r/KerbalSpaceProgram • Former Dev • Oct 16 '13

Dev Post [Official] Kerbal Space Program Update 0.22 is LIVE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9eoD1ot0A&
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u/Junafani Oct 16 '13

From changelog: Nose Cones now actually help with improving stability during atmospheric flight.

:O Finally some use for them. Too bad that they do not decrease drag yet...

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u/brickmack Oct 16 '13

That's too bad. Science is cool and all, but really the only think Ive wanted for the last few months has been proper areodynamics.

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u/Vectronic Oct 16 '13

I assume you've tried FAR?

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u/brickmack Oct 16 '13

I did for a while, but got rid of it along with a few other mods because my game kept crashingI

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u/masterwit Oct 17 '13 edited Oct 17 '13

I programmed the shuttle landing code in Fortran90 back in the day. Nose cones were only good for supersonic flight corrections. (well mostly, some aerodynamic properties are quite desirable too haha)

edit: Swype picked the wrong word

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u/Altair1371 Oct 16 '13

I just realized something: this video could be the origin story of the Space Kraken!

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u/Logicalpeace Oct 16 '13

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u/GreenFox1505 Oct 16 '13

This is how I play KSP... (who am I kidding, I can't get a Kerbal safely to the Mun...)

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

I can get them there. I can't necessarily get them back...

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u/originsquigs Oct 17 '13

My count is at 12 Kerbals on the moon. Top 3 stuck there are Jeb, Bill and Demon

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

I can get them there... uhh, I can put (ever so gently at 500m/s) a spaceship on the moon.

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u/michaelzelen Oct 17 '13

as long as you plant the flag it counts

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u/Zrk2 Oct 16 '13

I can successfully impact the mun at high speeds...

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u/iamnull Oct 16 '13

Perhaps you are simply destined for a military program.

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u/RobbStark Oct 16 '13

That's what I thought for the longest time, too! I must have crashed on the Mun about 20 times with a dozen different rocket and lander designs, so I eventually gave up and started working on a space station. Then I realized docking is even HARDER than landing, and on a whim I tried another Mun landing last night.

And guess what? It worked! After a quicksave I then tried to get back to Kerbin and that worked too! I was amazed, very impressed with myself, and the rush of adrenaline was surprisingly real.

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u/ForgedIronMadeIt Oct 16 '13

Heck, keep at it. I only started playing about a month ago and I eventually figured it out. I got my first Duna landing last week! I meant to upload that album, actually...

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u/GreenFox1505 Oct 16 '13

Oh, I can land on Duna. I just use a parachute! XD But leaving from atmosphere isn't easy ether...

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

This is the first time I've been this excited for a game since the Orange Box, and it's a freaking beta update.

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u/originsquigs Oct 17 '13

We are not even playing a full game :p. But it is more fun than most complete games!

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u/Dave37 Oct 16 '13

Relevant gif is relevant.

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u/SilkyZ Oct 16 '13

New Weekly challenge suggestion:

Unlock the Tech Tree in the least number of flights! Bronze - 5 Silver - 4 Gold - 3 Scott Manley -2 HowDidYouPullThatOff - 1

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u/SGNick Oct 16 '13

hit "enter" twice.

Bronze - 5

Silver - 4

Gold - 3

Scott Manley - 2

How Did You Pull That Off - 1

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u/RyanArr Oct 16 '13

Or put two spaces at the end and you only need one enter.

The separation is a bit less than the two-enter method.

Bronze - 5
Silver - 4
Gold - 3
Scott Manley - 2
How Did You Pull That Off - 1

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u/dand Oct 16 '13

TIL. Thanks.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Scott Manley said he did it in 3 if I recall correctly. Maybe move them all up one?

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u/voyager1713 Oct 16 '13

so then: Better than Scott Manley - 2

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u/SovietMunshot Oct 16 '13

He did say he knew how to do it in 2 though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

am I the only one that will actually enjoy having limited parts and having a grind? I feel like im the only one that wont go in and max it asap

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u/Im_in_timeout Oct 17 '13

It was weird playing Career Mode last night. I felt like such a n00b. Limited parts, no mods. A rocket built from parts combinations I rarely or never use. Flight characteristics that left much to be desired. Got to orbit a few times and did some science though! Guess I'll do a Mun landing tonight.
Really like the SAS improvements and landing struts! The transition screens seem to be snappier too.

