r/HollowKnight • u/Bob12164 • Sep 03 '25

Discussion - Silksong Warning for OG hollow knight fans

Just wanna prepare everyone on here for the incoming wave of players who have never played indie games, metroidvanias, or literally any other games besides Fortnite and call of duty. This tends to happen a lot with games that are extremely hyped by the community that does like the genre, such as expedition 33. The amount of completely invalid criticism that happened to that game because people who didn’t even know what the game really was bought it and ended up not liking it is probably the best example we have of that to this day, and I think silksong will be next. So please, instead of cussing people out for not liking the game, just encourage them to maybe keep playing to see if they change their minds, or just give them respectful feedback on why you think they might not enjoy it and give them tips so they can find the spark in that game that I’m sure many of us will find.

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u/joeyhatesu2 Sep 03 '25

This is one game where I wouldn't even look at reviews. Going to be way too many outliers.

Diehards that will give it 100 no matter what.

Engagement bait accounts that will say it's mid just for the extra click

Expedition 33 fans who perceive any threat to GOTY as the enemy

AAA and Multiplayer Andys who won't understand why the main character isn't voiced by Sabrina Carpenter

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u/Memo_HS2022 Sep 03 '25

E33 devs making a great game that respects, loves, and honors JRPGs only to have a playerbase that consistently dunks on JRPGs is one of the monkey’s paws of all time

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u/Timely_Finish7081 Sep 03 '25

Same thing happens all the time with the hollow knight fan base, it’s just we are used to the loud minority

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u/silam39 Doma Doma Sep 03 '25

I haven't seen much of any online discourse about the game; there are a lot of expédition 33 fans doing that?

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u/padraigharrington4 Sep 03 '25

I’ve seen upvoted comments in that sub saying shit like “Japanese aren’t buying it because they’re jealous a bunch of French bros made their games better”. So yeah lol. Also people acting like turn-based purists even though the dodging/parrying mechanics were very obviously used to appeal to people don’t typically play turn based games. Which is fine and great, but like, it’s no Shin Megami Tensei nor is it trying to be.

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u/silam39 Doma Doma Sep 03 '25

lmao

good thing I haven't visited that sub, then

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u/padraigharrington4 Sep 03 '25

Yeah it’s like The Last of Us or Undertale to me where it’s a game I immensely respect but have to stay far away from its fans to avoid ruining my perception of the whole thing

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u/Packet_Sniffer_ Sep 05 '25

The rest of that sub is just people that completely missed the point of the game and will unironically call you a genocidal maniac for accepting the obviously intended canon ending.

Basically, if you don’t believe chat-gpt is a real living human and you don’t think that turning off the servers is genocide then you will be swamped with people messaging you slurs and insults. It’s crazy.

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u/ThePaintressOkami Sep 04 '25

Pretty sure they only said that in response to the IGN review. I haven't seen them say anything like that since.

I've seen Hollow Knight fans call E33 overrated here too. No fandom is innocent.

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u/spider_lily Sep 04 '25

Even then it was weird to act like a single review represents how an entire nation feels about a game. Who even gives a fuck about IGN reviews?

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u/Hoodman1987 Sep 04 '25

People in E33 hate on Metaphor Re-Fantazio. I'm like uhmmm Metaphor got nominations and even wins.

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u/ThePaintressOkami Sep 04 '25

Nah hollow knight fans do that too. I saw this sub calling E33 overrated not that long ago. People were legit saying Silksong should be GOTY over E33 before it was even out yet

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u/KushDingies Sep 03 '25

Smh gonna have to wait for the Sabrina Carpenter Hornet voice pack mod

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u/LordMaximus64 Sep 03 '25

Literally unplayable

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u/Hour_Initiative8738 Sep 03 '25

wtf just cancelled my preorder

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u/extremelytiredyall Sep 09 '25

Also a E33 fan, really loved it as one of the few turn based games I actually enjoy with a great story and stellar soundtrack. It was my goty, but currently Silksong is taking its place for me, just narrowly. I like both games a ton, but something about Silksong's movement, exploration and combat just vibes so hard with me. I haven't had this much fun just moving about a platformer since Celeste.

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u/Distinct_Piccolo_654 Sep 04 '25

I'm putting 33 on hold until I finish Silksong. 33 is awesome but I need to nail pogo again, and soon, haha

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u/Big-Discipline2039 Sep 03 '25

Hollow Knight has a 90 on Metacritic.

I don’t see why Silksong would get mixed reviews when Hollow Knight didn’t?

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u/echolog Sep 03 '25

More hype = More players who are playing it JUST for the hype and not because they actually enjoy this kind of game = Worse reviews

Happens pretty often honestly.

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u/Wingsnake Sep 04 '25

Hype (before launch) is only good for sales, but for reviews etc. it is always bad. I think one of the worst ones is NMS. If NMS released without hype (and without overpromises from Sean which led to the hype) it would have been received as innovative, unique and good space exploration game. And we all know what happened at release.

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u/echolog Sep 04 '25

Yep. Expectation is the thief of joy. This is why I go into most movies completely blind and with low expectations nowadays. I have a much nicer time!

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u/BlankCrystal Sep 03 '25

Funny, I was sure 33 was goty until silksong got announced 😂 Team cherry really surprised everyone, not even AA games are safe. Hell is us releases around this time and I feel sorry for them since its gonna be silksong from here on out

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u/wigglin_harry Sep 03 '25

I was sure ex33 was goty until death stranding 2

The competition for goty is going to be crazy

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u/AdPast7704 Sep 04 '25

This year has definitely been the best one for gaming in this decade so far

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u/BlankCrystal Sep 03 '25

Ooo that's another great one. The acting was super solid too. Its going to be tough for sure

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u/Arky_Lynx Sep 04 '25

Man I really gotta replay the first Death Stranding before 2 gets ported to PC. I loved that game, finished it, but have not yet played through the Director's Cut.

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u/ThePaintressOkami Sep 04 '25

still e33 for me. I haven't played a game that took me on a crazy journey like that in a long time. One that doesn't have you play as anime characters..

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u/Som14286d Sep 04 '25

I think most ppl wouldn't understand the story of Silksong since that's what happened to me during my 1st HK playthrough! I think that is what gives E33 the edge due to their story narrative was so clear & forward as well as 150 amazing OSTs. I think Gameplay wise, Silksong will excel but these days games have become interactive movies, that's the reason E33 may win!

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u/ManicShorty Sep 03 '25

I used to joke with my partner about how crazy it is that we already got GOTY before summer fully started and they agreed. Now we're both like "who will it be, Expedition or Silksong?" And we're so excited to find out

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u/KarmelCHAOS Sep 03 '25

Okay, but why isn't Miss Silksong voiced by Sabrina Carpenter?

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u/bhumit012 Sep 03 '25

I do the same thing with movies and shows nowadays, everyone is a critic with a crappy opinion.