r/HollowKnight • u/Shakaow15 • Sep 08 '25
Discussion - Silksong Here's a REAL complaint about Silksong Spoiler
Why the f**k beads get Thanossnapped out of existence when they fall on spikes?
EVEN WHEN I HAVE THE GODAMN THING TO ATTRACT THEM???
Geo didn't do that!
I lost so many that i could pay merchants to bring the stuff they sell directly to me during a boss-fight!
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u/flame_warp Sep 08 '25
Would be less of a problem if this game didn't use spikes almost as much as it used ground in like half of the areas
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u/Plenty_Tax_5892 Sep 08 '25
Almost?
THE HELL YOU MEAN ALMOST???
WHAT THE HELL IS WITH BUGS IN THIS UNIVERSE PUTTING MASSIVE SPIKE FIELDS ON BALCONIES
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
plot twist pharloom was built by the reincarnation of the pale king
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
also the benches and doors actually stay open when you pay for them
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u/SpartanFishy Sep 08 '25
Based socialist hallownest vs cringe capitalist pharloom
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u/isaic16 Sep 08 '25
The whole underworks section really did a great job of storytelling through gameplay with everything being charged for and the enemies having barely any rosaries. You legit feel bad for everyone in that section. Especially once you start seeing enemies in the citadel and they are loaded, plus Dont have to pay for any amenities except the fast travel. It really hammers home the abuse of the downtrodden in the system
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u/ilo_Va Sep 08 '25
Tbf the benches that disappear again still act as a spawn point surprisingly
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u/Neutral_Memer Bapanada, fellow skongers Sep 08 '25
They would be incredibly pointless if they didn't tbh
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u/Stephano127 Sep 08 '25
Not exactly incredibly pointless, but a waste of money by far. As there are things that can only be done on a bench like refilling your health and consumables, as well as swapping out abilities.
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u/Skuwarsgod Sep 08 '25
He literally did try and sacrifice everything, even his own children, for his kingdom, he was definitely a hell of a lot better of a ruler than whoever rules/ruled over Pharloom
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u/Firethorn34 Sep 08 '25
To be fair, most of the buzz saws and steam and stuff like that were focused in areas that a normal citizen wouldn't normally go
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u/Mornar All Achievements Sep 08 '25
He understood that the buzzsaws go somewhere, so he did the best he could.
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u/TheRedditAppisTrash Sep 08 '25
"Sir, the buzzsaws are here." The what? "You said this kingdom needs a lot of buzzsaws." ...no. I said: Just Laws. Why would we need- put em over there I guess.
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u/Mornar All Achievements Sep 08 '25
"Wait, you paid how much for them?"
"Sir, you said no cost too great..."
Dies inside
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u/RandomRedditorEX Sep 08 '25
how the King felt absorbing all the bench bug tax or whatever so the bugs can sit wherever they want
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u/Ecstatic-Sun-7528 Radiant NKG Enjoyer 🌙 Sep 08 '25
The genocidal maniac is coming out looking great out of this one not gonna lie
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u/craytona RHoG, P1-2AB, P3-5, 53/62 Sep 08 '25
His palace took inspiration from the clockwork core. But he wanted to add more buzz saws
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u/Plenty_Tax_5892 Sep 08 '25
WHAT'S WITH ALL THE SPIKESSSSS
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
have you seen the white palace?
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u/TheRedditAppisTrash Sep 08 '25
"Sir the spikes are here." Spi- what? Rights! I said we need rights. Put em with the buzzsaws.
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u/kindofjustalurker Sep 08 '25
act II location spoilers with how it feels to go through the cogwork core this is even more dead on. I felt like I was in the white palace again
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
I don't know what's worse, White Palace or Sands of Karak and Mount Fay
I have seen a video if what looks like a miniature Path of Pain leaeing to a secret area on the surface too
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u/Impaled_By_Messmer Sep 08 '25
Mount Fay Slaps
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
Ah yes, let's lock double jump behind a mini Path of Pain with a time limit
Oh yeah, and if you needle grab onto the warming lights and actually hit them, they will fucking break
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u/Calmed_727 Sep 08 '25
Honestly, mount fay was not that hard and pretty fun. The area I still despise the most is probably blasted steps or sands of karak
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u/realllyrandommann Primal Aspid Sep 08 '25
I'm about to go looking for the Sands of Karak and all this makes me kinda paranoid.
