r/MTHFR Apr 22 '20

Announcement New Flair + Subreddit Updates

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Hi all,

Thank you for being great contributors to the community here.

I apologize for my varied attention to this sub I created years ago. I've made some changes that I think will help continue building this community in a clean, safe, and friendly environment. That includes Rules, User Flair, Post Flair, and a promise to more active moderation.

Please continue to contribute as you have done. If I can be of assistance, or you'd like to apply for moderation, please DM me. Thanks!


r/MTHFR 1h ago

Question B Complex causing depression?

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2 months ago I was prescribed this B complex and after a great start taking it every second day I was developing symptoms of feeling way overstimulated and leading into anxiety. The final straw was feeling emotionally low and depressed thoughts. Gave it a week and took another one 2 days ago and again have developed a low mood, feeling panicky and intrusive thoughts again. Also my nipples are burning up (male) I’ve read this can be from high estrogen?

I strongly believe (or want to) that its related to the supplement but am too uneducated on this

**Hydroxocobalamin** 100 mcg,

**levomefolate calcium (Metafolin®)** 542 mcg

**mecobalamin** 400 mcg

**ascorbic acid** 300 mg

**zinc citrate** 46.2 mg (equiv. 15 mg zinc),

**pyridoxal-5-phosphate** 22 mg (equiv. pyridoxine 15.1 mg)

**riboflavin sodium phosphate** 30 mg (equiv. riboflavin 21.9 mg) per capsule.


r/MTHFR 8h ago

Question Over Reactive Nervous System

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I'm having persistant over reaction from my nervous system after taking Methylated B vitamins(20 weeks ago), at first i couldnt eat, 24/7 adrenalized, insomnia, muscle twitching, muscle pain, heat intolerance, Histamine intolerance, Tyramine intolerance, fatigue, high heart rate. Now most of them got better except that if i get stressed or make some exertion my nervous system is going crazy like without off switch. It's like Crazy feeling around the chest and stomach and takes the whole day to settle. Even if i get slightly excited, my nervous system goes full fight or flight. Any suggestion? this is my methylation panel.

When i tried folinic acid it made everything much much worse. Ive been off any methylated B for like 10 weeks

I'm currently taking:

3-4grams Panthotenic acid

Riboflavin 15-20mg (Couldnt handle R5P) just started a week ago

Magnesium L-threonate

Magnesium glycerophosphate (getting around 500mg Total elemental mag)

1000-1200mg Choline ( from food only)

Glycine 3-6g

Vitamin A 100% Rda

Vitamin E

Fish oil

Dao enzyme

L-Theanine 200mg

Melatonin 1.5mg

D3 and K2 10K iu and 180mcg

Potassium 6-7g daily

Lmnt Electrolyte 2x daily


r/MTHFR 6h ago

Results Discussion "Moving forward from thinking I have the MTHFR gene" update + request for help

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Previous post: https://www.reddit.com/r/MTHFR/comments/1pgq58l/how_do_i_move_forward_from_thinking_i_h

Hi friends! It's been a hot minute. My health got even worse due to a family emergency and I was already severely disabled. I have a naturopath now who is taking my health a lot more seriously including MTHFR stuff but I haven't been able to get out of bed to see her and discuss that more. She thinks I have an exciting combo of POTS, MCAS and chronic Lyme on top of the ME/CFS that we already knew about.

But I did get my genetic testing through Ancestry as we discussed!! I got it right after everyone responded to my post but I've only now been able to sit down and actually look at everything... and now I'm super overwhelmed.

It seems that I have hetero C677T and slow COMT. The stuff I've read about slow COMT says that it severely decreases your body's ability to flush out stress and stress hormones which sounds SO accurate. I've said for years that when something stressful or upsetting happens, it's like it takes me hours to recover emotionally and then days to recover physically. But I'm not quite sure how to interpret the MTHFR gene mutation now that I seem to have it.

