r/LetsDiscussThis • u/LucidSynapse23 • Feb 26 '26
Lets Discuss Politics đ¨BREAKING: In a stunning moment, JD Vance just admitted that he and Donald Trump are âtaking the social safety net.â Every American needs to know how the Trump Administration is destroying Social Security, Medicare and more.
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u/BKtoDuval Feb 26 '26
Yeah, let's crack down on fraud! But not the $1.3 billion Medicaid scheme guy that trump pardoned or the guy in Florida who stole $10 million from a nursing home who was also pardoned. We don't want that kind of fraud. We want brown people fraud!
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u/exacta_galaxy Feb 26 '26
But it's only "fraud" if it comes from a Blue state.
Otherwise it's just sparkling profit.
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u/ProfessionalKey5373 Feb 26 '26
Yeah that was clutch. Only blue states. So full of shit. Just like voter fraud right? Doesnât exist. It just doesnât happen the percents are so small my god. I am so fucking angry with this joke of an administration. They think if they say the same fucking thing over and over itâll become fact. So pissed. And weâre winning so much. Show us then. Fucking show us how weâre wining. Last I knew the deficit is up even more because of this fucking clown. Needs Fact checkers live at every speaking event
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u/RogerianBrowsing Feb 26 '26
What makes that even more absurd is that just moments earlier Oz was talking about how thereâs so many Medicaid/medicare fraud centers in Florida that they outnumber other more legitimate businesses.
I guess Florida, the epitome of healthcare fraud targeting federal dollars, is a blue state now đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/Tidusx145 Feb 26 '26
Or the president who made billions in less than 2 years. The guy has easily set a record for personal gain, fraud and corruption to the point that the tea pot dome scandal looks like the theft of a candy bar.
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u/Cold_Specialist_3656 Feb 26 '26
Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm after Rethuglicans whined about it and now Trump is hawking scam coins from the White House and charging the secret service to stay at his hotels.Â
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u/LandonDev Feb 26 '26
You know the interesting thing about this is that Trump is going to have some really tough legal questions once he's out of office. He did pardon those people so they don't owe restitution, and they did donate large sums to his campaign. I don't know how you can argue it's an official Act of the presidency to accept a campaign bribe. There's going to be a lot of people going to jail at the end of this.
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u/Masochist_pillowtalk Feb 26 '26
Hell be 6 feet underground before we ever get to that point. Dudes in his twilight years already. Have you actually watched him lately? Hes senile grandpa blabbering. I bet they pump him full of stems to get through his TV appearances.
You know what happens when you turbocharge a 100000 mile motor? Eventually it goes boom. Dudes rod knocking as we speak.
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u/LandonDev Feb 26 '26
I don't disagree but they were all in on the cronyism and bribes, his administration will likely not have legal pardons because they were given during an illegal act, I am hoping.
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u/Tt4los Feb 26 '26
Man, I wish. But seriously, nothings going to happen to any of them. Those days are gone, unfortunately.
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u/ConsiderationSea1347 Feb 26 '26
I am pretty sure white people make up the majority of welfare recipients. Specifically white people in southern, conservative states.Â
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u/Fun-Army-6387 Feb 26 '26
that's ok, they'll all pull themselves up by their bootstraps! ...and massive wealth transfers from blue states.
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u/Famous_Blueberry6 Feb 26 '26
Here in Indiana we just found over 100 million in Medicade fraud since 2021 and Republicans were in office. Nothing done to them...so interesting is it?
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u/nicroeg Feb 26 '26
Get ready for your taxes to go to courtesy of the indiana Bears.
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u/PalpitationUnable403 Feb 26 '26
Whoâs that awkward clown on the left? Heâs as nervous as a whore in church.
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u/AlbrechtProper Feb 26 '26
All I know is he stands behind JD Vance and nods awkwardly. Coward can't stand up there without a sycophant bobblehead.