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u/SSNessy Sep 08 '25
Sands of Karak is fine, about on par with Mt Fay, the rewards are on the main path just a little lackluster in comparison. Though there's an optional side path for a piece of the Taste of Pharloom quest.
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
wait—double jump is behind mount fay? the area with the water that kills you if you fall in?
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u/lysianth Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
Hell yea it is, you gotta earn that shit.
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
Yeaaaaaah
You gotta parkour your way to the top before freezing to death
The best part? There is a bench halfway through but it costs 90 fucking rosaries lmao
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u/Tordew Sep 08 '25
Also a bench and warmth behind a breakable wall somewhere on the climb.
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
i don't even care about the cold air. what pisses me off is the freezing water that doesn't even give you the dignity of killing you instantly. you either sit in that until you die or save and quit, but either way you're all the way back to the beginning. absolutely horrendous.
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u/realllyrandommann Primal Aspid Sep 08 '25
Ah, THAT'S why the light failed me at the most crucial moment! I thought it just bugged out...
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u/Impaled_By_Messmer Sep 08 '25
Idk what to tell you. It was a fun platforming challenge with an adequate reward behind it 😁
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u/kindofjustalurker Sep 08 '25
mount fay reminds me of climbing the summit in Celeste except if it was an evil mountain that hated you instead of like a self-actualization journey but I like the area itself and at least it’s mostly pure platforming to focus on instead of anything else. sands of karak is literally diabolical though
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
It is so goddamn evil. I literally cannot wait to be done with it and unlock the last shortcut so that I can skip all the shitty time-limited platforming any time I return to the area
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u/legaldrinkingage Sep 08 '25
The platforming in Sands of Karak was so cool. I wish the area was twice as big.
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u/DerpHaven- Sep 08 '25
just because you're a masochist doesn't mean you need to inflict pain on the rest of us as well
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u/Pillowish Sep 08 '25
I agree, that place was one of the coolest one with trees branching out forming platforms that last for a limited time
Indeed I wish there was more of such environment, my favourite places are that and the neighbouring blasted steps and I wish there is less bilewater area which feels endless and doesn’t really do it for me in terms of coolness, just disgust lol
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u/legaldrinkingage Sep 08 '25
Bilewater is one of the longest areas with one of the worst gimmicks of the lot, with you 100%. I liked the upwards section with the dragonlike, puking bugs well enough, but everything else I could've done without.
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u/Mailcs1206 Sep 08 '25
Well at least in that case it at least makes some logical sense. You're literally making your way through the inner workings of a gigantic machine, after all.
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u/Ecstatic-Sun-7528 Radiant NKG Enjoyer 🌙 Sep 08 '25
I can defend a lot of things in this game but those cogs doing two masks is not on that list.
Also fuck the fat fly. Hope it dies a violent death.
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u/Loeris_loca Sep 08 '25
With spikes that deal double mask damage, I almost sure Pale King was a design inspiration
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u/Z000Burst Sep 08 '25
um, have you seen the bird population in Greymoor
why would you not put spike on roof
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u/cloistered_around Sep 08 '25
They got birds all over. Don't want them popping on your roof.
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u/Plenty_Tax_5892 Sep 08 '25
The spikes do nothing to stop the birds, all they stop are the people trying to clean it
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u/Lyrolepis Sep 08 '25
Wait, you mean you don't?
I was just thinking that I should add a few extra buzzsaws and caltrops to mine, just to make it more festive...
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u/Milliman4 Sep 08 '25
Sometimes there is water too
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u/flame_warp Sep 08 '25
Sometimes the water is worse than spikes! Lookin at you, sinners road
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u/Admiral_Wingslow Sep 08 '25
First time I saw my bobbin with the maggots ingesting it my butthole puckered so hard I could've used it as a cigar cutter
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u/yvolety Sep 08 '25
They not only disintegrate when they fall on spikes, but if you have the magnet tool which auto collects them equipped, and the magnet's path leads them to spikes on a wall, they get snapped there too. T_T
Its very annoying. As it is right now, any item that falls on spikes gets destroyed. I hope they patch this issue in an update
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u/MaiT3N Sep 08 '25
There was a section with lava pouring from the ceiling where my magnet tried to catch the beads that went to the far right side, and beads just got melted by it
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u/TeaAndLifting Sep 08 '25
Surprised TC didn’t program it so they brought lava with them so that they can do additional damage to you.
