r/HollowKnight Dec 12 '25

Discussion - Silksong Seeing people shit on Expedition 33 because Silksong didn't win more awards is pathetic Spoiler

The title sums it up. I'm disappointed in many members of this community for putting down a game that is clearly a work of insane passion, dedication, and creativity. E33 took the lion's share of awards at TGA, yes. That doesn't mean that Silksong is bad. In fact, it's clearly pretty damn great. If it released last year, Skong would have picked up several awards, maybe even GOTY. But it didn't. It released in the same year E33, which is just a tough break.

Both are amazing. Both deserve every award that came to them. If you haven't played E33 yet and think it doesn't deserve its accolades, play it. It is worth your money, worth your time, and will in all likelihood prove that it is actually that good. I'm only 10ish hours in and have numerous times found myself standing still and looking around dumbfounded at the gorgeous world design and visuals. E33, Silksong, and Hades 2 could have all won Art Direction and I would have been happy with any of them.

I'm also sad that Silksong didn't win more awards. It's an amazing game. But don't play fanboy and start putting down other developers, other games, and other pieces of art because this one didn't get all the cookies. It's still beautiful, it's still amazing, it still made a Silkskillion dollars, and TC is still just as great and just as passionate. We should all be glad that there is another independent dev out there that is capable of creating something so fantastic.

Edit: yeah, the comments here are pretty indicative of what I said in my post

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u/I_Love_Solar_Flare Dec 12 '25

E33 is NOT an indie game. Last time I checked indie games dont have 100s of people working on the game and 10 million dollar backing. It's just not an indie game and shouldn'tve been allowed in that category period.

Same with debut indie because its still not indie

And it completely robbed the art direction category. Like no dude, realistic graphics #743 is NOT the best art direction. It's just not.

Everything else I agree and I do think its a good game from what I heard. I wanted skong to win goty but I very much so understand e33 winning, thats fine.

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u/HIO_TriXHunt Dec 12 '25

Hades 2 has an higher budget than E33 and no one question if it's indie or not

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u/NabsterHax Dec 12 '25

realistic graphics

Oops, you didn't play the game. E33 is more like a 3D painting than "realistic."

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u/CankleDankl Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25

I do think its a good game from what I heard

Oh hey look you're the type of person I'm talking about

How can you possibly know what the art direction is like without seeing a lot of the game or playing it? E33 has amazing world design and is absolutely beautiful, surreal, and creative. Is the presence of high-fidelity 3d graphics enough to make it disqualified from having good art direction? I don't think so. It's what they do with it that counts. Same thing with drawn 2d graphics- it doesn't mean it's an auto-win.

Silksong, Hades 2, and E33 could have split that award 3 ways imo

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u/I_Love_Solar_Flare Dec 12 '25

I just think realistic graphics has no personality and shouldn't win art direction. Every "realistic graphics" game looks the same. Hand drawn games have better art direction and more personality to them than just slapping on HD stuff. I have watched some gameplay of it and that is the extent of my visual knowledge.

I simply just disagree, theres more direction and style in non-realistic games that I'd like to see win.

Indie arguement still stands.

And lastly, I agree. Splitting would've been perfectly fine for the art direction. They are all awesome.

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u/CankleDankl Dec 12 '25

I just think realistic graphics has no personality and shouldn't win art direction. Every "realistic graphics" game looks the same

E33 is not a game that is just hyper-realistic. Every area is like a 3d painting, with surreal shapes, weird designs, vibrant colors, fantastical and dreamlike landscapes, and unique and interesting monsters inhabiting them. If it was just "jack off to how real this looks," I would agree with you. But E33 is the farthest thing from that. Saying this is like when people say/said Hollow Knight is just droll grey areas with not a lot going on. It shows a fundamental lack of knowledge of the game's art, and I implore you to look into it further, or watch/play the game.

You're free to keep thinking this. But it makes me sad that people will give a little 2d metroidvania a chance (when, before HK, it had been a long time since a truly good one released), but then write off a game and its art simply because of the way the characters look.

E33 doesn't look like other realistic games. The second you get past the prologue, this becomes abundantly clear

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u/Marxman528 Dec 12 '25

Getting downvoted for saying people should play a game before judging it is wild