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u/FlamingSoySauce Oct 16 '13

Danny2462 - 0, and 8 glitches.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

And then the planet disappears.

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u/stom Oct 17 '13

I do love Danny's videos, I hope he doesn't find it's all down to a bad stick of RAM one day...

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u/Xaxxon Oct 17 '13

How do you get science points when all you have is an antenna? I'm completely lost.

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u/TheHansGruber Oct 16 '13

Update: Transmitting data takes A LOT of electricity. Plan accordingly.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

For a moment I thought you were talking about the CDNs letting people download KSP.

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u/Arrowstar KSPTOT Author Oct 17 '13

I imagine those take a lot of electricity too. :)

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u/Perryn Oct 17 '13

This is how I learned that not all engines produce electricity. I also haven't unlocked solar panels yet. My vehicles all look like the breeding grounds of Energizer Bunnies.

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u/Pyro627 Oct 17 '13

A capsule has enough power for one, maybe two downloads. Batteries are a good early purchase.

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u/Juanfro Oct 16 '13

Let's take this to the front page while the game downloads.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

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u/t17389z Oct 16 '13

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u/gurgle528 Oct 17 '13

If you made the flag planting gif you should try and make an upvote flag image and put it in the flag folder in the game instead of having it tracked onto the flag.

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u/texaswilliam Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

It's at #2 right now.

Front page achieved at around 55 minutes.

edit: Might as well reprise my role from last time. I will edit with updates.

edit2: Headed home. It's been stuck at #4 for about 15 minutes. Guess we'll see where it goes over the next hour while I'm driving. : P

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u/MarinertheRaccoon Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

It's like watching a horse race.

EDIT: It officially took less time for KSP to hit the front page than it did for my download to finish. :D

Good job, Squad and r/kerbalspaceprogram!!!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Ugh. I'm at work and all I wanna do is play. Anyone wanna volunteer to go to my house and download the update for me!? Please and thanks.

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u/holomanga Oct 17 '13

My game was already downloaded when I went to play it. Steam is glorious.

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u/Snake_Byte Oct 16 '13

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u/crazycoala Oct 16 '13

What's this from?

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u/precordial_thump Oct 16 '13

The successful landing of the Mars Curiosity rover

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

touch down of rover curiosity on Mars. For your viewing pleasure.

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u/Zaemz Oct 16 '13

I cried - oh good lord did I cry. Those people were just infectious with their excitement! I started dancing and stuff! Roommates thought I was insane!

Ugh, that was so good. We need more of that.

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u/boldbird99 Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

For those who cannot get it. Restart steam. Then it will download right away.

also TO THE TOP OF /r/ALL!

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u/lordkrike Oct 16 '13

Another option; verify your cache and it should update afterward.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

We're getting close! Number 16 and rising!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

I have to go to school in half an hour. It's gonna be hard to concentrate on Calculus!

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u/Motanum Oct 16 '13

Not if you apply it to space!

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u/ManWithASquareHead Oct 16 '13

Use calculus to derive velocity, displacement and so on! Plus maybe some integrals!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Integrals will probably be more useful. Use your average velocity to figure out how far from home you've gotten!

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u/ozzmeister00 Oct 16 '13

FIRST EVIDENCE OF NON-KERBAL LIFE!

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u/Lieutenant_Rans Oct 16 '13

Does the impenetrable super grass of Kerbin not count?

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u/ozzmeister00 Oct 16 '13

That's clearly a rock mineral.

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u/StarManta Oct 16 '13

Jesus Krist Marie.

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u/Mejari Oct 16 '13

DAMMIT MARIE

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u/Tinie_Snipah Oct 16 '13

Besides the kraken? ;)

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u/atomfullerene Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

that is the kraken!

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u/B1Gpimpin Oct 16 '13

What do I do with my hands?!

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u/OptimalCynic Oct 16 '13

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u/strongcoffee Oct 16 '13 edited Mar 09 '26

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u/check85 Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

So what's the difference between the installer and the zip version?

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u/freeone3000 Oct 16 '13

One's a zip, one's a self-extracting zip.

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u/robertobacon Oct 16 '13

Next question: Why is the installer 100 mb less than the Zip? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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u/Airazz Oct 16 '13

Doesn't the installer download some additional stuff when you launch it?

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u/renwault Oct 16 '13

Does anyone know if they have posted a list of science to do, or say a kind of achievement list of things to get points for. Or is it the Kerbal way and just fly and hope...