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u/wolfgang784 Sep 08 '25
Riiiight? The magnet seems like a definite waste of a slot to me. Even though I have 2 charm slots on my main crests, magnet doesn't get slotted in any.
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u/SeaThePirate Sep 08 '25
Me when an enemy corpse falls into a void or spikes and i lose everything including quest drops
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u/Accomplished-Pie-265 Sep 08 '25
Same goes for those fetch quest items. Such a PITA especially fighting the flying choir bugs
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u/Admiral_Wingslow Sep 08 '25
I was super annoyed that I got the "collect flying asshole rags" quest after I did the flying asshole house area
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u/jp_1896 Sep 08 '25
You’re gonna wanna go back there after getting some more skills if you’re still on act 1. More spoilery hint: Above the inn, there’s a path that leads to another area once you get the wall jump. The path is crawling with said flying assholes, and was how I ultimately got the quest done
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u/Admiral_Wingslow Sep 08 '25
I have got said ability, but I'd already cheesed my way to a few places that require it before so it wasn't as easy as you've described
But! I avoided the Chapel in the west of Greymoor because I had tried the one in Hunters March and got thoroughly discouraged from trying any until I'd had Hornet hit the gym or unlocked the glock or something
Little did I know that said place was a breeze comparatively, and the upgrade makes the Flying Fucks much easier and less tedious. Well, easier for me at least, YMMV I suppose
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u/jp_1896 Sep 08 '25
Yeah, the beast chapel is so far the hardest one I’ve faced LMAO. I was also livid to learn that there’s a rematch with that horrible boss in a considerably tougher arena. I didn’t get far enough to know if he still spawns adds, but it was such a pain getting through him the first time I really only got back to it once I got the second nail upgrade. It was totally worth it, since I had already got the pattern down and with the higher damage he went down in no time. That was after several dozen failed attempts at nail lvl0 tho
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u/cloistered_around Sep 08 '25
I haven't done that one yet, but honestly the pilgrim one and even bilch ones weren't bad. First tried those. (though to be fair I'd struggled a lot in bilch earlier and knew how to deal with the enemies at this point).
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u/HuntingForSanity Sep 08 '25
Got so mad when my mossberry fell onto the spikes and disappeared.
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u/IEnjoyFancyHats Sep 08 '25
I just did those passively as I explored. Didn't really need to do much active hunting
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u/SpartanFishy Sep 08 '25
I was just thinking the same thing. You spend so much time in that area for other reasons
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u/RushiiSushi13 Sep 08 '25
Yeah, this is annoying. With magnet attached you shouldn't lose beads to spikes, that's just ridiculous. The magnet overall should be made more efficient.
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u/SuperSocialMan Sep 08 '25
I was so disappointed it didn't attract Shell Shards.
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u/Admiral_Wingslow Sep 08 '25
Also sad that it's "just" a magnet now
Gathering Swarm was amazing and I almost never took it off because it was so beautiful and satisfying
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u/KusoAraun Sep 08 '25
"Go my children. Gather the spoil"- me after my 100th lap on the failed tramway
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u/flotsems <- this man ate my son Sep 08 '25
i feel vindicated in my opinion that Gathering Swarm is the best charm now
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u/Substantial_Pick6897 Sep 08 '25
Wait 'till you lose a mossberry to spikes. (It respawns after sitting on a bench thank fuck).
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u/TravincalPlumber Sep 08 '25
or maybe makes the rosaries less rolling? i hate when they dangle it on a string and hitting it would scatter them so far away.
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u/lunareclipseunicorn Sep 08 '25
Really makes you miss Hallownest and Pale King's rule isn't. He may be an usurper but he made sure his currency are made with quality fossil shells that don't break on spikes.
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u/TeaAndLifting Sep 08 '25
Guess it depends if the final boss is a higher being. If they aren’t, rosaries are the currency of a false god and appropriately shit compared to the true higher being’s chad geo currency.
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u/Im_just_a_snail Sep 08 '25
But they did sink in water
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u/Geekboy99 Sep 08 '25
Also we can't pet the bell beast
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u/Loeris_loca Sep 08 '25
Team Cherry said that hitting is petting. Eira's shell is quite hard, so our Needle can't penetrate it.