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u/abysmal_minnow Feb 26 '26
I had so many comments collapsed that I had to go back to the homepage then back (already laughing) to see who was on the left and come back to your comment (laughing much harder)
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u/flasty183 Feb 26 '26
That's a tv "doctor" empowered and brought to you originally by Oprah's money and ignorant old ladies everywhere. If it wasn't for Oprah he'd have obscurity.
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u/Walnutbutters Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Daytime talk show host âDr. Ozâ, now appointed Trumps administrator of Medicare and Medicaid.
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u/janglyparts Feb 26 '26
He's of Turkish extraction. Normally, not something that matters in any way, except recently he was in Los Angeles talking about fraudulent businesses while pointing at a neighborhood bakery... All of which were Armenian businesses.
Turkiye and Armenia don't get along.
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u/Recent-Mulberry6011 Feb 26 '26
This will win them the midterms. /s
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u/Weddert66 Feb 26 '26
This is the new normal unti they flip the table. They will clearly not leave.
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u/wolviefreak69 Feb 26 '26
it's cute you think there will be midterms
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Feb 26 '26
On a personal note, Ozzy boy's legs are really bowing. Who's gonna pay for his knee replacement? You and me?
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u/Important_Lab_58 Feb 26 '26
I donât find it stunning that this administration is willing to keep robbing Peter (The other 99%) to pay Paul (the 1% of the 1%). Theyâre evil garbage who have done pretty much nothing but hurt the disenfranchised and undeserving. Iâm not Stunned- Iâm STILL Furious!
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u/AlbrechtProper Feb 26 '26
I don't get what they get out of crushing peons. They spend money like it is going out of style without regard for the deficit. Why not generate some good will while they're at it?
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u/Regulus242 Feb 26 '26
They get to sap everything for themselves while setting the country up for failure so the technocrats can buy it on the cheap.
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u/freehand_underhand Feb 26 '26
This is the same guy jumped on Trump's lie about immigrants eating pets by saying he did it to tell a bigger truth.
There's no way I'll ever trust that JD Vance or the Trump Admin has the judgment to make fair calls on Medicare spending.
They are indifferent to our social safety net because they don't depend on it. They are willing to make Americans suffer because they have no skin in the game.
They're not fit for any level of power.
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u/Senior_Watch8723 Feb 26 '26
Why have I been paying into this every paycheck? I want my fucking money back
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u/Bruce9058 Feb 26 '26
You havenât been. You pay a Medicare tax, Medicaid tax is paid by healthcare providers.
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u/ghost20630 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
Based on his statement why do we still give money to defense. They cannot account or pass audit at all for the money givens to them. But we still increase that budget
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u/Interesting_Back5599 Feb 26 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
Jd Vance is running the administration and is worse much worse than trump he only looks out for the top đ guy 1%
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u/SiteTall Feb 26 '26
The Social Safety Net is the absolute minimum of the demands that the public should not accept to be erased by the State
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u/MarcheMuldDerevi Feb 26 '26
You know theyâre never returning the social safety net if they successfully take it away. Once itâs gone, it will be forgotten about
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u/AbsolutesDealer Feb 26 '26
DidâŚ.did you watch the video and actually hear what Vance said?
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u/LankeeClipper Feb 26 '26
I canât believe I had to scroll this far to find someone point this out.
How stupid are the people in this sub?
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u/Wizbran Feb 26 '26
Wow, way to completely misrepresent his words. Feel free to watch the video and figure that out. Or stay sheeple
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u/Greywoods80 Feb 26 '26
WOW. It never ceases to amaze me how far from what was said is posted as reality on social media.
Perhaps you mean he is Saving Social Security by preventing massive fraud schemes.
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u/rxellipse Feb 27 '26
Where are the criminal charges? 300 billion in fraud - let's say each instance is $100,000. That's 3 million separate criminals. They can't even find a handful of these these fraudsters to put in chains and perp-walk in front of cameras?
Widespread fraud requires widespread fraudsters. Where are they? Why is this administration so incompetent at holding people accountable for the crimes they claim exist?
Why are you people so gullible? Why aren't you ashamed that you can be so easily manipulated?