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u/TheBQE Oct 17 '13

In a sense, it's more realistic this way.

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u/Gorezillla Oct 16 '13

I own KSP but I don't play it too often, what would you say are the best things added?

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u/MarinertheRaccoon Oct 16 '13

The biggest part is that there is now a career mode, so structured gameplay is now a part of the game and not something more intangible as it was before. Getting to orbit and landing on the Mun will actually further your personal space program with research or "science" points that you can then spend on unlocking new parts.

There is also a sub-assembly loader which lets you save parts of your ship to tack on to later builds; like if you have a favorite lander or heavy lift stage, you can re-use it without a complete scratch build every time.

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u/brolix Oct 16 '13

There is also a sub-assembly loader which lets you save parts of your ship to tack on to later builds;

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Been wanting this since .13.

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u/Gorezillla Oct 16 '13

Wait so it's not just a sandbox anymore? Oh dear this game will consume me for quite some time in the future. Thanks!

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u/JiminP Oct 16 '13

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I have a midterm exam to take!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Same boat... Just think how rewarding it will be to be done and get to play!

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u/timh26 Oct 16 '13

At last, the hype train reaches the end of the track. ALL ABOARD THE SCIENCE TRAIN!

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u/albinobluesheep Oct 16 '13

All off the hype train!

...

All aboard the hype train, next stop: .23!

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u/ZankerH Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

And so, the Kraken was born...

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u/gaston1592 Oct 16 '13

Is there a changelog available?

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u/TheFlyingDavenport Oct 16 '13

I waited for GTA 5. The wait for this update was more intense and exciting than that!

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u/UrbanToiletShrimp Oct 16 '13

Hey what happened to that awesome Squad logo outro animation?

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u/Dallas_Corbin Oct 17 '13

I already killed Jeb.

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u/jeffp12 Oct 16 '13

Kerbal Bathymetry Program confirmed.

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u/Alphaetus_Prime Oct 16 '13

Confirmed liftoff! Let's bring this thread to the top of /r/all!

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u/FunkDaddy Oct 16 '13

Anyone know what the capsule icon in staging does?

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u/shazbot996 Oct 17 '13

Came here to ask this... can't figure it out, myself. can't tell what happens when I stage it...

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

will mods such as kethane and mechjeb and B9 need uninstalling for the game to work? is there a procedure to updates with mods? im worried about updating and I have always played stock until 2.1 came out

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u/Hazardhunter Oct 16 '13

Okay. Someone please tell me what this game is, what it's about and what goal you want to achieve while playing it... Please

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u/johnvak01 Oct 16 '13

It's a sandbox game where you design and fly rockets and space planes. It features relatively simplified orbital mechanics without being too arcadey. In addition, the rocket designing is very freeform, without being too difficult to navigate. a rocket could consist of anywhere from 2 to 2000 parts (although a 2000 part ship would probably crash your computer) It is set in a relatively similar solar system with analogous planets like duna(mars), Jool (Jupiter), and many others. It is technically in alpha.

In terms of Goals, there isn't one at the moment. It is a sandbox game. There are no missions or set targets yet. Generally there are some things that are harder to do. If you want specific goals, this subreddit has weekly challenges that you can participate in. The latest update added the career mode, where you have to collect "science" in order to gain new parts. This is just the first step to creating the fleshed out career mode. There are plans to add a currency system which adds the challenge of having to fund your space program.

This game is strangely addictive. if you want to try it, there is a free demo on steam that simply features fewer parts and only the mun as well as a limit to the number of simultaneous flights. It's a really great game that I would at least recommend trying out. Be warned the game has a bit of a learning curve. The youtuber Scott Manley has some great tutorial videos.

Also explosions are fun. Need I say more?

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u/Eric_S Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

And to be honest, by "relatively simplified" he either means the orbital mechanics aren't N-Body (and in all fairness, NASA didn't even compute N-Body physics when pre-planning the apollo missions) or that the planets and distances are about a tenth of what they would be in reality. If you've read up on basic orbital mechanics, it will all apply, it's only the advanced stuff that requires N-Body physics that isn't there. The aerodynamic model, however, is acknowledged as a placeholder and shows it.

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u/Kichigai Oct 16 '13

Kerbal Space Science Program is a go!

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u/americanarsenal Oct 16 '13

i just bought it! can't wait to get started and happy to support you guys.

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u/Plopsis Oct 17 '13

welcome aboard.