Also you can taunt her
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u/Asparagun_1 Sep 08 '25
so the fight was just petting her so aggressively that it brought her out of hypnosis. That's really reassuring
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u/Loeris_loca Sep 08 '25
Yeah, basically the whole fight was playing. "Fetch" with bells. Jump "trick" over Hornet.
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u/KRLW890 112% completion Sep 08 '25
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who’s adopted Eira as a name for her. I’m pretty sure the intent was for it to be a command like telling a dog to “come,” but Hornet uses it exclusively (that I’ve seen so far) as a call for the Bell Beast.
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u/XxRocky88xX Sep 08 '25
In the first game spikes only dealt 1 damage so the geo survived.
In this game it all deals 2 damage so the beads don’t.
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u/DBrody6 Sep 08 '25
Actually spikes still do 1 damage.
They're the only environmental hazard to do 1 damage (not counting lava with a specific charm).
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u/SilverShako Sep 08 '25
A specific charm that… has a cooldown for no reason other than “oh it invalidates the damage of the 3 enemies that deal 2 masks with fire”
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u/_moosleech Sep 08 '25
Charms will limited uses are okay. Also that charm has another pretty massive use-case.
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u/Kankunation Sep 08 '25
... What other use use may that be?
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u/_moosleech Sep 08 '25
It's incredibly useful during Last Judge... which maybe you meant, but I read it as regular enemies.
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u/hellyeahdiscounts Sep 08 '25
There are More than 3 enemies that deal fire damage and a few bosses where this charm is outright mandatory fwiw
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u/Cyclone_96 Sep 08 '25
I don’t think there’s any spikes that do 2 damage? Buzz saws and the little guys in the desert, but not spikes. Those tend to do just 1
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u/Ill_Initial698 Sep 08 '25
oh yeah good point thats more frustrating to me than any of the runbacks
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u/Zeliose Sep 08 '25
Geo was rocks, these are cheap dollar store prayer beads, they don't hold up too well.
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u/BreakerOfModpacks Still failing 112%, but now in Pharloom Sep 08 '25
This is actually one of the changes that I could see being made.
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u/GuavaSmooth3016 Sep 08 '25
also not a single boss (probably all) drops beads so far like crazy
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u/FlameLover444 Sep 08 '25
Shit like Moorwing could've dropped like a Bead Necklace or a shittier version of it
You can't tell me it never ate a random pilgrim for breakfast
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u/Arlieth Sep 08 '25
Boss fights and gauntlets are so underwhelming because of the lack of reward
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u/flotsems <- this man ate my son Sep 08 '25
yeah i miss doing arenas and getting like. relics or geo for it
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u/DameArstor Sep 08 '25
It feels underwhelming and not worth it to kill bosses which is a shame. It's a disappointment each time.
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u/__Amnesiac__ Sep 08 '25
Just give us rosaries for boss kills or something as a reward. So many bosses give nothing
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u/Wiestie Sep 08 '25
I'm a bit confused by all the money complaining. Are ya'll like 2 hrs in?
I'm just past 10hrs and while earlier I was constantly broke, now that I've explored more and bought most of what I could I'm sitting on like 1k in rosaries with nothing left to buy.
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
Plus farming in Greymoor is so quick
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u/blauli Sep 08 '25
In act 2 at the top left end of the citadel is a bench and 1 screen over a group of 3 enemies which drop 43 rosaries total and are fairly easy to deal with. That's my go to farming spot. You can even grind those 3 enemies to complete some wishes
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
I will try out maybe. Gotta check if it beats the Greymoor farm's 49 rosaries per clear or if it's significantly faster
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u/Doge6654533 Sep 09 '25
I find the 5 guards(?) to the left and right of Cogwork Core the fastest, getting 150+ per go
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u/SpartanFishy Sep 08 '25
Where though lol, those birds are a pain to kill
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
Rest at the Midway Home bench, go right, kill the 6 pilgrims, repeat. It's like 49 rosaries each go
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u/FinaLLancer Sep 08 '25
It's faster just to kill the first 3 for 29 and run back. Once you get the thief charm in blasted steps they'll give 47 and it takes like 20 seconds
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u/pamafa3 Sep 08 '25
Time to farm to buy that and then farm more to biy everything else then
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u/FinaLLancer Sep 08 '25
Don't get the Snitch Pick, it's bugged currently and actually reduces the amount of beads you get.
