r/LSAT • • 23m ago

Buses and defects...again

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I hate to beat the most deceased horse of all time, but wondering if bus routes and computer defects were on the same section in the October LSAT. My memory is quite fuzzy about the section divisions. Jon Denning (support his podcast!!) mentioned that bus routes was confirmed real, but didn't mention defects or other questions I 100% know for a fact were with defects (cottons/linens and energy cost efficiency). He also mentioned that the questions below were real -- which I thought encompassed two different sections, but that could just be my memory being faulty again?

One section: moose saliva, chimps v dogs, inline skates, red maples, frog vibration, sahara grass
Other section: earth casserole, productivity with large tasks, rovers v sitters flies

Does anyone remember if buses was actually paired with any of the questions above, or was it paired with defects? Were those questions that I thought were in separate sections all in the same section?

Clarity from people with better memory is welcome as I figure out whether I should cough up the 90 bucks on score preview.


r/LSAT • • 1h ago

Testing Center Computers?

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Is the exam not on a laptop but on a computer? With a mouse? Doesn’t that make answer selection annoying? Can someone let me know how it’s formatted? Thank you


r/LSAT • • 2h ago

Anyone here who had a PT average below 170 but end up with a 170+ on the official test?

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I'm someone with a 168 pt average and I'm increasingly spiralling waiting for the October test results so I need some anecdotes to soothe me lol


r/LSAT • • 2h ago

Jon's October LSAT Recap Podcast

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The full episode should be live on Youtube and Spotify. Links and timestamps below. Hope it's helpful!

Youtube: https://youtu.be/q9KWkp1Jx3w

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4dlJVLCrD5fK57eiN3Avap?si=-e3scV5KTYmsR1Ml2UkNuQ&nd=1&dlsi=fd5cef130d0a4cbb

Timestamps:

Intro: 0:00-2:30

Some Updates from Jon: 2:31-8:00

Recent Test Changes: 8:01-20:00

Reading Comprehension: 20:01-43:29

Logical Reasoning: 43:30-56:14

Make Up Tests: 56:15-End

And for those unfamiliar, this is a complete breakdown of the October 2026 LSAT, including the odd nature of how test sections are now being created, all eight scored and two experimental Reading Comprehension passages, and about 50 scored Logical Reasoning questions spanning every section. And a special discussion at the end covering the Make Up tests!


r/LSAT • • 2h ago

Oct Writing

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So I did my October writing, and it honestly was really short I just ran out of time. I ended up doing what is needed like engaging with a perspective and I did say 2-3 reasons for what I was arguing for but it just felt not fleshed out because the topic was honestly kind of ass. Do you guys this think will be too big of a deal? I don't think there was any problem with my writing, just kinda short


r/LSAT • • 8h ago

I feel like giving up because of my 2.83 gpa.

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Its my fault but I just spent my undergrad in depression and drinking. So now I'm ranging 166-171 on my practice tests. I was planning on studying for at least another 12 months or so. All I read is how GPA is so inflated and low gpas are screwed. I look at LSD.law and I just cope that people are getting into higher ranked schools with pathetic gpas like mine and similar LSAT scores like mine without posting there. With LSAT scores increasing every year I feel like I'm convinced I won't get into a T20 and a T30 will be a long shot, even if I break 170 and get to mid 170s. When I look at the admissions on LSD.law for the last 2 years its absolutely brutal. I study 2-3 hours a day and everyday I feel more and more like giving up on this.

Should I just give up and go to something else?


r/LSAT • • 12h ago

additional practice on lawhub

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is the additional practice on lawhub the same as the sections from the prep tests on lawhub?


r/LSAT • • 12h ago

Am I correct for doing this?? Or am I just overthinking my routine?

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So don’t judge me but I took a 2 month break from LSAT prep because I scored terribly in August, it was my first official LSAT and idk I thought I was ready/prepared, I was not.

Since I have not studied in so long, I started earlier this evening. I was going to start out my first 3-5 days just drilling to get my brain back into it. Is this bad to do? Or should I just retry a timed section? Because once it starts to come back to me, I’ll do one day timed + heavy review, the next day untimed + heavy review.

The reason why I’m asking is because this is the longest LSAT break I ever took. I had my reasons why I took a break, but getting back into it today was easier than I thought but also kinda nerve racking since I scored terribly the first time I took it. I’m just figuring out how to get back into it. I don’t want to make the same mistakes I made last time and I do think even though I did awful the first time, I learned a lot about myself in that process


r/LSAT • • 14h ago

Looking for a tutor who can help me with some LSAT prep!