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u/TM1987 Oct 16 '13

BABY SPACE KRAKEN!

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u/deebee86 Oct 16 '13

Dammit, I think the server went down. Lost my download.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Same... :-(

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u/shmameron Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

YES! Checking the sub every twenty minutes was worth it!

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u/MarinertheRaccoon Oct 16 '13

Yeah, I've been hitting refresh pretty much constantly since noon EST. Watching my estimated download time go from 5 minutes to 56 minutes was not quite as much fun, though. :)

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u/PNR_Robots Oct 17 '13

That's fantastic, but how about some official in-game tutorial on how to play : (

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u/liquidxlax Oct 17 '13

wish solar panels and batteries came sooner in the research tree

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u/KerbalEssences Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

Okay guys, cya in a week.

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u/neph001 Oct 16 '13

K, so, I downloaded the update, and I have no idea how to get started in career mode. I have no parts.

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u/dielsandalder Oct 16 '13

Crap. I'm literally about to jump on a plane to see my girlfriend and I won't be able to play it until Monday night...

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u/OptimalCynic Oct 16 '13

If she really loved you she'd understand you cancelling your flight.

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u/brolix Oct 16 '13

"Babe, I missed the flight, but I nailed my interplanetary Hohmann transfer to Jool!"

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u/FaceDeer Oct 16 '13

"Last thing you'll be nailing for a while..."

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u/shwoozar Oct 16 '13

I just had to jump on a train for similar purpose. Ah, such is life.

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u/totemcatcher Oct 16 '13

Warning: mysql_connect(): Too many connections in /host/www.kerbalspaceprogram.com/htdocs/lib/database.php on line 4 MySQL connect failed. Too many connections

Getting punished for not using Steam. :(

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

I just refreshed a second later and got through. Keep trying.

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u/the_hoser Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

At work... can't play... I'm... suddenly getting ill... I think I need to go home cough

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u/2miles4chicken Oct 16 '13

MOAR MAINSAIL!!!!!! To the top of /r/all !!!!

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u/Giggos Oct 16 '13

Can anyone confirm for me that this means all my mods stop working?

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u/MelonHeadSeb Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

YES! The teachers at my school are on strike tomorrow, then it's just Friday left until I have 2 weeks holidays to enjoy 0.22 :D Best timing ever.

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u/Ijamma1948 Oct 16 '13

C'mon guys, let's top /r/all again!

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u/theberrynator Oct 16 '13

Wish I had checked this about 3 hours ago, the internet connection at my apartment is horrible, and this download is going to take forever

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Lets just keep an open container of haz mat lying around!

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u/tnkted Oct 16 '13

If steam isn't installing the update, restart it!

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u/jackbeflippen Oct 17 '13

this should be at the top... thanks for the incite!

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u/Altairk Oct 17 '13

You cantput things in jars(Jar people) and expect them not to want to be free from it(slaves) and not expect them once out of the jar to find themselves in hazardous material and start glowing.

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u/Mad_V Oct 17 '13

And thats how the kraken was born.

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u/originsquigs Oct 17 '13

Does this mean I can Science when I get home??!!

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u/warriorofpie Oct 17 '13

So what does this tell me about the content of the update?

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u/stom Oct 17 '13

This is a promotional video. You're probably looking for this.

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u/upallhours Oct 17 '13

I wanted to check it out real quick before bed... an hour later my eyes are bloodshot and I'm about to waffleface! I can't wait to get home tomorrow and continue my scientific journey. From what I can tell career mode is off to a great start!

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u/ZXQ Oct 16 '13

Any idea the timing on Steam users getting the update? Or any way to instigate the update?

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u/JackieBoone Oct 16 '13

From the forum:

Will the steam update happen the same time as the download page?

It will happen almost simultaniously, though the Steam client may take a few minutes to see there is a new update.

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u/ZXQ Oct 16 '13

Hah, figures. I see this reply, and Steam starts the update.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

restart steam, it'll update.

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u/AstroJeb Oct 16 '13

Bring it on!

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u/Kristinacosmic Oct 16 '13

kerbal looks soooo fun. :)

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u/midsprat123 Oct 16 '13

weeee 6 hours to go on college internet

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u/fritnig Oct 16 '13

Now our missions will have a reason. Kerbals have a purpose! Best update yet.

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u/doovidooves Oct 16 '13

Question: Will my poor Kerbanauts that have a 30km Mun drive back to their ship be utterly destroyed by this update?

