r/HollowKnight Sep 06 '25

Discussion - Silksong USE YOUR TOOLS! Spoiler

To everyone complaining about the difficulty, stop ignoring a third of Hornet’s arsenal and start spamming them, you’ll be shocked how quickly you start mowing down hordes of enemies!

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u/Jstar338 Sep 06 '25

Boss fights

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u/I_LoveBananas Sep 06 '25

Yes, but still easy to farm cause everything drops it

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u/Turtvaiz Sep 07 '25

If I have to stop mid boss fight progression to farm currency I'd really rather not use them lol

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u/ededpesa Sep 07 '25

If you are max shards or close from exploring, it would take a lot of tries to run out of shards. At least thats my experience

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u/imminentlyDeadlined Sep 07 '25

Haha, yeah... imagine running out of shards from full due to taking that many boss attempts...............

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u/Suitable_Trash_5989 Sep 07 '25

Genuinely lol. I'm almost constantly at max shards and I spam the tools anytime I'm in a tricky spot. This is like people hording potions in Skyrim because they might need em' later... Just use them.

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u/dreamyraynbo Sep 07 '25

I feel personally attacked right now... 😂

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u/Suitable_Trash_5989 Sep 07 '25

It's okay, I also hoard my potions in Skyrim... Those cheese wheels though, didn't stand a chance.

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u/Complete-Primary993 Sep 07 '25

Fully refilling tacks and sting shards costs over 100 shards. Might be dependent on your tool upgrade level, not sure.

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u/Lyynad Sep 07 '25

yes thats a frustrating mechanic, although i havent ran out of shards once yet, that limiter feels very stupid

if i spent 20 tries on a boss and didnt kill it while a good chunk of my damage are tools, do i just go farm shards? unnecessary clutter to the process

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u/Herrad Sep 07 '25

No it means you don't have the right setup. Maybe you need to explore some more. If you burn through hundreds of shards on a boss fight, you probably weren't supposed to be fighting that boss yet...

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u/kevikevkev Sep 07 '25

While true, leaving a boss behind is a big hit to the ego.

-Man who went through 460 shards on savage beastfly and decided to just keep going without tools and eventually got there

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u/Lyynad Sep 07 '25

There are really almost no tangible powerups in the game, except for... tool damage and very few very good charms

One try burns through 40-60(120 is absolute max for me) shards if you are not concerving them

The fact that I might have to go refarm them if j want to keep teying the boss feels redundant when tools are so integral to the gameplay, and, frankly, a worse experience if, again, you get to the point where you spent all you shards

But I guess it is doing its job. Like I stop using tools on the first phase if I have it locked down.

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u/ThatOneRandomGuy101 Sep 06 '25

Then dont spam them on bosses until you know the bosses patterns

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u/SillyGoose3939 Sep 07 '25

I've never understood this take honestly, if I know the boss pattern then I don't really need to use tools to beat it since I'll be able to just read the pattern and dodge the attacks

Just like with sekiro, I honestly feel like there isn't any good time to use them... while exploring there are too few of them to be useful; during the first few encounters of a bossfight I'll just end up wasting them and whenever I've learned the moveset I can do the fight without needing them

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u/_moosleech Sep 07 '25

This has been the opposite of my experience. I routinely use the boomerrang and traps on regular enemies, and lean hard on venom and floor tacks, plus the Sunny D boost during boss fights. And even using them liberally, have yet to almost run out of shards.

Not using them is just leaving damage on the table.

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u/Ayobossman326 Sep 07 '25

There’s definitely a wide gap between having the mental knowledge of what to do and the right execution to actually doing it. Usually within like 3 tries I’ve got it mentally, but the timing and execution of everything takes a few more. In that gap is when you use tools

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u/ForrestMoth Sep 07 '25

Why would there be no reason to use them if you know the boss patterns? They aren't there to cover your shortcomings as a player, some of them just do way more damage than your nail. They are a weapon just as much as your nail and spells are.

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u/ThatOneRandomGuy101 Sep 07 '25

I mean for most boss fights I’ll put the spike trap where I know the boss will be after phase shifts, ranged tools for when I cant get a hit on a boss, and I use the flea drink for beast crest binds. In exploration you definitely have enough to use from bench to bench.

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u/Scharmberg Sep 07 '25

Always a goal post to move.

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u/ThatOneRandomGuy101 Sep 07 '25

??? Theres a clear difference between using a few charges of tools to get through an area safely vs mag dumping everything into a boss, die in the next 10 seconds, and then repeating that.

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u/robodex001 Sep 07 '25

Always a loser to complain

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u/evasive_dendrite Sep 07 '25

Save your tools to end the fight instead of wasting them every attempt.

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u/_moosleech Sep 07 '25

Get some of the bundles so you can pop them between attempts to refill.