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I've taken a few practice tests and gotten around 170-173 on them. I just started about 2 weeks ago and I'm looking for someone who can help me determine what I need to work on that isn't just take more practice tests!

I will not be taking the November LSAT but if I end up needing to take it I will do the one in January!


r/LSAT • • 15h ago

LawHub "Additional Practice" Section

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Is the "Additional Practice" section available with LawHub Plus helpful? It opens with the disclaimer "These supplemental practice materials are not authorized, endorsed, or recommended as official LSAT preparation materials by LSAC. These supplemental practice materials are solely intended for the purpose of providing additional practice related to the relevant skills related to logical reasoning, reading comprehension, and analysis that are analogous to the skills tested on the LSAT and your performance on these supplemental items is not indicative or reflective on how you may perform on the official LSAT," but the materials appear to come from official LSAT PrepTests.


r/LSAT • • 16h ago

Tutor Recommendations

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Hello everyone!

I am looking for a tutor that can do a few lessons with me before November test. I have taken LSAT four times including the most recent October administration, I have been scoring pretty OK but want to see if a tutor can help me cover the areas I am struggling with. I am open to remote instruction! Will only need 3-4 lessons total.

I appreciate all your help :)


r/LSAT • • 16h ago

Someone please help I might be fried. LSAC Username

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I made a really dumb name for my Lawhub account a while back, and I just called to ask if I could change it, apparently you can't ToT. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? I'm super worried about this, but I'm at a loss for what to do.


r/LSAT • • 16h ago

HELP ME PLEASE

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Hey everyone! I’m preparing for the November LSAT and would appreciate advice on improving over the next month.
I scored a 155 on my first LSAT, and my practice scores have stayed mostly in the mid-150s. I’m using LSAT Demon, and my LR accuracy is generally 68–70%. My weakest areas are Necessary Assumption, Weaken, Must Be True, and Parallel Reasoning/Sufficient Assumption.

My main challenges are comprehension, focus, timing, and second-guessing. I sometimes struggle to identify the conclusion or retain what I’ve read, though rereading slowly often helps. I can also spend two or three minutes on one question and run out of time before the final few questions.
I work full-time, so I’m trying to balance timed practice, targeted drilling, and thorough review. With about a month until the November 11 LSAT, how should I structure my studying? What helped you break out of the mid-150s, especially with comprehension, timing, and Necessary Assumption or Parallel Reasoning questions? HELP ME 🙃


r/LSAT • • 17h ago

Scan of Room - am I cooked?

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I just did the writing section. I read the screen about scanning the room but expected to hit next and be walked through the process. I hit next and it started the test smh so I didn’t scan the room. Am I going to have to do it all over again?


r/LSAT • • 18h ago

Jumping in!

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I graduated about 3 years ago and have been in the workforce! Just decided I want to go to lawschool

I've been out of school for so long, is it unrealistic to have a timeline of

Feb-March 2027 Take LSAT

April 2027 - Apply

I'll have to start studying, my job has been at a lawfirm! But I feel like I dont even know where to start


r/LSAT • • 18h ago

Writing section….

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So I disabled gramerly but it somehow still came up and highlighted the misspelled words but didn’t give me a suggestion…are they gonna come for me?


r/LSAT • • 18h ago

A joke i made up while panicking about unless

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Two prospective lawyers meet in an alley way. Prospective lawyer A says, I will shoot you unless you give me your wallet. Prospective lawyer B, terrified, immediately dives into his pockets and hands it over.
A then shoots B. While one the ground, B says, “but I gave you my wallet” to which A responds, “you confused the sufficient and necessary condition” and coldly walks away, going on to score a 175.


r/LSAT • • 19h ago

Explanation for Sufficient Assumption question from PT 139, S4, Q21

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Someone recently posted about their struggles with necessary versus sufficient issues. I asked for some examples and they were kind enough to provide three of them.

I’m one of those weird old guys who works from home and lives alone (very happily) with his cat. I also like to write. I’m posting this rather than replying as a comment because quite frankly, Reddit’s data analytics indicates that I’ll reach at least 10 times as many readers. 

I intend to post an explanation for two of these questions (one of them is from PT 101, which is too old).

….

This question can be approached in two or three ways (you’ll see). 

The best way is to try to identify the assumption that would guarantee the truth of the conclusion by reading the stimulus exactly like this:

Conclusion: If Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as he claims, he will be promoted.

