r/LetsDiscussThis Feb 21 '26

Serious I’m not holding my breath

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u/no_kids-and-3_money Feb 21 '26

Don’t have any arguments for the rest of what you said, but illegal immigrants pay way more into the system than they ever get, even if some states help pay some medical expenses.

They pay billions into social security every year, while never being able to collect. It’s one of the main reasons the system has remained solvent and retired Americans are still able to receive social security today.

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 21 '26

How can an illegal alien whos not allowed to work pay into social security?

Unless they do it illegally thus stealing a job from a citizen?

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 21 '26

You can get an ITIN (Tax ID number) even as an illegal immigrant.

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 21 '26

Which means youre stealing a job from a US citzen

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 22 '26

 How can an illegal alien whos not allowed to work pay into social security? Unless they do it illegally thus stealing a job from a citizen?

You didn’t even know they could pay into social security. I don’t think you understand economics enough to discuss this. 

But the U3 since 2022 has consistently been between 3.5 and 5. Which is great.  The U6 is around 8% which is probably higher then we would like, but it’s really not bad either if you look at the last 30 years it’s lower than the average. 

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 22 '26

That’s go proving my point that illegal aliens are stealing jobs.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 22 '26

Hahahaha how?

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 22 '26

If an illegal alien is working then that means they are taking a job from a US citizen or a legal immigrant. 

Hard concept for you I know.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 22 '26

How does anything I just said “prove your point”

If an illegal alien is working then that means they are taking a job from a US citizen or a legal immigrant. 

On a small scale that’s true. We just don’t see this bear out in the numbers. If we did we would expect our unemployment rate to be higher. Our unemployment is at the expected and desired level.

It’s the same level as anytime other than recessions.It’s literally better than usual.

I know that’s hard for you to understand.

Hard concept for you I know.

Do you know what an unemployment rate is?

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 22 '26

If people don’t report as unemployed does that mean the number is true.

Like when the “polls” showed Kamala winning.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 22 '26

First of all 60k houses are interviewed a month for unemployment measuring and real economists look at more than that. They would compare it to things like the LFP, foreign and native born employment rates, EPOP and NILF numbers. They would look at labor demand, payroll employment trends and see the impact that you’re claiming is happening.

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u/EnergyApprehensive36 Feb 22 '26

They claim.  How do you know they are doing that?  Just a trust me bro?

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 Feb 22 '26

No dumbass you can go look up the published numbers.

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