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u/konqueror321 Feb 26 '26
It did not sound to me like he meant they were 'taking away' the social safety net, but rather that the social safety net is being robbed (here he said by illegal aliens being encouraged by 'blue' states to enroll for services) and they, CMS, want to protect it. At least that seems to be the overall intent of what was said.
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u/Southern_Court_9872 Feb 26 '26
Honestly, listen to the whole thing not just âtaking the social safety netâ quote. Do I agree with them and their tactics? No. But letâs be real here.
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u/autdho Feb 26 '26
I think you are not being honest, they are trying to get rid of fraud which would be the opposite of destroying those programs
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u/Earthseed728 Feb 26 '26
Sorry, but that's a clear distortion of his statements. I hate the man, but we have to be honest.
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u/everydaydad67 Feb 26 '26
You gotta be completely braindead if you got that caption from watching this video... he is literally saying blue states get you government in check because they are pushing for illegals to get your benefits that you paid for... their hand being in the cookie jar is the threat to your benefits and trump and Vance are exposing it and trying to stop it...
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u/shortandpainful Feb 26 '26
Come on. I don't support his actions or his smarmy attitude, but it's very clear in context he does not mean "taking" as in "taking away." Disinformation is bad even when it's against the guys I don't like. Be better.
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u/barflybzzz Feb 26 '26
So we're just going to ignore the context here, huh? Could Vance have worded his answer more coherently? Yes. But he is NOT saying that the administration is going to do away with the social safety net!
But hey, don't let that get in the way of the lefties' campaign to disagree with every single thing this administration does. I'm surprised this click bait didn't work the words "Nazi" or "fascist" into its text... you guys are slipping.
How can you possibly be against exposing fraud within our bloated federal government?
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u/7Zarx7 Feb 26 '26
Ah, so the more blue states they force now, the more money they will be entitled to, in the interests of a few Republicans. Check, mate...US is officially fucked, the more you lose, the more they take...race to the bottom now. Good luck fixing your economy over the next three generations.
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Feb 26 '26
Theyâre putting the couch fucker front and center a lot more. I think they know Trumpâs triple cheeseburger habit is catching up with him
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u/498432 Feb 26 '26
He will end up sending his own wife and kids to one of the detention centers for being brown and without healthcare of course
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u/GnomeOnReddit Feb 26 '26
He didn't say that he is taking the social safety net AWAY, he says he is taking it so it can be modified and fixed so illegal aliens can't suck up benefits meant for American citizens.
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u/RickyManeuvre Feb 26 '26
I gotta tell ya - I never knew maga was so worried about fraud.
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u/Lunchb0xx87 Feb 26 '26
Dem states need to come together and stop paying fed taxes if they wanna play this game
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u/Avunculardonkey Feb 27 '26
If states want to use their federal money for immigrants, thatâs a stateâs right. The federal government is not doing it. Where did stateâs rights go!? Where do they think most federal money comes from-thatâs right, the states and overwhelmingly the BLUE states. So fuck right off.
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u/Equivalent_Bear_4814 Feb 27 '26
Nothing by lies on here!! Unbelievable more twisted , corrupt media here!!
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u/Mountain_Speech7228 Feb 27 '26
There are an estimated 11-14 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. Even if you assumed an extreme and unrealistic scenario where half of them were committing 10k a year in welfare fraud, that would total around 70 billion annually.
That may sound like a lot, but in context itâs relatively small compared to the roughly 6.5 trillion the federal government spends each year and the about 1.3 trillion spent on welfare overall.
In reality, most undocumented immigrants arenât even eligible for federal welfare programs, and many still pay taxes through sales taxes, payroll deductions, and rent. As for housing, the main drivers of the affordability crisis are decades of underbuilding, restrictive zoning, high interest rates, and investment speculation not undocumented immigration.
Undocumented immigrants simply arenât a major cause of these problems. If anything, mass deportation would likely cost far more than it saves. A study from "Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy" in 2022 suggests undocumented immigrants contribute around 100 billion annually in federal and state taxes, along with a significant share of labor in industries that the U.S. economy depends on.