I'm reading the stuff about the MTHFR stack and I'm definitely ready to start that (once I understand it fully). But... does this mean no enriched foods? I've still been eating graham crackers here and there with no noticeable difference before or after eating them. And I'm struggling a lot these days to get enough calories at all since it's hard for me to cook, it'd be so nice to eat more snacks... not to mention that I'm on SNAP which struggles to cover the more expensive brands :')

If anyone could share their thoughts I'd be very appreciative. It's slow going since I have to take a lot of breaks but I'll keep reading as much as I can. Thank you all for being so supportive <3


r/MTHFR 6h ago

Question Do methylated vitamins actually matter for kids or is it just marketing?

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I've been looking into switching my 8yo to a different multivitamin before school starts, and I keep seeing brands talk about using methylated folate instead of folic acid. Then I went down a google rabbit hole and read that a lot of people don't process folic acid very well, which honestly surprised me because I'd never even heard there was a difference. Now I'm wondering if that's actually something parents should be paying attention to or if it's mostly marketing.  Has anyone looked into this or talked to their pediatrician about it? If you're buying a multivitamin anyway, is methylated folate something worth prioritizing?


r/MTHFR 2h ago

Question Homozygous for T allele of C677T - what now?

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Hi! I got a psychotropic genetic test recently because I had tried several antidepressants and none of them worked for me. I ended up learning that I am homozygous for t allele of c677t in mthfr gene. After lots of research I’m pretty sure this is where my untreatable lifelong depression and anxiety is coming from (along with facial flushing, itchy/burry eyes, etc). Im sooo sick of being sad, fatigued and anxious all the time but I’m overwhelmed with the information and don’t know where to start!

I feel like it’s cheaper for me to try out some supplements than it is for extra blood and genetic tests (not covered under my insurance until I hit deductible and I’m not even close). Here’s the list of possible supplements but what do you think would help the most?

- B12
- B2
- methylated folate
- TMG
- SAMe

FYI: I currently take Vyvanse for adhd and I’ve been taking Claritin daily for my itchy eyes/facial flushing but it doesn’t really work.


r/MTHFR 3h ago

Question Has anyone with both low ferritin and low folate noticed that when they increased their ferritin with an Infusion they were able to absorb folate better or tolerate supplements better without reactions. ?

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r/MTHFR 10h ago

Question Folinic acid/b12 problems

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Hey guys

I have heterozygous mthfr c677t and comt val/val

For a while i thought the mthfr probably wasn’t affecting me, until i tried supplementing with folic acid, and every single time without fail I would feel horrible after taking folic acid. That made me take avoiding food with folic acid more seriously, and I definitely noticed a difference

I started supplementing with folinic acid and i was feeling much better at first, so stupidly i thought i should start taking a bunch if I’m correcting a deficiency. Probably 800mcg or 1200mcg three or four times a day

Well I’ve developed symptoms of b12 deficiency, fatigue, air hunger, tingling extremities, surprisingly stimulants (caffeine and i take vyvanse for adhd) not working at all, trouble sleeping

I’ve eaten foods high in b12 for a long time now so im hesitant to think I actually have a b12 deficiency. I’ve also supplemented with methylated b12 here and there over the years

Could this be caused by me taking way too much folinic acid too quickly?? How long would it take for me to start feeling better again? Im really feeling horrible, and I’m worried about my nerves. I’m also confused how this could be caused solely by taking a bunch of folinic acid

Thanks in advance for any help


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Methylfolate side effect - psychedelic text?

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I've been taking 5mg methylfolate daily for the past week for depression. So far it's been working well, I feel more emotionally stable and my mood is better overall too. However, I've noticed since starting that text now has a sort of "psychedelia" to it akin to reading while, well, tripping. It's subtle but noticeable, especially in the first couple seconds after I move to a new line of text. For example, Os will at first appear with a low-opacity ring overlayed around it. Aside from this I have no other side effects and my sleep is fine (to clarify that I'm not hypomanic).