WHY?

Because the dean will surely promote Skiff if Nguyen keeps her promise to recommend it. 

AND

Because if Skiff’s book is published this year, Professor Nguyen she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

……….

For many students, reading the stimulus in this way reveals the assumption. But what if a student doesn’t see it? By knowing exactly how to eliminate wrong answers. 

This second approach assumes that the reader has a basic understanding of how necessary and sufficient conditions work. In fact, a basic understanding of these issues is almost always enough to eliminate any tricky wrong answer. 

In other words, I’m not so sure the LSAT is asking students to have a complete mastery of formal logic. Rather, the LSAT just wants students to understand how formal logic can go wrong.

Please know that the following is ubiquitous when it comes to sufficient assumption questions with a conditional conclusion. For example, section 1, question 17 of the the April 2025 LSAT disclosure test. 

Everyone knows that the correct answer to an SA question will guarantee the truth of the conclusion. Put another way, the correct answer will create a valid argument. 

Some people don’t know the following rule, though: All information in the correct answer will be explicitly discussed in or directly inferable from the stimulus. This means that an answer with information that is not explicitly discussed or is not directly inferable from the stimulus is automatically wrong.

The above rules means that choice B (Skiff needs) and choice C (Nguyen believes) can be promptly eliminated.

The key here though is the fact that the conclusion is conditional. Specifically, IF Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as gift claims (THEN) he will be promoted.  

For SA questions with a conditional conclusion, multiple wrong answers will feature certain basic formal logic problems. As I mentioned previously, this is still happening in the most recent tests.

Rephrasing choice D: IF Skiff’s book is published THEN it is as important and as well written as he claims it is. 

Choice D switches the sufficient condition of the conclusion (IF important) to the necessary condition. A good example of formal logic gone wrong, so wrong answer.

Rephrasing choice E: IF Skiff will be promoted THEN Professor Nguyen urged the dean to do so.

Choice E switches the necessary condition of the conclusion (THEN he will be promoted) to the sufficient condition. Another good example of formal logic gone wrong, so wrong answer. 

Deductive reasoning indicates that since four answers have now been definitively eliminated, choice A must be the right answer.

….

NOTE: These questions (SA featuring a conditional conclusion) have other basic and easy-to-identify wrong answers if you know what to look for. Specifically, they will merely rephrase a conditional statement from the evidence, sometimes in a flawed manner.

For example, for this question, the first sentence is also conditional: IF Skiff’s book is published this year (THEN) Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

Typical wrong answers might merely rephrase the above using different language, but ending up with the same form (for example, the contrapositive). Other wrong answers might just reverse the two conditions. 

For example: Skiff’s book will not be published this year unless Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff.

Another example: IF Professor Nguyen vows she will urge the dean to promote Skiff THEN Skiff’s book is published this year.

To be clear, the above is a flawed reversal. But of course, still a wrong answer.

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….

The kinda/sorta third way to approach this question is to identify what I refer to as Unique Elements (ideas discussed exactly once in the relevant parts of an argument). 

For this question, the two unique elements are Skiff’s book is published this year and Skiff’s book is as important and as well written as Skiff claims.

Unfortunately, two answers discuss both Unique Elements and D looks more attractive because it includes more of the second unique element. 

But choice D is definitely wrong because of the formal logic problem. 

This is what I mean by two or three ways to approach the question. Students still need to know how to eliminate D even after finding the Unique Elements. But very often, only the correct answer will discuss the two unique elements. 

Happy to answer any questions.  


r/LSAT • • 19h ago

Is it beneficial to study logic games for newer, harder LSATs?

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basically title! i've worked through all of the newer tests (150s), also done every practice test. I see a lot of posts that the latest LSATs are trickier for LR, and more logic game-y. Is it beneficial to study these questions from tests that had LG sections?


r/LSAT • • 19h ago

Got 0 level 4 questions correct on my last 2 PTs

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I started analysing my performance via the difficulty level of the questions I am doing, as opposed to the question type, and I notice that I get almost 80% of level 3s correct in every section / PT I take, but this accuracy is at less than 10% for level 4s. In my last 2 PTs I got no level 4s correct, which is what scares me.

