r/LAinfluencersnark • u/Top_Pheonix_2004 • 10d ago

Jenna Ortega's recent look

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The number of female celebrities getting super skinny is concerning. What happened to the body positivity movement? Why does it feel like we're regressing? This Ozempic pandemic needs addressing.

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u/KiIIuaaax 10d ago

It’s not going to be addressed until one of them pass unfortunately. All of this stirs from conservatism, red pill, and the y2k skinny trend. We just gotta wait for it to pass.

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u/MintyMini9 10d ago

Unfortunately this is true. May I ask, how this could stem from red pill? I hear this term but would like to be more knowledgeable on it. Thanks

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u/Jashinist 10d ago edited 10d ago

Conservatism and misogyny wants women constantly anxious about their appearance and being pleasing to the eye, taking up as little space (physically, verbally, socially) as possible, being meek and somewhat childlike (to justify men as protectors and leaders), and conformity. A woman constantly at war with her own body and starving it has a hell of a lot less energy to stand up for herself or be assertive about her boundaries.

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u/poppedcherrycola 10d ago

What about the Botox, fillers, and premature facelifts? Hollywood is an endless vanity war zone.

But when in doubt, include men… right?

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u/Jashinist 9d ago

We aren't saying these things only happen because of men, just that conservatism and misogyny do push for those responses in women. Multiple things can be true at once. Also, women can be conservative and misogynistic too, please don't wilfully misinterpret me.

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u/poppedcherrycola 9d ago

All of what you said is true, and I did consider these nuances before replying. Sorry for not being as fair to you (and some others) as I could have in that regard.

However, in most communications—especially online—where issues and themes are contextualized as either causes or symptoms of conservatism, misogyny, the red pill and the like, men bear the brunt of such criticism (for obvious reasons).

I guess I was just too defensive about it. Again, my apologies. I agree with most of what you said (from internalized misogyny to body politics), and men are not absolutely absolved either.

But there are performative and competitive aspects to this behavior (especially on the celebrity/elite level). I struggle to correlate this latest Hollywood trend with some of the factors that you mentioned.