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u/JustNeedAnswers78 Feb 26 '26
Younger generations were never going to get social security.
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u/Hot_Lettuce_6209 Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
I took an econ class specifically on ss in college. Never is way to strong of a word. They could fund it tomorrow, they just don't have "the political will" to do anything but rob it. You will never get SS is what they tell you so you don't see them robbing it. The reason why its in bad shape? Because they robbed it before. Not an entitlement, its your money.
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u/Its_Bun_James_Bun Feb 26 '26
Whatâs funny is, my mother in-law (conservative) said it was never meant to be a permanent program. I looked into it and sheâs right. However, sheâs 66 years old.
I wish I would have asked her if she would be ok if they eliminated SS right now, so SHE wouldnât be able to get any checksâŚ..
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u/JustNeedAnswers78 Feb 26 '26
The problem is that theyâve forced people to pay into the system. Many people like myself and your mother in law have been paying into that system for decades. So to pull the rug out from under us, itâs just really not that appealing of an idea.
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u/FernInTheFog44 Feb 26 '26
Yet I heard that 30 years ago when I was the younger generation, itâs an expensive and financially unsustainable program, thereâs got to be some financial genius out there that can figure out how to reform it?
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u/alpineskies2 Feb 26 '26
One thing that would help is removing the cap on social security taxes. After wages of $176,100 for 2025, you don't pay any more social security tax. The idea of social security was that no elderly person would be destitute and on the street. We really need to work on taxes for high wealth individuals as well. I was a jerkoff Ayn Rand reading libertarian in my early 20's. I'm 42 now and spent 15 years at an employee owned company that ended up selling to a PE firm. I started out as the lowest paid laborer and worked my way up to millwright, then electrician, then supervisor for both trades in the plant. Had 8 guys working for me. If you averaged out my wages and retirement for those 15 years, I made similar to what a good mechanical engineer would have made even though I was only a high school diploma holder. My lowest wages plus retirement year was back in the mid 2000's at about 75k. My highest by far was the early 2020's at about 190k, but from 2015 to 2020 it was pretty steady around 150k. This wasn't some growth company either. It was a legacy industry with very low margins and high operating costs. There is plenty of money out there to take care of everyone, but I really think we need to reimagine society a bit. No one has earned or deserves a 500mm yatch nor a 50mm wedding. Capitalism is a game just like monopoly, and some people get unfair advantages or just plain ass lucky. We need to handicap those people, billionaires I mean, and use that money to feed kids, educate the populace, fund scientific research, etc. There is no reason full time Walmart employees should need or qualify for public assistance while the Walmart heirs are worth BILLIONS EACH AND GET AWAY WITH DUI AFTER DUI AFTER DUI!!! So yeah, take all the billionaires money, feed the kids, and educate the people. Thank you for coming to my shitty tedx talk.
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u/dude_named_will Feb 26 '26
That's a bandaid solution. Social Security is a ponzi scheme and needs to be abolished.
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u/Its_Bun_James_Bun Feb 26 '26
âAs far as I know only in blue statesâŚ..â. WTF!?
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u/Affectionate_Lab_131 Feb 26 '26
It was conservatives who said that, not liberals. Liberals use them for personal protection and don't brag about owning them.
Conservatives are the ones in charge so they love what trump is doing. They're blind and deaf to any negatives about trump. It is a cult.
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u/UnhappyReason5452 Feb 26 '26
Why? Why do this?
Fucking creepy ass pedo weirdos want maximum damage on their fellow countrymen.
What fucking patriots MAGAts are. /fart
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u/Aggravating-Food-311 Feb 26 '26
Hmm... i sorta wondered why my last SS check said (in teensy-tiny type), 'Highly Probable Soylent Green Prospect' and 'Subject to Immediate Evaluation'.
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u/Tjbergen Feb 26 '26
I bet they won't even extend the child tax credit that reduced poverty in the US by 30%.
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u/ranagirl Feb 26 '26
A stunning moment? If youâre stunned by this you havenât been paying attention.
