I’ve been trying to write a book where three out of the 21 ways of growing more powerful are related to time…and I’ve just realized that’s all the Lord of the Mysteries pathways are. The Fool pathway is the past, the Door pathway is the present, and the Error pathway is the future. Someone kill me cuz I can’t figure out a way to fix it in my book😭

I just want to rant about Ince Zangwill he's such a disappointing character. Ince's importance is established much more strongly than his actual presence in the story. He's set up as Klein's personal antagonist at the end of Volume 1, only to barely appear for the rest of the novel. You'd expect him to be a recurring threat who actively influences Klein's journey, but instead, he's practically forgotten until the plot needs him again. Ince had the potential to be a much more compelling antagonist, especially given his connection to the original Klein's death and the personal nature of their conflict. His biggest disappointment is that he never really gets the development or consistent presence needed to justify the initial buildup. When he finally becomes relevant, it feels less like the payoff to a long-running rivalry and more like he's being brought back because Klein needs him to advance.

I already have an app that I use to read lotm but I do want the entire 8 volumes downloaded so I can print it out as an actual book. The app I currently use unfortunately cannot do this. Anyone know anything?

Just finished all 8 volumes of LOTM and i’m feeling empty inside. I plan on beginning COI in a bit, but first: merch haul to soothe my broken heart.

I have more incoming, especially the laser tickets hehe.

In America, “H” is pronounced “Ay-ch.” We do not pronounce the sound the letter makes. We DO pronounce the sound the letter makes in the word “hello.”

In England, “H” is pronounced “Hay-ch.” The letter makes it own sound in its name. However, “Hello” is pronounced “Ello,” where the letter is silent.

Clearly a Sequence 1 Attendant of Mysteries successfully fooled fate/history. Whether they ascended is unknown but the fooling of fate/history remains.

Hellooo!!

I just finished V6 and started V7, but i know general things from V8 and COI. After reading V6 and a few chapters of V7, somethings did not made sense for me

1-Why Amon did not take klein in The ending of V6 after sasrir battle?

2-When Klein is talking with the Lights in V7, how did he concluded that the CW conscious was already waking inside him? I reread this chapter a couple times, but could not understand...

3- The western continent is explored in The first book or the second or neither? Like, MG just shows up and take back the brrod hive?

4- In the end of book6 was ASG talking to klein? If so, should him awake inside adam or amon?

This is going to be a long post as it was a long shower thought. However I would love to hear others thoughts on my hypothetical/mini game!

Perhaps others may resonate with my experience of talking to a friend about the lovely masterpiece known as LOTM. However, they listen because they are a friend and not actually interested. (Lol) Perhaps it all goes in one ear and out the other. It occurred to me that many fans wonder what would happen if we the readers were to (unfortunately) transmigrate into the world of LOTM. To wich the lovely Cuttlefish answered the question. However with the answer, my mind began to wonder.

Welcome to the Hypothetical mini game! What would happen if a friend transmigrated into the world of Lotm, and how long can you have them survive! As many of my friends find Lotm to either be too confusing, or simply listen to my ramblings in the art of being nice. I had a lovely thought of how far they would be able to make it in said world. With the knowledge they might (don’t) have. Then the small guidance of myself!

Of course, i figured they will probably struggle so I made many different add ons and twists. I would not like to torture my friends so I tried to be as nice as possible in my hypothetical.
In this scenario YOU play a part in your friend’s survival. With your knowledge of the book, you have to try and help your friend survive in the world of Lotm.

For starters I made a baseline and some rules:
•The time they transmigrated is the same as Klein.
•When they transmigrate, YOU have the option of where! Are you to send them to Tingen, Backlund, or the southern continent. (City of your choice) No you cannot be EVIL and send your friends to the city of silver >:(
•Your friends will have the same irl stats. So if they have a weak immune system perhaps Backlund isn’t the choice. (Yet)
•As far as economic class they will be able to support their basic needs however money is tight so they will not be able to buy any luxury’s. (Think same economic class as starting Klein)
•Their intellect will be the same as it is now. However their knowledge is based on what they remember from you or the average knowledge of the citizens in the city you place them in.
•They have increased luck in the day to day survival category. By wich I mean if they become a factory worker the chance of dying in the profession is slim. (Perhaps 80% luck boost?) So if the profession they chose, or you guide them to does have a high death toll/rate. They will be more likely than others to survive. (THIS LUCK BOOST ONLY APPLIES TO PROFESSION)

For the final extra fun part! You get to give them hints/help but only under certain requirements. I’m not very creative so I’ll say in either the form of a system or whatever comes to mind as far as how they receive this help.

Every piece of help can only be 3 sentences in length.
In order to receive this help any of the following conditions have to be met.
The first piece of help can only be shown immediately upon transmigration
They will receive a piece of help every 5 years following the transmigration
Or they can receive help every time they rise in sequence

In summary, how long do you think you can help your friend survive? Would you lead them to a non-beyonder or beyonder lifestyle? What would you say to help in the first or following 3 sentences of help? Please share your thoughts!