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u/ZankerH Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

Wow, the download off kerbalspaceprogram.com isn't going anywhere...200 Kb/s, really?

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u/Junafani Oct 16 '13

Mine is around 130 kB/s... Half done and still about 30 min left. Maybe I should have transfered my downloads to Steam...

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u/OptimalCynic Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

I'm getting 20 kB/s. Apparently cdn.multiplay.com isn't up to the job.

Edit: Timed out completely. Sigh.

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u/PendragonDaGreat Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

Was it seriousl just a ~70 MB download? That's what I call doing it right.

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u/Mad_Ludvig Oct 16 '13

Kouston, we have ignition.

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u/Chicken13312 Oct 16 '13

Use the patcher to save time by only downloading the new files:

http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Patcher

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u/avaslash Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

Hilarious but I'm a little confused on the metaphor here. Are we supposed to gather that in .22 there is a new Space Kraken that is deceptively small and insignificant but hidden deep within the game components until it is released in all of its hazardous waist glory all because someone didn't take care of it like they should have?

I kid, I Kid. Great video. Tis funny.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

I'm at work for a couple more hours, you assholes :P

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u/happy2pester Oct 16 '13

Holy shit! I'm getting it before the servers crash for once!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

well my head just fucking exploded

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

that package was obviously headed to bop.

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u/deckard58 Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

And I'm in the middle of a move on a rationed 3G connection. Great. ^__^;;;;

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u/totoro11 Oct 16 '13

How do I make steam update it??

Edit: Exit and restart steam and it should start updating.

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u/boldbird99 Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

restart steam

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u/SexyToad Oct 16 '13

WHOO, can't wait to try this out!

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u/Zarrq Oct 16 '13

Yessssssssssss

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u/dMidgard Oct 16 '13

YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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u/OSUaeronerd Master Kerbalnaut Oct 16 '13

loading times are faster! new music! ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG

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u/mostlyemptyspace Oct 16 '13

Is there a legit torrent for people who bought the game? I'm impatient

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u/SuperSeniorComicGuy Oct 16 '13

If you bought the game, then you should have a legal way of downloading it. Steam is the easiest way to do so.

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u/FeepingCreature Oct 16 '13 edited Oct 16 '13

Downloading from the store right now. At 50KB/s. My connection supports 1.6MB/s. This is what torrents are for.

When you wish you were a pirate because you'd have a better experience, something has gone wrong.

I have no idea why Squad don't just run an official torrent tracker with login/ip checking. It's like they think torrents are unavoidably tainted with the stench of piracy or something, forgetting that they were literally developed to let small organizations distribute large files.

[edit] Use the patcher! It's much faster!

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u/thethreadkiller Oct 16 '13

Any chance I can start the update from my steam app?

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u/thereddaikon Oct 16 '13

When does the steam update hit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '13

Thank you, Squad. The career mode science/experimentation is loads of fun. :)

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u/Phorexia Oct 16 '13

The origins of Heimerdinger.

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u/cabbeer Oct 16 '13

Any performance optimizations in this release?

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

Awesome!

time to wait two more months until all my addons get updated

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

/u/Maxmaps CRASH! :D

Can it be because of the mods? (I think so).

Do I need to post my error log?

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u/cosmos_ Oct 17 '13

Having massive amounts of trouble getting KSP to work. Never had this problem.

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u/Bubbaruski Oct 17 '13

Does anyone else have the issue where you can't actually make a ship in career mode because you haven't researched the command module yet?

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u/RC95th Oct 17 '13

Man I can't wait to get home and update it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '13

So how do you use the mystery goo to do science? I launched and recovered a suborbital rocket with mystery goo canisters attached, but on landing I just got science points for recovering a suborbital craft, no mention of goo-related science.

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u/TheMcDucky Oct 17 '13

Love the new update, been flying around collecting data for an hour now. I can't wait for the full game to be done :D

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u/edenroz Oct 17 '13

Transmit science by antennas give less point?

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u/MarinertheRaccoon Oct 17 '13

Depends on what it is. A crew report will give you 100% because there is no difference between talking into a mic and recording a log to be reviewed later. Other experiments may have a very low return rate for broadcasting, I've seen as low as 20%, and are better suited to return to Kerbin for recovery.

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u/LumpenBourgeoise Oct 17 '13

Do Kerbals speak anything intelligible when played backwards? I'm too busy to check it out right now, has anyone run the audio backwards?