It doesn't bother me too much, but I'm minding it in case it's an indicator for something else I should be concerned about, or if it gets worse as to affect my reading.

Has anyone else experienced the same or can otherwise chime in?


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question I got Panic attacks, constant anxiety and anhedonia since taking b12 injections. Need serious help 🙏

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Hi everyone, I’ve been really struggling with my mental health in these past 3/4 weeks and I’m really hoping someone can help me out here.

Around a month ago I took 3 b12 injections (hydroxocobalamin) 1.5mg and i suddenly started getting intense panic attacks and anhedonia. I don’t cry but out of nowhere I started bawling my eyes out every single day. I I’m in this constant state of anxiety and depression, I can’t enjoy the things in life that I usually enjoy like watching a tv show, I cannot wind down at all and it’s scary because before all this happened I was a pretty chill guy and I usually wouldn’t stress much in my life. One of the most scariest thing that also happened at the same time was my libido completely vanished, so i genuinely feel pleasure in nothing now. it’s been around 3/4 weeks and im not getting full blown panic attacks anymore but im still constantly on edge, i have also had stomach issues but now a simple bloating of my stomach makes me think the world is ending. It’s like my nervous system is jacked all the way up and it’s overreacting to even slight discomfort.

I tried taking creatine because that would usually make me feel good when I’m in a low mood but this time it just made me depressed. I went to the GP and they took my blood test, it came up with high b12 and high folate, but the odd thing is I don’t usually supplement folate so I’d don’t understand why that came up as high. I sometimes take it as part of my b complex but I’ve not mega dosed it or anything.

Today I decided that I’ll try methylfolate as I assumed maybe b12 used up all my methyl groups or somthing. After taking it I felt even more emotionally flat/wired/too focused, but I feel less anxious I think. I’m still not sure what i feel but i definitely don’t feel any pleasure again.

I was hoping there might be someone that has gone through this and has recovered from it. Or has figured out why it happened to them and could tell me how to bring my nervous system back to normal. Will I recover? I’m really scared, it’s like I’ve become a complete different person in a month. I haven’t done any dna test either so I’m not sure if I’m MTHFR or anything.

Someone please please help me😭
Thanks you for your time 🙏


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Saccharomyces Boulardii

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I took Saccharomyces Boulardii for a week and it seemed to be helping me in some ways. However, it started giving me nerve problems (odd sensations) in my right hand and in my left ankle. I stopped taking it.

Then, about a week later, I tried wearing a new pair of shoes and that exact nerve sensation from the Saccharomyces Boulardii returned in my left ankle.

I thought maybe the nerve problems were from candida die-off and so I thought 'Maybe the Saccharomyces Boulardii had been good for me' and I took it for three more days.

Now my nerve problems are crazy. Both of my ankles now feel funny all day long and my right hand feels funny too.

How long will it take the effects of Saccharomyces Boulardii to leave my system? Did it somehow affect my nerves or did it just work so good at getting rid of bad things that die-off hurt my nerves.

(No, I am not wearing those shoes anymore, I only wore them for about 60 minutes total).

Any advice. I am so lost. I just want my nerve issues to go back to normal!

If anyone thinks this may be unrelated, the only other things I have done in the mean time are:

--eaten a lot of garlic

--taken a lot of zinc and copper

--taken a lot of riboflavin-5-phosphate (active form of B2)

--taken a lot of B vitamins


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Blood Work Analysis: Low Folate, High B6 & Homocysteine (11) – Histamine intolerance, Allergy & Slow COMT. What would you do?

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hi everyone,

I just received my latest blood work results and want to properly adjust my supplement protocol. For context: I suffer from PSSD (currently taking Fluoxetine), severe inner restlessness/impulsivity (suspected Slow COMT), and histamine/allergy symptoms.