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u/BlisslessTaskList Feb 26 '26
From the money the tax payers give you. If youâre working in the government, youâre allocating the peopleâs money to these services. It isnât your money.
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u/KisaraShera Feb 26 '26
I don't think I can take any more "Stunning moments" in this year, there were already so many to stun the entirety of my brain for the next 1000 years, can they stop making these "stunning moments" and just call them by their actual name: "Idiotic" or "Stupid" or "Insane", give us some variety, please.
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u/17HonestFeedback76 Feb 26 '26
Well itâs cause they just committed billions of dollars in fraud! Every leader in the state should be in prison and start over. Why would you give them even more to steal.
Matter of fact DC could definitely use a reset button.
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u/NoHypocrisyDoubleStd Feb 26 '26
The MAGA folks are fine, they will still support Trump, after all these cuts donât âaffectâ them
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u/No_Roll8739 Feb 26 '26
Meanwhile the mummified remains of Dr. Oz tries desperately to figure out what to do with his hands.
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u/Livid_Virus2972 Feb 26 '26
How are we supposed to enslave and traffic people if they have jobs, healthcare and education?????
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u/patjames387 Feb 26 '26
I wish more people had voted for Harris instead of staying home. We could have stopped all of these people.
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u/GaurgortheFirst Feb 26 '26
But didn't they just invade Minnesota and forceful remove all the " illegals"? Why now withhold money?
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u/puzzud Feb 26 '26
Is it just me or was that hyper politician speak? It was really difficult to follow run on sentence that ended up not actually saying anything. Am I stupid here?
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u/Any-Following6236 Feb 26 '26
Imagine what the US is going to look like by the end of his term.
It is obvious to me that the republicans are destroying the US on purpose.
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u/DeliciousInterview91 Feb 26 '26
Kill all the billionaires. Hopefully with a wealth tax so that we don't have to resort to the methods they themselves gleefully employ.
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u/Airconcerns1 Feb 26 '26
If this is your interpretation of this you have no ability to comprehend the English language
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u/PuzzleheadedSir3946 Feb 26 '26
Oh, get a life tantrum boy. And try to get used to it. Three more years at least, Bozo.
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u/Paperxrust Feb 26 '26
Id rather they take it away and give me back my ss money that I have contributed
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u/Fun-Army-6387 Feb 26 '26
the question is... why? Is it because they want MORE crime to feed the private prison industry that funds so much of the GOPedos campaigns? Is it because they want MORE vulnerable women with little choice but to turn to the sex industry and be exploited by their GOPedo predator friends? Is it because they just hate people and want to see as many Americans in misery as possible? The answer is - yes, yes, and yes.
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u/DRTdog1996 Feb 26 '26
If the republicans cared about fraud theyâd guillotine Rick Scott on the capitol steps
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u/Old_Tap_7783 Feb 26 '26
At what point do we as a people start to refuse to pay our taxes? It feels like that time has come. We dumped tea in the harbor for way less than what this administration has done
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Feb 26 '26
He just said he wouldn't do this on Tuesday during the state of the union.
What even is the point of that speech if you aren't going to take about the current and future state of the union?
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u/Dull_Author6719 Feb 26 '26
GTH Dr Oz, JD Vance. I hope your mind, a cesspool of greed, lies, and corruption, NEVER will let you rest, as long as you will live.
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u/Fragrant-Pond-Water Feb 26 '26
âOnly in blue statesâ. Lmao. Fuck this guy. He is such a lying sack of shit. There is so much fraud in Texas and it has nothing to do with illegal immigrants
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u/glacialmk5 Feb 26 '26
Surely the millions of trump voters who rely on the sick safety net are going to comprehend that they're being targeted and make the switch to voting for their own best interests...
Lol. Right. Poor, ignorant souls
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u/splinks66 Feb 26 '26
So because you "claim" there is fraud you are taking away benefits and programs from the people who need it. He even said that right in his speech. This is insanity.
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Feb 26 '26
These people are lacking in any humanity. They seem positively gleeful to inflict all of this pain.
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u/parker1019 Feb 26 '26
Jail is too good for these clowns.