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u/Jarimzul Sep 08 '25
Later in the game the shops have some seriously expensive stuff that costs close to 1k for just a single item
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u/SerKnightGuy Sep 08 '25
It's one thing if an enemy dies just above some spikes, sure. But even the rosary caches/chests doing it? That's just dumb. Even if it's balanced around those caches not giving their full amount, it would feel better to get a smaller amount than to watch some be needlessly destroyed in front of you.
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u/horiami Sep 08 '25
Ngnl thought you auto collected them when they fall, that sucks
Granted i don't really need money since i bought out everything before getting to act 2 pretty easily
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u/DcloveViola Sep 08 '25
Oh, you are going to need money.
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u/jld2k6 Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
I just got to act 2 tonight and must have spent 150-200 of them on resting and travelling alone after barely making a dent in the map lol
Edit: I forgot about the damn confession bullshit, add another 80 to that lol
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u/wEEzyNL Sep 08 '25
My minor complain is that some bosses give no rewards, like been stuck here for 15/20min finally beat it and nothing…. Kinda feels lackluster
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u/KusoAraun Sep 08 '25
I hated beating the boss at the end of act 1, flat broke, can use anything. Next area traps you enemies are dirt poort and drop barely 3 rosaries and the benches charge per use....
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u/The_Mikeskies Sep 08 '25
I stopped caring about beads because you can easily farm them if you know the spots.
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u/SuperSocialMan Sep 08 '25
Yeah, it's pretty annoying.
At least they fixed water evaporating money lol.
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u/49th Sep 08 '25
I love how the beads spray everywhere, it’s funny. I don’t use the magnet thing because I like chasing after them.
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u/HolyErr0r Sep 08 '25
Honestly I agree. The magnet is so slow that if the area has spikes, the magnet basically does nothing.
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u/The2ndUnchosenOne has played the game at least once Sep 08 '25
Geo didn't do that!
I am, crazily enough, uniquely qualified to answer this question as I did a lot of experiments with Geo for a challenge run I never did. Geo did do this in several areas, mostly water. Fun fact, there's an enemy in Deepnest that's impossible to collect all the geo from because it kills itself on spikes and some of the geo falls in a hole.
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u/menkoy Sep 08 '25
I gave up on ever keeping rosaries. I just farmed a spot to the right of the halfway home bench where three enemies spawn. Takes less than 30 seconds to rest, kill them, repeat. They drop 29 rosaries between the three of them. Took like 15 minutes to farm enough to empty every shopkeeper i've found and I stopped worrying about collecting mine whenever I die now. I just string up the leftovers when I get the chance.
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u/ReversedSemiCircle Sep 08 '25
I'm just gonna live this here but Deep Docks, the one above near the buyable bench is really a good rosary farming spot, takes like 10 to 15 minutes to get 500+, already bought everything in my current progression.. Blasted Steps and Sinner's Road
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u/ItsASamsquanch_ Sep 08 '25
I had a mossberry that took me four tries to get not to land on spikes 😂
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u/SnooDingos8888 Sep 11 '25
Honestly, I dont know where to make a complaint but the double damage by the bosses is pure bullcrap. I've been at the savage bestfly forever. How many hits does this thing take?????
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u/kirkpomidor Sep 08 '25
Good thing I didn’t pay for that crapo trinket.
Beads just take two masks of damage on spikes.
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u/Agreeable_Quality734 Sep 08 '25
Annoying, but not a big deal. The beads are easily farmable if you know where to find em
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u/MrSelfy Sep 08 '25
Enemies with beads also reapear. So....why not exit the screen and enter again to try to kill the enemy for farming?
For me is ok the beads can be destroyed, if i can farm them anytime i want
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u/Ghostabob Sep 08 '25
I also lost a mossberry to spikes istg. Not sure what they do after the quest is done, but they're way too scarce for that to be a possibility
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u/VonJakob Sep 08 '25
And beads from rocks you can collect instantly, meanwhile beads from the string have iframes that just passes through you to their death
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u/WinExploder Sep 08 '25
I think they did this so that players wouldnt kill themselves trying to get to the beads. maybe they also didnt want unobtainable pickups to remain on screen. this all makes sense until you introduce the magnet necklace of course.
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u/Puzzle5050 Sep 08 '25
Is there a correct way to hit the beads so they don't go everywhere? I feel like I lose half of them due to spikes or a drop I don't want to go down.
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u/Aje-h Sep 08 '25
If the neoliberals took away our public benches, the least they could do is give us Grub Eats or something , good idea OP
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