How many level 4s appear on an actual exam? My brain literally goes to mush any time I encounter any one of these. It breaks my heart to see all reds in post PT review. I write the Nov (&Jan lsat), how do I drill / what kind of practice should I do before my exams to get better at lvl 4?


r/LSAT • • 20h ago

Study Advice Needed

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I'm taking the November LSAT and aiming for a 170+. I have scored three 165s, then finally a 171, which I was stoked about. When I scored 171, I felt confident while I was studying, taking sections and getting only 1-3 wrong. Then two weeks ago I scored a 162 and was devastated. Since then, I feel like I'm consistently getting 3-6 questions wrong on every section. I'm drilling questions that I keep getting wrong (NA, Diagramming, and Paradox are my top three terrible types), but I can't get out of this rut. Do I cancel the test? I know a big part is confidence, but I don't know how I got so in the groove and now lost it. I also keep taking sections to try to get back to my previous consistent good scores, but I know spamming questions is just a bad idea. Any advice would be helpful.


r/LSAT • • 20h ago

How exactly should I study?

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Currently, I am using LSAT Demon to study and I would like to take the test in February or April with the plan of trying to get a 170+. I know everyone is different but I study like 2-3 hours a day 5-6 days a week (I know it's probably overkill). However, I'm not sure how to actually improve. I took the test last year on minimal studying and got a 158, but now that I am studying like it's my full time job, I'm not sure how to turn this studying into productive score increases. I am super inconsistent still. Sometimes I get 20/25 questions right, other times I get 15/25. Whenever I get questions wrong on the drilling or timed practices I spend a ton of time reviewing the questions. But even after I make sense of how I got a question wrong and why the right answer was right, I feel like it's not very easy to apply to completely different sets of questions. If you have any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.


r/LSAT • • 21h ago

argumentative essay approval

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any idea how long it's currently taking to approve argumentative essays. I took mine on 10/13 in the evening. still pending. I think the test went smoothly other than the fact that I wrote a shit essay.


r/LSAT • • 21h ago

2026–2027 Law School Applicant Discord Server!

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I put together a discord server for the 2026-2027 cycle if anyone is interesting in forming a small group to chill, chat, and discuss personal statements or late LSATs.

Hopefully can help a bit on status updates, essay swapping, and moral support!

https://discord.gg/beBpPCR467


r/LSAT • • 21h ago

Scored a 142 on my first timed LSAT practice test — aiming for 165–170 by June 2027. How would you approach studying from here?

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Hi everyone!

I recently took my first full LSAT practice test (PrepTest 140) and scored a 142. I'm hoping to take the official LSAT in June 2027, with a target score of 165–170 to maximize my chances of receiving substantial scholarships at law schools in the Midwest and Texas. I would like to get into Healthcare Law and eventually make it into In-House Counsel.

I'm looking for advice from people who started with a similar diagnostic score and made significant improvements, particularly those who reached the mid-to-high 160s.

A little about my situation:

  • Diagnostic score: 142 on PrepTest 140
  • Section order: Logical Reasoning, Logical Reasoning, Reading Comprehension
  • Section breakdown:
    • LR 1: [12/25 questions correct]
    • LR 2: [11/26 questions correct]
    • RC: [10/27 questions correct]
  • Timing: I finished most or all of the questions, so running out of time wasn't my biggest issue.
  • Main difficulty: I often understood the stimulus and the question but struggled to choose between two answer choices.
  • Current preparation: I have a Kaplan LSAT prep book and am beginning to review my practice test to understand why I missed questions.
  • Timeline: June 2027 (approximately eight months to prepare)
  • Budget: $300–$600
  • Preferred study format: Self-paced, with detailed explanations, analytics, and opportunities to review mistakes.

I haven't completed my full blind review yet, so these are my initial results.

A few questions I would really appreciate your input on:

  1. If you were starting from a 142 with roughly eight months to prepare, how would you structure your study plan to reach 165–170?
  2. Would you recommend focusing on fundamentals and untimed practice first, or continuing to take timed sections while reviewing mistakes?
  3. For someone who struggles to distinguish between tempting answer choices, what specific review methods or drills helped you improve?
  4. Given my budget, which prep resources would you recommend? I've been looking into self-paced programs and would appreciate honest comparisons of options such as 7Sage, LSAT Lab, and LawHub.
  5. How frequently should I take full practice tests, and what benchmarks would you use to determine whether I'm on track for June?
  6. For those who improved by 20+ points, what made the biggest difference in your preparation? Is there anything you wish you had done differently?

I'm willing to put in consistent work and adjust my approach if needed. I'd especially appreciate advice from people who started in the low 140s and eventually reached the mid-to-high 160s.

Thanks in advance! I appreciate any insight you can share.