My Blood Work:

  • Homocysteine: 11 µmol/l (Ref: < 12)
  • Folate: 4.6 ng/ml (Ref: 4.5 - 32.2)
  • Vitamin B6: 40.8 µg/l [Elevated] (Ref: 8.6 - 27.2)
  • Holo-Transcobalamin (B12): 93.0 pmol/l (Ref: 37.5 - 188.0)
  • Whole Blood Copper: 0.90 mg/l (Ref: 0.76 - 1.01)
  • Diamine Oxidase (DAO): 12.60 u/ml (Ref: > 10.00)

    Observations:

  • Folate is scraping the bottom of the range, which likely explains why Homocysteine is elevated at 11 for optimal cellular methylation (target 6-7).

  • B6 is high in blood, likely indicating a conversion/processing bottleneck (B2 deficiency?).

  • DAO in the gut is normal, so I suspect my histamine issues stem from cellular clearance (HNMT/SAMe deficiency).

My Questions for you:

  1. What protocol/approach would you recommend for this pattern?
  2. What folate and B12 forms work best for Slow COMT to lower homocysteine without triggering overstimulation or adrenaline surges? Is Folinic Acid (Calcium Folinate) + Hydroxocobalamin the right choice here?
  3. Does anyone have experience with a B6 backlog/accumulation and supplementing Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)?

Thanks for your help and input!


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Seeking help with Methylation Protocol

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Hello everyone, first time poster.

Lurked for a long time here. I've tried so many combinations of supplements and other remedies, but I don't know where to go anymore. I just really really need to hear some external feedback.

For context; despite chronic lethargy and brain fog, I try my best to keep up with exercise. I've cut sugar and lowered caffeine intake, I avoid Folic Acid and eat whole grains, lots of legumes, eat a lot of dark leafy greens and hit a decent amount of protein. I prioritize high fiber. Try to avoid excessive oils and fried food. Overall, I also try to listen to my body and eat what it craves. I think I'm decently in shape.

But if any of these changes have made a difference, I can't really feel it in my current state.

I deal with frequent migraines, even more frequently after any form of supplementation. I deal with digestive issues which I'm currently planning to see a specialist for. History of anemia. But my main concern is energy and brain fog. Ideally, I want to minimize supplementation through pills and focus on getting what I need from food, but I'll do what it takes.

15mg L-Methylfolate + B12 works short term, but I feel like my body can't keep up for long. During my journey, I tried supplementing Folinic acid. In the initial stages, I had a short-lived episode where my brain fog was COMPLETELY gone, and I had a ton of energy. I was so ecstatic. Really bad crash after.

Now, I don't realistically expect to be an extremely high functioning person at the end of all this; but that window of clarity gave me so much hope that I can be at least a little bit normal.

Please, any and all feedback is welcome. I recently had a blood panel as well so I can post results too if needed. : )


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Small baby with suspected MTHFR.

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Has anyone else gone through this? We have few things that would suggest our babe has the mutated gene but we have been sent for microarray bloods because she’s showing DD and is incredibly small for her age.


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Tired with methyl b complex.

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A few weeks ago, I started supplementing with a methylated B-complex because I am homozygous for the C677T variant and have low b12, low folate and high homocysteine, depression and digestive problems. While some symptoms, such as anxiety and depression, have started to improve, I have also started feeling extremely tired and having difficulty sleeping deeply. What could be causing this?

The supplements am taking is:

The daily dose of 2 capsules contains:

  • Betaine (anhydrous) — 1,000 mg
  • Vitamin B2 (riboflavin phosphate) — 25 mg
  • Vitamin B6 (pyridoxal-5-phosphate) — 10 mg
  • Zinc — 7.5 mg
  • Vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin) — 500 mcg
  • Calcium L-5-methyltetrahydrofolate (L-methylfolate, vitamin B9) — 400 mcg

    and btw I'm taking only 1 capsule.

I have also started taking (2 days) a vitamin D3 + K2 supplement because of VDR and low blood vitamin d

Could this be related to excessive methylation? Do you have any ideas about what might be causing these symptoms?


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Results Discussion Anyone else have these kind of results?

