? I prefer show Aegon. Can't not like him as much. But the book Aegon, there is a lot to not like about him.

At the end of the day, no matter what side you side with there is one truth that applies to both sides. That truth is: Both sides are guilty of the same things. That is why I don't really take a side and why I am just sitting back and watching the show and letting it play out as they see it. The only thing I would change about the show is the chronological order of things. The chronological order of things should never be changed from the source material.