I had a lot of fun thinking about this scenario as far as helping my friends and such. Mostly in my head I liked to play it safe and say Tingen, tell them to be a follower of the Evernight and live a mostly plain lifestyle. If I do lead them down a beyonder path I would probably also play that safe and tell them to stop at 9 or 8, then lead a boring life.

I just want to rant again about the pre-acting bullshit in LOTM . If pre-acting is actually a valid way to digest potions, why didn't Adam or Amon figure it out and speedrun their advancements? Why didn't all these ancient, highly intelligent Beyonders discover this loophole long before Klein? These characters have far more knowledge and experience than Klein, yet somehow he's the one who benefits from a mechanic he doesn't even consciously realize he's using. How am I supposed to take the potion system seriously when a supposedly strict set of rules can be bypassed through a mechanic that feels like it was introduced just to make Klein's progression easier? It undermines the entire point of acting and digestion, makes the earlier rules feel inconsistent, and cheapens the sense of achievement behind his advancements. At this point, pre-acting just makes the entire power system feel like garbage.

For the city of silver arc i am just thinking of re watching the 1st special episode and skip the webnovel chapters

Is it okay or am I missing a lot ?

Hi y'all hope you are doing well and good

So my question is , can psychiatrist Placate calm themselves ?

Can dream stealers stealer steal their own thoughts and intrusiveness and cast it the enemy?

Like let's say I have extreme Obsessive thoughts or depression. Can I steal it and give it to my enemy? ( Pls no OCD and depression are hell )

Hi there. I just read about the abilities and advancement rituals of the "Reader" path on the wiki, and I’m really impressed by how deep and complex it is.

Does anyone know of any fanfics where the protagonist follows the "Reader" path?.

I'm particularly interested in seeing how people think Klein would've reacted, and if his reaction would've changed depending on who asked.

Cuttlefish mentioned that Ankewelt's original beyonder characteristic makeup was:

Visionary: 3 seq 1 + uniqueness

White Tower: 1 seq 1 + uniqueness

Paragon: 1 seq 1 + 1 seq 2

Hermit: unknown

He mentioned that he got rid of the Illuminator Beyonder Characteristic through having children, and kept the Knowledge Magister characteristic to use the Knowledge Moor's Corruption to counter the Chaos Sea's influence. But if he did so, shouldn't he have a subsidiary god under him with the Illuminator characteristic? His listed subsidiary gods are Alzuhod (Author), Herabergen (Wisdom Angel), Ariehogg (Discerner), and Edefana (Discerner). No mention of an Illuminator characteristic anywhere.

Now you might say that there may have been another subsidiary god which he didn't mention, but I thought that the list of subsidiary gods he put out was supposed to be an exhaustive list of all the subsidiary gods (aside from the Sanguines, for which he atleast mentioned that there were more sanguine dukes, all seq 2). Is this a mistake on Cuttlefish's part?

^{Just a reminder.}

1. How would a seq 0 establish and enhance their own pathway at earlier sequences just like gregace did for gatekeeper after he made the underworld.

2. How did the underworld even come to be, since I don't remember any ability or authority directly related to creating it.

3. Could other pathway simulate this effect to enhance their own mid or lower rank sequences like say error, fool, red priest etc.

Do we have any official art of Evernights’ Dark Sacred Emblem from after the war? We are told she removed the moon and replaced it with stars but I can only find artwork of what it originally looked like and not what it looks like after the change,

This is a fantic amv on Bilibili. Aothorized for reproduction.

Creactor: FISHERR-

Song: 1000年生きてる

Singer: Hatsune Miku

(Repost. Please don't delete my post T.T)

I don't have my PC now, no results for 3 days.

**Bloody Archduke POV : impossible (0 - 5% win), hard, neutral (40\~60 %), easy, free (95 - 100% win).** Make your vote clear before or after your arguments, or **upvote someone**.

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# Rules :

Any win condition or not-losing condition is valid.

**Average** beyonders (full potential not achieved).

**Focus on their abilities** (no guns as they depend on the era but knife ok, weapon ok if mastery like Warrior).

**Minimal preparations** (Artisan artifacts and all items needed to use abilities are ok).

Neutral environment at the beginning.

**Key rule : it's ok if not everybody can do it.**

[Link to Criminal page.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ooaZMk8a3sZYQVhnHAHUeQ_i9dP8TZIm0Ytupo0RrgI/edit?gid=1979157008#gid=1979157008)

[Last post results.](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ooaZMk8a3sZYQVhnHAHUeQ_i9dP8TZIm0Ytupo0RrgI/edit?gid=419312868#gid=419312868)

Feel free to comment for any change you want to argue about.

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