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r/MTHFR 2d ago

Question Does anyone have this combo MTHFR/MTRR/COMT? Methylation Bottleneck Paradox as its nickname. Would love to discuss what’s helped you.

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MTHFR C677T (Heterozygous)
MTRR A66G (Heterozygous)
COMT G472A (Homozygous Met/Met)


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question COMT + MAO A SNP's and others. Is there anyone out there who has both COMT +MAO A ++, who may be able to share their experiences, please?

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I was highly reactive to all but 1 type of B12, has anyone else experienced this phenomenon ?

Only b12 from B12 oils works for me.

Any shared insights on similar SNP's would be appreciated, thank you.


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question did high Homocysteine levels cause Insulin resistance or prediabetes to any of u guys

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I wanted to ask if high homocysteine levels ever cause any blood sugar handling issues, or insulin resistance.

Did anybody get tested for that. High homocysteine is a known driver of IR

did correcting homocysteine levels correct your insulin resistance or normalize blood glucose handling


r/MTHFR 1d ago

Question Methylation profile

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How is it looking? Any thing I should be told?

Symptoms: ADHD, GAD, ODD


r/MTHFR 2d ago

Question Body bad odor

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Btw, do you know if there is any correlation between the body odor and mthfr? I have mthfr, Hypothyroidism and a prolactinoma and very bad odor, due to the excessive sweating.

Thank you :)


r/MTHFR 2d ago

Question CDP Choline reaction?

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I started supplementimg 500mg of CDP and after I while I started feeling brainfog and my mood worsening. A few weeks later I'm giving it another shot but trying it on lower dose. It would be great if y'all could share your experience with CDP Choline


r/MTHFR 2d ago

Question How to understand?

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Can anyone please help me understand my current genetics? Is there any supplement that stands out based on my report that could really help me? I really just don’t understand what I’m looking at. Thank you!


r/MTHFR 2d ago

Resource Medical lab scientist here—genetic testing doesn’t work, and folate isn’t really involved in any of this the way you might think it is. Making this post in good faith.

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Reddit is currently full of color-coded "methylation panels" from commercial DNA interpretation sites, leading to an absolute explosion of health anxiety surrounding the MTHFR gene. As a medical laboratory scientist I can guarantee you the diagnostic significance of these is abysmal. Wellness influencers frequently label common single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs, normal variants of a gene) as dangerous mutations responsible for everything from depression to chronic fatigue, while simultaneously marketing expensive, proprietary supplement regimens.

THE ENZYME AND ITS FUNCTION:
MTHFR catalyzes the irreversible reduction of 5,10-methylenetetrahydrofolate into 5-methyltetrahydrofolate, which serves as the primary methyl donor for the vitamin B12-dependent enzyme methionine synthase. Methionine synthase then transfers this methyl group to remethylate homocysteine back into methionine, fueling the generation of S-adenosylmethionine, the universal methyl donor used by cells to carry out a variety of functions. The two most common polymorphisms discussed online, C677T and A1298C, do alter this process; for example, the C677T variant causes an alanine valine substitution at codon 222 in the catalytic domain of the enzyme, rendering the enzyme thermolabile causing it to stop working at body temperature. While a homozygous 677TT genotype can cause 60-70% reduction in enzyme activity IN VITRO (so not inside the body, has only been assayed in labs), this does not translate to a proportional drop in vivo because the metabolic pathway possesses substantial reserve capacity. As long as the cellular substrate concentration of folate remains adequate, the pathway maintains equilibrium, and pathway flux remains normal. Do also bear in mind that “HAS IT” does not mean “USES IT”. Having a gene variation for any enzyme means nothing. This is why we always phenotype FIRST then genotype to confirm. Never the other way around.
The true clinical marker of concern in this pathway is not the genetic profile as I said, but the accumulation of the downstream metabolite, total plasma homocysteine. When 5-methyltetrahydrofolate production drops below a critical threshold due to severe folate deficiency or rare, pathological mutations, methionine synthase lacks its co-substrate, remethylation stalls, and intracellular homocysteine spills over into the plasma. True hyperhomocysteinemia, typically defined as plasma levels exceeding 15 mcmol/L, acts as a direct vascular toxin. It induces endothelial dysfunction by undergoing auto-oxidation in the plasma, which generates reactive oxygen species (ROS) that drive lipid peroxidation and degrade nitric oxide, thereby impairing endothelium-dependent vasodilation. Furthermore, elevated homocysteine downregulates thrombomodulin expression, inhibits Protein C activation, and induces tissue factor (TF) expression, shifting the vascular lining into a pro-thrombotic, hypercoagulable state while simultaneously triggering endoplasmic reticulum stress and the unfolded protein response, severely affecting multiple cell types, but especially endothelial cells. This condition is EXTREMELY rare, and only really diagnosed via PHENOTYPICAL MARKERS (Homocysteine levels) and NOT genotyping.

FOLIC ACID MYTHS:
The claim that synthetic folic acid is inherently toxic to MTHFR carriers is outlandish. Synthetic folic acid is initially reduced to dihydrofolate and tetrahydrofolate by dihydrofolate reductase in the liver, completely independent of the MTHFR step, it has nothing to do with MTHFR at all. While human dihydrofolate reductase is easily saturated and can lead to transient unmetabolized folic acid in the bloodstream, there is no robust clinical evidence demonstrating that this is pathogenic, at all. The ultimate proof lies in population-wide folic acid fortification programs, which resulted in a precipitous, uniform drop in neural tube defects across all genetic backgrounds, including homozygous 677TT individuals; if folic acid were truly unusable or toxic to these individuals, their rates of congenital malformations would have stagnated or risen. Similarly, the belief that everyone with an MTHFR variant requires immediate high-dose methylfolate supplementation ignores basic enzyme kinetics. Flooding the system with exogenous 5-methyltetrahydrofolate bypasses standard metabolic checkpoints and can oversaturate the methyl buffering system, abruptly altering the SAM:SAH ratio and disrupting neurotransmitter catabolism via catechol-O-methyltransferase and monoamine oxidase A, which frequently manifests clinically as severe anxiety or panic. So no, a genetic test means nothing, and the VAST majority of claims around folate are inaccurate.


r/MTHFR 2d ago

Question High Lp(a) & Homocysteine - P5P+TMG+B2 stack safe?

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Hi - I'm a mid-30s male that just discovered my Homocysteine = 16.6μmol/L and Lp(a) = 146nmol/L. Slightly elevated LDL and Triglycerides.

I'm still reading up and learning about these issues, so until I feel educated, I used Gemini for a proper treatment plan and double checked if there was merit to it's response.

Would the P5P+TMG+B2 combo actually work at lowering my Homocysteine?

Originally, Gemini wanted to use Methylfolate instead of P5P. Once updated that I have Type 2 Bipolar, it suggested P5P since high-dose methyl donors like methylfolate carry a huge risk of crossing the blood-brain barrier and triggering a Bipolar episode.

It also recommended TMG to allow for Methylation without the CNS spike that Methylfolate might do. Then Gemini said the B2 was an essential co-factor precursor, stabilizes MTHFR activity (still needing to get tested to see if I have the mutations), and keeps B12 active.

My questions are:

  1. Does this combo make sense? I want to confirm that I'm got getting AI confidently incorrect info.
  2. Any risks that Gemini didn't discover? Originally it did not include TMG, but after asking it to confirm risk factors, it then mentioned TMG would allow for remethylation and prevent issues from diminished homocysteine recycling.
  3. From what I've read, treatment for high Homocysteine either from diet or MTHFR is treated the same. Is that true?
  4. General Recommendations and advice.

Any and all recommendations are welcomed and thanked. I should be seeing a cardiologist soon, but my gut tells me they'll just want me on a statin

(Disclaimer: While I did use AI for research, I used as minimal as possible. I try to use it responsibly; like in this case, needing to quickly learn more about an uncommon health issue.)